+InsaneNutter MVC Posted July 4, 2012 MVC Share Posted July 4, 2012 Has anyone ever seen this before on the BBC.co.uk website? i was reading an article and it had a link down the left hand side to something on Tim Berners Lee, i clicked on it and got: We're sorry but this site is not accessible from the UK as it is part of our international service and is not funded by the licence fee. It is run commercially by BBC Worldwide, a wholly-owned subsidiary of the BBC, the profits made from it go back to BBC programme-makers to help fund great new BBC programmes. You can find out more about BBC Worldwide and its digital activities at www.bbcworldwide.com. Not sure what the point is blocking it in the UK but allowing people outside the UK to freely view it? I would think any profits made from me viewing it would help them regardless of where i am in the world. Link: http://www.bbc.com/f...tim-berners-lee FiB3R 1 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1088769-bbc-international-content-blocked-in-the-uk/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haggis Veteran Posted July 4, 2012 Veteran Share Posted July 4, 2012 its because they don't shaft us enough with **** program that we have to pay for whether we watch them or not they need other ways to do it Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1088769-bbc-international-content-blocked-in-the-uk/#findComment-594978957 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirkburn Posted July 4, 2012 Share Posted July 4, 2012 Oh shut up, Haggis. I see the launch announcement here: http://www.bbc.co.uk...0212future.html - but it doesn't really explain it. I would assume it is a licensing issue of some sort, however. I would be very surprised if it was something they just 'decided' to do. Elliot B. and jamieakers 2 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1088769-bbc-international-content-blocked-in-the-uk/#findComment-594978973 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haggis Veteran Posted July 4, 2012 Veteran Share Posted July 4, 2012 lol BBC broadcast worldwide yet the UK are the only people forced to pay for something whether they use it or not On another note you could use a proxy to bypass it Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1088769-bbc-international-content-blocked-in-the-uk/#findComment-594978981 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirkburn Posted July 4, 2012 Share Posted July 4, 2012 lol BBC broadcast worldwide yet the UK are the only people forced to pay for something whether they use it or not No 'the BBC' don't broadcast worldwide, in the sense you're trying to use it. The BBC has two main arms, one which broadcasts in the UK, funded by the license fee, and one which is commercial and for-profit that does the worldwide stuff. The license fee does not fund the latter, and the latter carries advertisements. And the license fee funds all this: http://www.bbc.co.uk...are/licencefee/ ... it would be impressive to have made use of none of those, directly or indirectly. Get your facts right, please. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1088769-bbc-international-content-blocked-in-the-uk/#findComment-594979031 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Montage Posted July 4, 2012 Share Posted July 4, 2012 Haggis: You clearly have no idea how the BBC runs. Quit posting such nonsense! theyarecomingforyou 1 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1088769-bbc-international-content-blocked-in-the-uk/#findComment-594979045 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJGM Posted July 4, 2012 Share Posted July 4, 2012 To add to Kirkburn's explanation ... BBC Worldwide is indeed a commercial "for profit" organisation that is a wholly owned subsidiary of the BBC. All of the profits from BBC Worldwide, including official sales of BBC DVD's and merchandise do not go into the hands of shareholders like a private company, they're funnelled back into the BBC itself to supplement the TVL. BBC Worldwide is also responsible for operating BBC branded international channels such as BBC America, which is a commercial cable channel broadcasting British TV (not just BBC) shows to the USA, and BBC World News, a 24 hour news and current affairs channel, that's much like an international version of the BBC News Channel BBC World News can be viewed online unofficially here in the UK ... if you know where to look . . . Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1088769-bbc-international-content-blocked-in-the-uk/#findComment-594979085 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haggis Veteran Posted July 4, 2012 Veteran Share Posted July 4, 2012 So in fact the BBC do broadcast worldwide Wether it be the the TVL bit or not I think someone fell out the wrong side of ones bed lmao Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1088769-bbc-international-content-blocked-in-the-uk/#findComment-594979093 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan~ Posted July 4, 2012 Share Posted July 4, 2012 If they broadcast the program as a BBC one, then we as british citizens should be able to see it, ragardless "if it's not funded" because deep down it'll be funded by us somewhere. Cannot wait until the license fee is scrapped as I strongly don't feel like we get value for money at all. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1088769-bbc-international-content-blocked-in-the-uk/#findComment-594979121 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJGM Posted July 4, 2012 Share Posted July 4, 2012 Cannot wait until the license fee is scrapped as I strongly don't feel like we get value for money at all. Would you care to suggest a viable alternative to the TV Licence then? Don't bother to suggest the BBC carries commercial advertising, or is funded by voluntary monthly subscriptions similar Sky or cable, these are not viable alternative methods. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1088769-bbc-international-content-blocked-in-the-uk/#findComment-594979233 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cooky560 Veteran Posted July 8, 2012 Veteran Share Posted July 8, 2012 Would you care to suggest a viable alternative to the TV Licence then? Don't bother to suggest the BBC carries commercial advertising, or is funded by voluntary monthly subscriptions similar Sky or cable, these are not viable alternative methods. How is advertising NOT a viable alternative as it funds pretty much every TV network in existance? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1088769-bbc-international-content-blocked-in-the-uk/#findComment-594987465 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crisp Posted July 8, 2012 Share Posted July 8, 2012 If they broadcast the program as a BBC one, then we as british citizens should be able to see it, ragardless "if it's not funded" because deep down it'll be funded by us somewhere. Cannot wait until the license fee is scrapped as I strongly don't feel like we get value for money at all. You've got a long wait then. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1088769-bbc-international-content-blocked-in-the-uk/#findComment-594987495 Share on other sites More sharing options...
