Steven P. Administrators Posted June 20, 2012 Administrators Share Posted June 20, 2012 Well we tried going with a gaming advertiser and that didn't really work out. For May and June the income was less than what a Tier 2 subscription would cost :p So there's currently no point in running ads there at all. Some things to take from this, how quickly NeoGamr loads, is what you get on Neowin from a Tier 2 subscription. Tier 2 subscription does already cover NeoGamr, but you pay for Neowin primarily, so we're not screwing our Tier 2 subscribers here. Traffic to the site is still pretty low, for the last two months it's about 500k unique impressions. I will be looking into serving ads on the site, but only if it's worth it. Additionally, those that use ad blockers, please keep that to yourself, it isn't nice to gloat ;) and here's some proof that we're willing to conceed that showing ads isn't always the smartest option. NeoGamr, can be offset by Neowin for a bit, but as you might agree, we're not making a dime off running that site (and still paying newsposters there). Edit: Forgot to link NeoGamr. -Alex- 1 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1085539-neogamr-ad-free-for-forseeable-future/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick H. Supervisor Posted June 20, 2012 Supervisor Share Posted June 20, 2012 If it's not making any money then I agree, there's not a lot of point in putting the advertising up. One day I'll remember to check out NeoGamr. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1085539-neogamr-ad-free-for-forseeable-future/#findComment-594945137 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vice Posted June 20, 2012 Share Posted June 20, 2012 It surprises me that it isn't viable to put ads on it. I imagined it would get a lot more viewers than it has done. Have you guys considered running Google Ads for NeoGamr? - I don't mean putting Google Ads on the website but placing ads on Google for the site to get gamers to visit it. remixedcat, -Alex- and Steven P. 3 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1085539-neogamr-ad-free-for-forseeable-future/#findComment-594945141 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven P. Administrators Posted June 20, 2012 Author Administrators Share Posted June 20, 2012 It surprises me that it isn't viable to put ads on it. I imagined it would get a lot more viewers than it has done. Have you guys considered running Google Ads for NeoGamr? - I don't mean putting Google Ads on the website but placing ads on Google for the site to get gamers to visit it. Thats a good idea, I'll look into it. -Alex- 1 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1085539-neogamr-ad-free-for-forseeable-future/#findComment-594945143 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bamsebjørn Posted June 20, 2012 Share Posted June 20, 2012 Is this an attempt to get more visitors to Neogamr? It worked... for me at least. :) remixedcat 1 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1085539-neogamr-ad-free-for-forseeable-future/#findComment-594945151 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven P. Administrators Posted June 20, 2012 Author Administrators Share Posted June 20, 2012 Is this an attempt to get more visitors to Neogamr? It worked... for me at least. :) :shiftyninja: -Alex-, remixedcat, Elliot B. and 1 other 4 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1085539-neogamr-ad-free-for-forseeable-future/#findComment-594945163 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveLegg Developer Posted June 20, 2012 Developer Share Posted June 20, 2012 Yay, a great chance to see how fast Ignition actually is, without ads slowing down page load times :p SharpGreen, b10h4z4rd, -Alex- and 1 other 4 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1085539-neogamr-ad-free-for-forseeable-future/#findComment-594945173 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrakeN2k Posted June 20, 2012 Share Posted June 20, 2012 its fast all right :) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1085539-neogamr-ad-free-for-forseeable-future/#findComment-594945225 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fourjays Veteran Posted June 20, 2012 Veteran Share Posted June 20, 2012 I'm not sure if this occurs regularly or not and it is just an observation. This bit of news for example, was published on Neowin but didn't show up at all on Neogamr. On the one hand I understand why it wasn't published on Neogamr (it'd be hidden just as much as news published in the categories were), but not publishing such news on Neogamr devalues it. Why not use it as an opportunity to drive traffic from one site to the other and publish it on Neogamr with the "preview" on Neowin linking straight to the Neogamr article? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1085539-neogamr-ad-free-for-forseeable-future/#findComment-594945283 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Laughing Man Posted June 20, 2012 Share Posted June 20, 2012 I don't thing NeoGamr was advertised enough as it self. To me it suddenly appeared and that was it. The site itself does not need ads, itself is what needs to be advertised. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1085539-neogamr-ad-free-for-forseeable-future/#findComment-594945307 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick H. Supervisor Posted June 20, 2012 Supervisor Share Posted June 20, 2012 I'm not sure if this occurs regularly or not and it is just an observation. This bit of news for example, was published on Neowin but didn't show up at all on Neogamr. On the one hand I understand why it wasn't published on Neogamr (it'd be hidden just as much as news published in the categories were), but not publishing such news on Neogamr devalues it. Why not use it as an opportunity to drive traffic from one site to the other and publish it on Neogamr with the "preview" on Neowin linking straight to the Neogamr article? Personally, while it is a good idea I hope they don't start doing this. It'll be even more news that I will no longer have access to, and it's already frustrating when I see an article appear in the Spy, click it to have a look and get presented with a big sign saying that the workplace has stopped me from viewing that page because it falls in to the "games" category by being on NeoGamr. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1085539-neogamr-ad-free-for-forseeable-future/#findComment-594945309 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+InsaneNutter MVC Posted June 20, 2012 MVC Share Posted June 20, 2012 What I don't understand how you can be making so little with 500k unique impressions? Use Google-ads and you should be making a couple of thousand, easily. