Robbie Khan Reviews Posted May 30, 2012 Reviews Share Posted May 30, 2012 UPDATE: 2012.08.07: S3 Power Bank review added to post #74 Following on from my popular S2 review I thought I'd post an S3 review, I'll be actively updating this as always but to note, my Pebble Blue S3 isn't due until the 13th June due to that manufacturing delay that you guys will have read all about so my intiial review and impressions are on the Marble White version belonging to my dad which landed today. I will be comparing most things with the S2 (naturally) but I won't do a comparison on daily usage differences until I've had my own S3 a full working week so will only cover things that are immediately obvious and comparable. Firstly, let's get the bad stuff out the way. 1: You cannot change brightness by sliding the notification bar like on the S2. This is rather lame and I can't wait to root my handset and get a custom ROM with that feature baked in. 2: Auto brightness is rather conservative compared to the S2. Even in normal lighting the brightness is a bit low. 2b: This part would not bother me as I adjust brightness via sliding the bar up top but since auto brightness isn't as aggressive as I'd prefer, custom ROM is the way to go (for me). 3: The Galaxy S2 MHL cable does not work on this. I tried multiple chargers, the S3 charger outputs 1amp vs 750mA of the S2 and even that didn't work. Looks like MHL dongle owners of the S2 will want to sell up and upgrade to the S3 one. 4: Using the "antishake" mode in the camcorder causes the video to zoom in slightly regardless of video resolution used. - I understand why this is now, just a slight annoyance that it has to be this way as I'm used to IS on my DSLR but of course it's not possible to bung gyros into a phone sized shell. Or practical for that matter :p 5: The LED and button backlights do bleed through the white chassis surround, the same is visible on the white S2. 6: The music volume via headphones at max level 15 isn't as loud as 15 on the S2 by a value of about 1. 7: There is a wake delay of about 1 second from when the screen is off and the phone in deep sleep, just like on the S2. Some people dislike this while others don't care either way. I'm in the latter group. 8: The home button delay is there too, just like on the S2. This I didn't expect to go because it's by design. The delay is to allow the home button to be double pressed for waking up S-Voice. 9: You can't long press the notification toggles to access settings for those toggles. You couldn't do this on the S2 either but custom ROMs and themes allowed for this. Since Samsung adopted a lot of tweaks from S2 custom ROMs I would have expected them to adopt this too as it gives quicker access to settings for specific things instead of having to go through the main Settings menu each time. 10: On my dad's handset the screen had a redder tint compared to my S2. Now here's the thing, I think this is the S2 panel lottery scenario at play here again. Some screens have varying amounts of tint toward a certain colour compared to other handsets. My dad's S2 has a screen that's more blue than mine, for example whereas mine is closer to natural daylight white (6500K). I reckon the S3 is going to be exactly the same here. Without putting phones side by side you'd never tell the difference though unless you're used to using a certain colour tone on a screen for years on end or something I guess. I'll be able to confirm this theory once I put his S3 next to mine later this month. Now the good stuff. 1: Camcorder exceeds expectations in all but one area, the microphone. The S2 microphones pick up more bass than the S3 one does recording video. I suspect this is a media profile setting that can easily be modded on a custom ROM because this was certainly the case on the S2 before ICS rolled out which improved sound recording quality in the camcorder. 1b: Camcorder has manual touch focus which works very well: 2: Camera HDR mode works well too: No HDR: HDR: 3: Wireless performance is sublime. On my S2 connected at 65Mbps I can FTP files to and from the phone at 2-3MB/s (write) and 3-4MB/s (read). This is on the 2.5GHz band as the 5GHz band is not fully supported. On the S3 I was connected at 150Mbps and got: Write: Read: 4: S-Voice seems to work well and really quick although I suspect that's in part to my fast broadband connection :p I have a very British accent and had no trouble giving it commands and getting the correct results. Works better than Siri in this regard and a heck of a lot better than the voice commander on the S2. 5: The speaker is about similar to the S2 I found. Maybe a bit louder actually but I haven't looked deep into this as I find the S2 one perfectly fine anyway. 6: The Wolfson sound chip is quite good. I tested this hotswapping both headphones (Sennheiser HD595 and Phonak Aud?o PFE102) and chose to play some Flight Of The Conchords songs, specifically the Mutha'uckas track as it has some excellent guitar string starting off with a nice bass segment and then vocals. On the S2 the bass is a bit louder, more boomiy I'd say, whereas on the S3 the sound was more relaxed and spacious and because of that I was able to pick out the instruments in the background better as well. Using the stock headphones or any normal pair of highstreet cans (lol Dr Dre Beats) people may not tell much difference really. Bottom line? Invest in good headphones! 7: Everything is smooth (already mentioned by others). 8: The screen is much nicer coming from the S2 (apart from the redder colour as mentioned earlier). It's got more onscreen when browsing and text is easily readable. I noticed no pixel issues from Pentile. 9: USB transfer seems blindingly quick. It's using MTP so Windows doesn't display the transfer speeds over that connection but all the camcorder videos I recorded and transferred to my PC seemed to transfer way quicker than they do on my S2 over the same connection. 