Windows 8 is the first OS that made me downgrade

[Scorbing]

Here's a funny article on Windows 8 I just found. Can't stop laughing, but he's right.

http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/windows-8-consumer-preview.html

[scaramonga]

Here's a funny article on Windows 8 I just found. Can't stop laughing, but he's right.

http://www.dedoimedo...er-preview.html

Classic!!! lmao and so damn true! :laugh: :laugh:

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[matt4pack]

If you actually view the full video once he is shown how it works it's not that hard for him to use.

[Active.]

If you actually view the full video once he is shown how it works he does quite well with it.

Until he is asked to open and show the calculator and calendar next to each other.

[PsYcHoKiLLa]

Yeah Chris Pirillo showing some of his classy blatant Apple bias there. Here's his dad's full experience of Windows 8, as you can see he pretty much gets to grips with the whole thing (even though Chris decided to run it on parallels even though the host OS totally messes with the corners...

Chris says in the video he was going to make 2 versions, one ending with "They trying to make me turn to Mac?" and another full one...the full one didn't materialise funnily enough but is still there in it's entirety in the above video. Chris acts like a real dick at the beginning and seems to go in a huff when his dad figures it all out.

Unfortunately when I pointed out these little inequalities he saw fit to block me making comments on the video, wouldn't want any views except his, would we?

Like everyone else when it first appeared, I was in the "it's a touch interface, what the hell is it doing on a PC?" camp but I've been using it for a few months now and I'm pretty used to it all and I have to say I like it now. I just installed it on my Uncle's PC (He's not tech savvy at all) and he loves it, cos everything he cares about (web, mail, photos) are right there on the start screen and he doesn't have to go looking for it elsewhere. I think a lot of people will be surprised at how it will be received by those "non-techies" who wouldn't have tried the previews but who have similar uses as my uncle, which is a very large majority of computer users.

My uncle's experience was a lot easier cos I showed him the basics (I know it would've been more fun to do a similar video to Chris but it's been done to death now), I made sure he knows he can get back to the start screen and toggle to the desktop at any time just by hitting the windows key which is how most people would've got the start menu up too.

[NEVER85]

Win8 is just a dreadful OS, end of story! I just cant get used to that nasty metro stuff. Its just a money thing, and we are the suckers that are forced into buying it... I wont, EVER! I use Win7 daily at work, and quite like it actually, but I stop at Win8... As a system admin, I will NEVER recommend it to anyone or install it.

Just goes to show that virtually anyone can become a system administrator these days. Offer stupid advice, and those outside the field will still believe you. Sucks to be them, though.

dudes I just deleted that garbage from my laptop. I had enough. Been trying to use it and find anything that may be useful since 2am last night and I am done. Can't even write an email on Gmail because I get some weird texting error on IE...LOL

This interface is horrid. All the Windows fanboys will say otherwise and use it, but people with common sense and professionals will know better. This is the end of Windows for me. Once Windows 7 support is done, if Windows 9 is as horrid as Windows 8 then I guess it's going to be Apple and Linux from now on.

Windows 7 support will last until 2020, but if you're not bright enough to grasp Windows 8 after a few hours, then I guess that explains why you would think using an OS that can never gain a foothold in the consumer market or switching to an OS that requires a $1500 computer is a good idea.

[cropcircles]

Businesses aren't going to upgrade to it that's for sure.

I hope it flops hard and MS loses money so they can wakeup and come back to reality.

Agreed and considering most are still using XP. The feedback from W8 will certainly scare the bajesus out of business's.

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Just goes to show that virtually anyone can become a system administrator these days. Offer stupid advice, and those outside the field will still believe you. Sucks to be them, though.

Windows 7 support will last until 2020, but if you're not bright enough to grasp Windows 8 after a few hours, then I guess that explains why you would think using an OS that can never gain a foothold in the consumer market or switching to an OS that requires a $1500 computer is a good idea.

be a man and admit it. Windows 8 is bad. Don't be a fanboy. This has nothing to do with not being able to get used to it, it's the fact that they screwed a perfectly fine UI and turned into the worst possible experience a regular home user can have.

Apple may cost $1500.00, but their interface is always the same more or less. They would never do anything as stupid as this. They know better.

Windows 8 = More sales and users for Apple and more users for Linux.

End of story.

[PsYcHoKiLLa]

be a man and admit it. Windows 8 is bad. Don't be a fanboy. This has nothing to do with not being able to get used to it, it's the fact that they screwed a perfectly fine UI and turned into the worst possible experience a regular home user can have.

Apple may cost $1500.00, but their interface is always the same more or less. They would never do anything as stupid as this. They know better.

Windows 8 = More sales and users for Apple and more users for Linux.

End of story.