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1085539-neogamr-ad-free-for-forseeable-future/#findComment-594945325 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spyder Veteran Posted June 20, 2012 Veteran Share Posted June 20, 2012 Personally, while it is a good idea I hope they don't start doing this. It'll be even more news that I will no longer have access to, and it's already frustrating when I see an article appear in the Spy, click it to have a look and get presented with a big sign saying that the workplace has stopped me from viewing that page because it falls in to the "games" category by being on NeoGamr. I can't view neogamr for the same reason Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1085539-neogamr-ad-free-for-forseeable-future/#findComment-594945327 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scorpus Veteran Posted June 20, 2012 Veteran Share Posted June 20, 2012 Why not use it as an opportunity to drive traffic from one site to the other and publish it on Neogamr with the "preview" on Neowin linking straight to the Neogamr article? A feature like that hasn't been implemented in the backend (yet) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1085539-neogamr-ad-free-for-forseeable-future/#findComment-594945341 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtyLarry Veteran Posted June 20, 2012 Veteran Share Posted June 20, 2012 Odd, my work usually blocks any gaming related websites, but Neogamr still works for me at work. Never thought about the fact it should not work. So is this a bad time to ask for a salary for doing the podcast? :laugh: Just kidding of course. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1085539-neogamr-ad-free-for-forseeable-future/#findComment-594945461 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detection Posted June 20, 2012 Share Posted June 20, 2012 It surprises me that it isn't viable to put ads on it. I imagined it would get a lot more viewers than it has done. Have you guys considered running Google Ads for NeoGamr? - I don't mean putting Google Ads on the website but placing ads on Google for the site to get gamers to visit it. Maybe try get an ad on somewhere like gamespot / steam ? Or a sponsor ad on twit.tv ? (Don't know if thats even plausible / affordable) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1085539-neogamr-ad-free-for-forseeable-future/#findComment-594945495 Share on other sites More sharing options...
game_over Posted June 22, 2012 Share Posted June 22, 2012 I'm going to throw it out there and tell you that the name sucks. I know there is only one letter missing but it looks odd, and doesn't have a good ring to it, the pronunciation is tragic.. The tag line is stupid also 'where unprofessional journalism looks better' works well for Neowin, why not have it gaming related? ...maybe a slight rebrand might help? Personally i would just let it be it's own site. I know a site is all about it's content but giving the site it's own individuality might make it more attractive... Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1085539-neogamr-ad-free-for-forseeable-future/#findComment-594950193 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven P. Administrators Posted June 22, 2012 Author Administrators Share Posted June 22, 2012 The tag line was updated today "NeoGamr - The home of PC gaming" The name was debated before we settled on it, and I pronounce it Neogamer anyway. I'm talking to an advertiser at the moment as well.. whatever we do it will have to be worth it. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1085539-neogamr-ad-free-for-forseeable-future/#findComment-594950289 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Veteran Posted June 22, 2012 Veteran Share Posted June 22, 2012 Damn, work proxy blocks Neogamr :( Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1085539-neogamr-ad-free-for-forseeable-future/#findComment-594951039 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kachan64 Posted June 23, 2012 Share Posted June 23, 2012 The problem lies here. Back then when neogamr attached to neowin, i check gaming news all the time. Now that people don't feel like clicking on any external link other than the navs provided by the site or news links. Well, just my thought... Damn, work proxy blocks Neogamr :( Yep, sooo true. Nothing we can do abt it! Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1085539-neogamr-ad-free-for-forseeable-future/#findComment-594952381 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven P. Administrators Posted June 23, 2012 Author Administrators Share Posted June 23, 2012 We'll be covering console hardware on Neowin, so a bit of gaming news will return to Neowin anyway. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1085539-neogamr-ad-free-for-forseeable-future/#findComment-594952467 Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Alex- Posted June 26, 2012 Share Posted June 26, 2012 Travesty! Neogamr shouldn't only be for PC gaming and console news posted on Neowin... I won't be visiting Neogamr any more if this is the case. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1085539-neogamr-ad-free-for-forseeable-future/#findComment-594959537 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SongHyeonDeok Posted June 26, 2012 Share Posted June 26, 2012 Can't believe you made so little on those ads that filled the sides of the page, I clicked them a few time accidentally lol while trying to scroll down. I think that site should have a different look to Neowin's frontpage too, and have something 'gamey' incorporated into the Neowin logo. What made you guys choose the name 'NeoGamr' btw? I would've gone with NeoGamin personally, Neo-win, Neo-gamin. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1085539-neogamr-ad-free-for-forseeable-future/#findComment-594959557 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger H. Veteran Posted June 26, 2012 Veteran Share Posted June 26, 2012 Definitely fast over there, i have scrolling issues (guessing flash) on Neowin but on Gamr man that thing flies! Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1085539-neogamr-ad-free-for-forseeable-future/#findComment-594959755 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveLegg Developer Posted June 26, 2012 Developer Share Posted June 26, 2012 Definitely fast over there, i have scrolling issues (guessing flash) on Neowin but on Gamr man that thing flies! /me takes a bow. This is why I loved Ignition in the development phase, before we started adding any 3rd party code like ads, fb stuff etc. It's lightning fast when it's just our stuff :) Brandon H 1 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1085539-neogamr-ad-free-for-forseeable-future/#findComment-594959775 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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