10: Galaxy S2 owners who bought the Zenis desktop cradle are going to love this, the S3 is a perfect fit. Just use the rubber seat if you don't use a case on the S3 and remove it if you do. I don't know what 3rd party cases will work on this dock though but without the seat there's a few mm room to work with so all mesh case style cases I'd imagine will be just fine here. With the rubber seat attached, there is no sideways movement, it fits perfectly. you do need to use two hands to undock the phone though. Pics of Zenis dock on are at the end of this post. You can buy the Zenis dock on eBay for about ?10 now you lucky buggers, I paid about ?31 for mine when I got the S2! I have the black dock but my dad has the white one so he's chuffed to bits when I showed him this. 11: The material of the casing and general feel of the phone is excellent. feels as solid as the One X does but is a lot more comfortable to hold and to use, more than the S2 as well. The back panel does attract more finger prints than the screen though. 12: Even though the screen is quite a bit larger than the S2, the S3 doesn't feel much bigger than the S2 at all, it feels smaller in fact due to the thinner profile. It's a bit taller but barely much wider. 13: The front of the S3 screen edge is bevelled and there are no areas that dust can collect like on the S2. Excellent! 14: Too early to comment on battery life but at 50% ish brightness I started using it at 88% and the battery dropped to 83% after a few hours of usage and testing. That's a lot better than my S2 using the extended 2000mAh battery. That's about it for now and I think I have covered all the things that have yet to be covered in any online review but if anyone wants me to do any specific tests and whatnot then I'd be happy to comply. I'll leave these pics right here... I look forward to my blue S3, and then rooting it... :p UPDATE 2012.06.02 - Zenis dock with S3 attached to a case: The first half was recorded using the S3 @ 720p, I've noticed that 720p mode is worse than the S2 in 720p but 1080p is way better. Shame the video sound isn't as good as the S2 though but I'll be looking for a custom ROM update that ups the microphone gain and bitrate for camcorder audio in due time on my blue S3. UPDATE 2012.06.08 - Comparison of my Pebble Blue and Marble White. Now to end all questions regarding colours and shades :p Yes, the home button on the blue is definitely blue/purple compared to the darker, almost black/brushed look in dim lighting whereas in normal or daylight it looks a pale shade of dark grey/black with a hint of blue under the glaze. Both white and blue do have a different shade from an extreme angle from either side. The white is less obvious of course. I reckon this new blue is more of a tonic/metallic blue as opposed to the pebble blue which was definitely more purple/lighter blue. I've applied the screen protector which came free with the Rock case and managed to get one or two air bubbles and it doesn't cover the entire front, there's 1mm or so margin around the edge, basically where the rounded bevel starts on the glass. So be wary when buying cheaper screen protectors. The Zagg Invisible Shield covers the entire glass area nicely. I'll post battery rundown thoughts from using my own phone, the white one is my dad's and he's a bit random as to usage :p Give me the weekend! UPDATE 2012.06.09 - C-Pen Stylus review I also received the - Samsung Galaxy SIII stylus (C-Pen) and here are my thoughts on it having used it in S-memo and Draw Something among other things. In S-Memo, the ability to change brush sizes and brush types makes the C-Pen quite useful for drawing and colouring but it's not as smooth or as fine tipped as the Galaxy note's S-Pen. It's capacitive of course and not pressure sensitive like the S-Pen. I wonder if the S-Pen will work on the S3, if not out the box then perhaps via a custom ROM... Anyway, in Draw Something I found using my fingers was actually better due to the limited brush options available in the game. I found that drawing circles ended up a funny shape towards the end as the capacitive tip was too fat to be used as a fine liner or for detailed work in this kind of game. All in all, I'd say it's a cool looking accessory and has its uses but apps need to add support for it with plenty of brush options otherwise you're better off using your finger, at least in Draw Something...for now :) Vice, Open Minded, deactivated170812 and 3 others 6 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1080657-samsung-galaxy-s3-gti9300/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Open Minded Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 I enjoyed reading your review! Thanks for doing this. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1080657-samsung-galaxy-s3-gti9300/#findComment-594897629 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbie Khan Reviews Posted May 30, 2012 Author Reviews Share Posted May 30, 2012 No worries! As I said, I'll be happy to do any tests or answer questions from those interested in knowing about specifics, otherwise my next update will be when my blue handset arrives! Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1080657-samsung-galaxy-s3-gti9300/#findComment-594897641 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vice Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 Great review as always :) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1080657-samsung-galaxy-s3-gti9300/#findComment-594897663 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Open Minded Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 I've been up for a contract renewal for about a month now and it's hard not to upgrade from a Captivate when you see the GSG2 Skyrocket going on sale for 50 dollars. I'm using all my willpower to hold off until Samsung or AT&T announces the specs for the North American version of the SGS3. That way I can see if it's going to be worth paying full price (w/2 yr contract) or get a phone that's on sale. Do you think it's worth getting the SGS3 if someone already has the SGS2? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1080657-samsung-galaxy-s3-gti9300/#findComment-594897679 Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Neo Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 Could you add a pic from above so we can clearly see the difference in dimensions between the II and III? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1080657-samsung-galaxy-s3-gti9300/#findComment-594897707 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbie Khan Reviews Posted May 30, 2012 Author Reviews Share Posted May 30, 2012 You guys in the States will get the dual core LTE version too so I'll be looking forward to reading how you all find the performance and things on that! Do you think it's worth getting the SGS3 if someone already has the SGS2? If you're longing for better battery performance, better WiFi for true wireless file send/receive and a much nicer screen as well as the performance enhancements then I'd say yes! But if you're going above your initial budget by doing so then I'd say wait a month or two because the prices will no doubt come down. If you can pick up a new S2 for really cheap then it's still a brilliant phone and will remain as such for a while yet :) Could you add a pic from above so we can clearly see the difference in dimensions between the II and III? Sure thing, I will shoot a pic a bit later on tonight as we have a L4D2 game scheduled shortly! Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1080657-samsung-galaxy-s3-gti9300/#findComment-594897739 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ci7 Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 Do you think it's worth getting the SGS3 if someone already has the SGS2? if you got the money to blow sure. then again i only had mine for less then 6 months (nov '11) intended to keep it for two years Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1080657-samsung-galaxy-s3-gti9300/#findComment-594897777 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbie Khan Reviews Posted May 30, 2012 Author Reviews Share Posted May 30, 2012 PIc of S2 and S3 head on as requested: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1080657-samsung-galaxy-s3-gti9300/#findComment-594897851 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Open Minded Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 if you got the money to blow sure. then again i only had mine for less then 6 months (nov '11) intended to keep it for two years It's not that I can't afford one, I just can't see spending 200-250 dollars on a phone when a really nice upgrade would be around 50 dollars. A dual core and a flash on the camera would be nice, but I don't game on my phone so it's not like I need tons of processing power. On the other hand, I went with the 2600k because I wanted the best quad core for my computer. I was willing to spend the money on that chip and many here would argue it's not worth it. It's all relative, I guess. I am just trying to get an idea if it's going to be worth waiting for AND spending more, or just spending less now and getting a really nice phone with tons of dev support. :) Jose_49 1 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1080657-samsung-galaxy-s3-gti9300/#findComment-594897887 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger H. Veteran Posted May 31, 2012 Veteran Share Posted May 31, 2012 Thanks for the S2 on top of S3 picture as I kept trying to find one showing how much bigger the S3 is. Doesn't look like it's any wider (good) but just a "touch" longer which is also not so bad. Still gotta hold it though first but starting to want it more and more now and i'd probably get the International version again, screw "North American" versions and LTE - HSPA+ and WiFi is all I need :) Then again if S4 version end up being better on battery life I might get that one instead just for that reason. Custom ROM will be able to turn OFF the LTE radio or portion as I'll never need/use it. AT&T has it around here but i'm not sure if i'd be allowed to use it since i'm on an MVNO of theirs anyways :) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1080657-samsung-galaxy-s3-gti9300/#findComment-594898309 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ci7 Posted May 31, 2012 Share Posted May 31, 2012 It's not that I can't afford one, I just can't see spending 200-250 dollars on a phone when a really nice upgrade would be around 50 dollars. A dual core and a flash on the camera would be nice, but I don't game on my phone so it's not like I need tons of processing power. On the other hand, I went with the 2600k because I wanted the best quad core for my computer. I was willing to spend the money on that chip and many here would argue it's not worth it. It's all relative, I guess. I am just trying to get an idea if it's going to be worth waiting for AND spending more, or just spending less now and getting a really nice phone with tons of dev support. :) what i mean in other word i think it is worthwhile , and tempting but didn't feel like to burn 500$ too soon :p afik, oft <<< using i7 940 if you don't know , harrrrr track record ;) Thanks for the S2 on top of S3 picture as I kept trying to find one showing how much bigger the S3 is. Doesn't look like it's any wider (good) but just a "touch" longer which is also not so bad. Still gotta hold it though first but starting to want it more and more now and i'd probably get the International version again, screw "North American" versions and LTE - HSPA+ and WiFi is all I need :) Then again if S4 version end up being better on battery life I might get that one instead just for that reason. Custom ROM will be able to turn OFF the LTE radio or portion as I'll never need/use it. AT&T has it around here but i'm not sure if i'd be allowed to use it since i'm on an MVNO of theirs anyways :) huh you can already switch between radio techs ahhhh or maybe it is just Cyanogen and i forgot about samsung toach**** (i learned to hate it :s ) :| ? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1080657-samsung-galaxy-s3-gti9300/#findComment-594898573 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger H. Veteran Posted May 31, 2012 Veteran Share Posted May 31, 2012 I forget which phone it was but I think it was on Verizon but there was no option to turn off LTE. So for people that live in an area without LTE even turned on at all they figured it might be a battery wasting thing to not have. Not sure if there's AT&T LTE here actually now that I think of it. Maybe turned on but not announced yet or something though. Prolly should check in the stores on their LTE devices to see what it says. EDIT - Actually just did a google search and it's the AT&T version of the HTC One X that can't turn off LTE. There's no option in the menu. I'm guessing you can just use the *#*#4636#*#* to do it but most people don't know of that option. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1080657-samsung-galaxy-s3-gti9300/#findComment-594899211 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Audioboxer Subscriber² Posted May 31, 2012 Subscriber² Share Posted May 31, 2012 Thanks for the review. It's a shame how much the design of the S3 sucks (IMO), so I don't really feel 'hard done by' for going with a One X only a month ago. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1080657-samsung-galaxy-s3-gti9300/#findComment-594899223 Share on other sites More sharing options...
simonlang Posted May 31, 2012 Share Posted May 31, 2012 thanks for the good review! i am still not in love with the s3 shape, but it looks much much better here than in pics ive seen before. and its ultra thin :D loving the docking station :) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1080657-samsung-galaxy-s3-gti9300/#findComment-594899517 Share on other sites More sharing options...
freak180 Posted May 31, 2012 Share Posted May 31, 2012 Dude i love all your reviews!! Well done! ..So in the US, we're not going to get quad-core S3? :( Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1080657-samsung-galaxy-s3-gti9300/#findComment-594899575 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoneAvail Posted May 31, 2012 Share Posted May 31, 2012 Wow, I think the S2 looks much more attractive than the S3. It's slick black bar phone and looks calm right before the storm kinda way. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1080657-samsung-galaxy-s3-gti9300/#findComment-594899583 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Open Minded Posted May 31, 2012 Share Posted May 31, 2012 ..So in the US, we're not going to get quad-core S3? :( Nope. Rumor is it's going to be a dual core. I doubt it's even going to be the same shape as the international version. Look at how many models and shapes there were for the original SGS. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1080657-samsung-galaxy-s3-gti9300/#findComment-594899585 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MillionVoltss Posted May 31, 2012 Share Posted May 31, 2012 Nice review, Also glad to see its not considerably larger than the S2. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1080657-samsung-galaxy-s3-gti9300/#findComment-594899617 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+BeLGaRaTh Subscriber¹ Posted May 31, 2012 Subscriber¹ Share Posted May 31, 2012 Is the dock included? I get my S3 tomorrow :) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1080657-samsung-galaxy-s3-gti9300/#findComment-594899701 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbie Khan Reviews Posted May 31, 2012 Author Reviews Share Posted May 31, 2012 Sorry no the dock is the one I bought for my S2, it fits the S3 just fine :) It's ?6.50 on eBay, branded by Zenis. The design of the S3 certainly grows on you though. The White one is not to my taste at all so my full thoughts and comparison will be when the blue one arrives. I'm also getting the wireless HDMI dongle and the C-Pen and Wireless charging pad at some point. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1080657-samsung-galaxy-s3-gti9300/#findComment-594900011 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Open Minded Posted May 31, 2012 Share Posted May 31, 2012 I'm also getting the wireless HDMI dongle and the C-Pen and Wireless charging pad at some point. :woot: Nice. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1080657-samsung-galaxy-s3-gti9300/#findComment-594900031 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbie Khan Reviews Posted May 31, 2012 Author Reviews Share Posted May 31, 2012 I mentioned about the button and led notification bleeding around the front of the phone, here's a picture showing the extend in a dark room. Note: This only affects the white S3, also other brands/models that are white, not just Samsung handsets :) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1080657-samsung-galaxy-s3-gti9300/#findComment-594900609 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lemonbear Posted June 2, 2012 Share Posted June 2, 2012 Great stuff mrk! Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1080657-samsung-galaxy-s3-gti9300/#findComment-594904223 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbie Khan Reviews Posted June 2, 2012 Author Reviews Share Posted June 2, 2012 Updated with video of Zenis dock and official case usage :) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1080657-samsung-galaxy-s3-gti9300/#findComment-594904485 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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