theyarecomingforyou Posted July 8, 2012 Share Posted July 8, 2012 yet the UK are the only people forced to pay for something whether they use it or not Without it the quality of UK television would sink even lower, with more commercially biased programming, more overt product placement and more advertising. The BBC improves quality by setting a bar for the expectations of the viewing public. That said, I do feel that the quality of the BBC - especially their news service - has deteriorated recently. I feel that Al Jazeera - while not providing the same local (or sometimes even national focus) - provides much better balanced, less biased and less dumbed down broadcasts, especially their in-depth programming. The BBC News Channel has become much more dumbed down and casual in an effort to compete with Sky News. The same is true of the Daily Politics, which has devolved to an almost infantile level. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1088769-bbc-international-content-blocked-in-the-uk/#findComment-594987539 Share on other sites More sharing options...
n_K Posted July 8, 2012 Share Posted July 8, 2012 How is advertising NOT a viable alternative as it funds pretty much every TV network in existance? Give me your private and work emails and I'll hapially send you 1,000 emails with different adverts in them if you agree to sit through all of them and read every single one. Thought not. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1088769-bbc-international-content-blocked-in-the-uk/#findComment-594987547 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lovell Posted July 8, 2012 Share Posted July 8, 2012 Considering the amount of reality TV shows on the other 3 channels why would you want that for the BBC? :/ Well to be fair the daily politics is on after In the Night Garden :D Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1088769-bbc-international-content-blocked-in-the-uk/#findComment-594987555 Share on other sites More sharing options...
thommcg Posted July 8, 2012 Share Posted July 8, 2012 Would you care to suggest a viable alternative to the TV Licence then? Don't bother to suggest the BBC carries commercial advertising, or is funded by voluntary monthly subscriptions similar Sky or cable, these are not viable alternative methods. Pretty sure Sky or cable are not funded by voluntary subscriptions ;) As for adverts though, why not? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1088769-bbc-international-content-blocked-in-the-uk/#findComment-594987575 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirkburn Posted July 8, 2012 Share Posted July 8, 2012 As for adverts though, why not? It's one of the major appeals of the BBC, and helps maintain its independence from commercial interests. Plus, as soon as ads are allowed, state funding would be massively cut, resulting in a huge reduction in output. Compare the BBC to Channel 4 (also publically owned), for example. I mean, it's possible, but would have severe implications, theyarecomingforyou 1 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1088769-bbc-international-content-blocked-in-the-uk/#findComment-594987647 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wakers Posted July 8, 2012 Share Posted July 8, 2012 lol BBC broadcast worldwide yet the UK are the only people forced to pay for something whether they use it or not On another note you could use a proxy to bypass it Actually, a lot of companies have similar solutions to the license fee. Switzerland, for example. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1088769-bbc-international-content-blocked-in-the-uk/#findComment-594987765 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cooky560 Veteran Posted July 9, 2012 Veteran Share Posted July 9, 2012 It's one of the major appeals of the BBC, and helps maintain its independence from commercial interests. Plus, as soon as ads are allowed, state funding would be massively cut, resulting in a huge reduction in output. Compare the BBC to Channel 4 (also publically owned), for example. I mean, it's possible, but would have severe implications, While the BBC isn't censored by commercial interests, it's not exactly unbiased and uncensored programming Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1088769-bbc-international-content-blocked-in-the-uk/#findComment-594990311 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirkburn Posted July 9, 2012 Share Posted July 9, 2012 While the BBC isn't censored by commercial interests, it's not exactly unbiased and uncensored programming Good thing I didn't say it was completely unbiased and uncensored then? :) (Though I would contest that it's still a lot better than many sources, especially newspapers) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1088769-bbc-international-content-blocked-in-the-uk/#findComment-594990659 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noir Angel Posted July 9, 2012 Share Posted July 9, 2012 Would you care to suggest a viable alternative to the TV Licence then? Don't bother to suggest the BBC carries commercial advertising, or is funded by voluntary monthly subscriptions similar Sky or cable, these are not viable alternative methods. I'd prefer it if they did what other commercial stations do (particularly pr0n channels). Just encrypt the stream and make it so that you can go into a shop or buy a code online to unlock it. That way that would give those of us that object to paying the fees for the crap that the BBC runs a way of avoiding the licence without being treated like criminals for doing so. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1088769-bbc-international-content-blocked-in-the-uk/#findComment-594990675 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirkburn Posted July 9, 2012 Share Posted July 9, 2012 That way that would give those of us that object to paying the fees for the crap that the BBC runs a way of avoiding the licence without being treated like criminals for doing so. I cannot make someone like the BBC's contributions, of course. But I should point out that you would be treated like a criminal because it is a crime. It is viewed similarly not paying tax, or driving without a license - and comes from the government. Justified or not, that's why you'd be treated like a criminal (but a really really low level of one, and obvious it's a very emotive name). Plus the TV license does more than simply fund BBC programming, there's also contributions to general research, hardware and infrastructure. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1088769-bbc-international-content-blocked-in-the-uk/#findComment-594990711 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noir Angel Posted July 9, 2012 Share Posted July 9, 2012 I know what their justification is, I just don't agree with it. People should have the choice to opt out if they wish. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1088769-bbc-international-content-blocked-in-the-uk/#findComment-594990855 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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