Touch is going to be a large part of the computing environment more and more, I also think the new Leap Motion will sell very well too, it's small enough to be inobtrusive, supposedly will be a decent price point and can just sit in front of your monitor. For older "non-techies" it would be another easy control interface, the classic version of Windows wouldn't work well with it but Windows 8 will. You seem to forget, people who come on forums like this know a lot more than "Joe Public", they just want their computers for their basic needs, they don't tinker with what they don't need to, they won't use terminals, etc. They just want everything they need easily to hand, the start screen gives them that.

I'd also have to believe that Microsoft would have carried out some kind of usability studies with end users (not beta testers), lots of companies do this.

One thing I would say though is that the explanation of the "corners access" I've seen from the final version is nowhere near enough to explain the basics.

Can't believe Chris didn't even explain the fish to his dad too, it's a Betta fish, it was widely known when they released it, it was meant to be a tongue in cheek joke for the betta testers, I guess Chris didn't get the joke? His attitude through the whole thing seemed churlish and childish for someone who purports to be a journalist. The fact that he did a hack job on the video to produce a bite-sized flame-bait video proves he's not the journalist he thinks he is.

Also compare the video to the following where he gets his dad to try OSX for the first time also, only this time it's a Mac so of course he offers lots of little hints that he denied his dad in the Windows 8 video :

[Scorbing]

Touch is going to be a large part of the computing environment more and more, I also think the new Leap Motion will sell very well too, it's small enough to be inobtrusive, supposedly will be a decent price point and can just sit in front of your monitor. For older "non-techies" it would be another easy control interface, the classic version of Windows wouldn't work well with it but Windows 8 will.

I'm not saying Windows 8 is a bad idea. I am saying, yes, it's a good OS for a tablet, but NOT for a desktop. This is horrid for a desktop.

[NEVER85]

be a man and admit it. Windows 8 is bad. Don't be a fanboy. This has nothing to do with not being able to get used to it, it's the fact that they screwed a perfectly fine UI and turned into the worst possible experience a regular home user can have.

Apple may cost $1500.00, but their interface is always the same more or less. They would never do anything as stupid as this. They know better.

Windows 8 = More sales and users for Apple and more users for Linux.

End of story.

I like how you can claim that Windows 8 will mean more sales/users for Apple and Linux when it won't even be commercially available until October 26th. Although, detractors seem to make that claim every time a new Windows OS is released, and we've seen how much ground Apple and Linux have gained on Windows....oh right. How long did you actually use the OS for, if at all?

If you don't like the Start Screen, don't use it. Download Start8 if you absolutely MUST have a Start menu, or better yet, stay on Windows 7. Even if 8 DOES flop, which, despite your claim, is far from certain, it will very likely mean more people will remain on Windows 7, not jump ship to Apple or Linux.

[Dot Matrix]

_{I waited for Windows 8, didn't bother trying betas as I wanted to see what would be the experience when finished.}

_{I had high hopes for Window 8 but my gut feeling told me something wasn't right the moment I read the start menu was gone.}

_{Lots of people are say 'move on" we don't need it as its holding the OS back, to those I say ADD A DAMN OPTION FOR BOTH MICROSOFT.}

_{The OS has always been about the user experience!}

_{Cannot experienced being forced to use a navigation system that feels like Windows 95 graphics mixed with concepts}

_{After using the OEM myself for a few days I'm at a lost of what Microsoft was thinking.}

_{I've been using pc's since Windows 3.1 and every Windows has been a development and progress.}

_{While some OS failed like VISTA, I"d take Vista over 8 anyday.}

_{Good luck selling this to companies.}

_{I know for sure in my IT department of 2500 people we will NEVER upgrade to this POS.}

You do know, there are TECHNICAL reasons for why they took the start menu out, right? Thought, you would like to know before you burst a blood vessel.

[briangw]

I find it funny that these people complaining are probably the same people who complained from Win 3.1 to 95 and Win XP to Vista. And look at the evolutions there. Win 8 is only the start of something down the line that will be solid but you can point back at its roots with Win 8. I can see it now: 'This is horrible for the desktop,' yet some revolutionary technology down the road makes it a better version yet they'll fail to give this OS credit.

[Scorbing]

I like how you can claim that Windows 8 will mean more sales/users for Apple and Linux when it won't even be commercially available until October 26th. Although, detractors seem to make that claim every time a new Windows OS is released, and we've seen how much ground Apple and Linux have gained on Windows....oh right. How long did you actually use the OS for, if at all?

If you don't like the Start Screen, don't use it. Download Start8 if you absolutely MUST have a Start menu, or better yet, stay on Windows 7. Even if 8 DOES flop, which, despite your claim, is far from certain, it will very likely mean more people will remain on Windows 7, not jump ship to Apple or Linux.

We'll see about that....

[.Neo]

You do know, there are TECHNICAL reasons for why they took the start menu out, right?

Microsoft needed a quick solution to ship tablets with.

[Dot Matrix]

Yes, Microsoft needed a quick solution to ship tablets with.

"The start menu you're referring to had a lot of bugs because it wasn't kept in sync with other changes in the platform (i.e. MFU was totally broken, for one). It could not launch Metro style applications. It had no means to even represent them, because Metro style apps provide different resources. Its search infrastructure was similarly incompatible, didn't support new localization features, etc. It did not support our modern DPI scaling mechanism. It had problems with the new multi-mon features (i.e. secondary task bars). And these are just the things I remember off the top of my head. And then, even if we had put in all that effort (or just enough to keep it stumbling along), and sacrificed other features or overall quality, it would have created a disjointed experience which have been awful to use and to support.

Contrary to what you may think, we don't make these decisions on a whim."

- Brandon Live: http://www.neowin.ne...#entry595048551

[PsYcHoKiLLa]

I find it funny that these people complaining are probably the same people who complained from Win 3.1 to 95 and Win XP to Vista. And look at the evolutions there. Win 8 is only the start of something down the line that will be solid but you can point back at its roots with Win 8. I can see it now: 'This is horrible for the desktop,' yet some revolutionary technology down the road makes it a better version yet they'll fail to give this OS credit.

Exactly, Vista had the bare bones of what would become Windows 7, although I can't really give Microsoft a pass for this, they have a 3 year release schedule, Ubuntu and OSX have a schedule much quicker than this, the mistakes in Vista could have been forgiven/fixed if they changed their release schedule to a much quicker one while dropping the price for the releases. I have a feeling this might happen soon, well, if they want to compete when Gabe Newell tries to carry the gaming world to Linux.

[Scorbing]

Windows 8 is a tablet OS, not a desktop OS. Sorry fanboys, but it's the truth. Windows 7 is dominant on the desktop. Windows 8 is useless as a desktop OS.

I showed everyone at the company I work at Windows 8 today. Everyone from the big boss to the IT department techs and everyone's expression was: "WTF is that?"

Left them my laptop all day to play with it and at the end of the day they all said the same thing:

"This sucks."

[.Neo]

It could not launch Metro style applications. It had no means to even represent them, because Metro style apps provide different resources.

Why are those "Metro style applications" there to begin with? Because...

Microsoft needed a quick solution to ship tablets with.

...And the circle is round. Yay!

Thank you so much for proving my point.

[bjoswald]

My GF saw some screenshots of Windows 8, and she said: "I like the flowers. Everything else sucks." I should try to get her into IT; she'd probably do well.

[Scorbing]

My GF saw some screenshots of Windows 8, and she said: "I like the flowers. Everything else sucks." I should try to get her into IT; she'd probably do well.

She didn't play with it for 10 hours. She just looked at it.

[0sit0]

Windows 8 is the reason I'm now running OS X on my PC. I'm happy for those who enjoy using it, I just can't, I tried... but gave up every time :pinch: .

[PsYcHoKiLLa]

Windows 8 is a tablet OS, not a desktop OS. Sorry fanboys, but it's the truth. Windows 7 is dominant on the desktop. Windows 8 is useless as a desktop OS.

I showed everyone at the company I work at Windows 8 today. Everyone from the big boss to the IT department techs and everyone's expression was: "WTF is that?"

Left them my laptop all day to play with it and at the end of the day they all said the same thing:

"This sucks."

Well, because you're coming at this in a fair and balanced way (about as fair and balanced as Fox) I'll still have to disagree and as for being a "Fan Boy", I use Ubuntu, Windows and OSX, all for different things and different reasons. The indisputable fact remains that the majority of home users run Windows on a PC because of the sheer difference in choice of applications (whether gaming, video, audio or whatever).

Manufacturers will make software for whoever has the majority, that's just economics. Microsoft are making a bold (and maybe mistaken) move changing their biggest seller in this way, I'll wait and see what happens down the line but they've made mistakes in the past and are still the majority seller in the computer market.

As for what I said about my uncle liking Windows 8, he has a Mac Mini and asked me to put Windows 8 on it (He actually just said "Windows" but I decided to try him with Windows 8 because I thought it would intuitive for him and was proved right) instead of OSX, because he's used to Windows and he wants to play games on it, something that Mac is still behind with.

I would have to admit, though, that I'm not as impressed with Apple products as other people, I just don't see why I should pay twice the price for a computer just cos it's wrapped in white plastic and has a fruit on it.

[BajiRav]

So now that you two have removed Windows 8 from your systems and don't want to or plan on using it, how can you contribute anything useful to this thread besides "Windows 8 sucks" or some variant of that sentiment?