kaotic Posted August 6, 2012 Share Posted August 6, 2012 I like the OS so far. I don't have a problem with it at all. It even seems to be faster. Calum, Major General and NeoPro 3 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1096309-windows-8-is-the-first-os-that-made-me-downgrade/page/2/#findComment-595064407 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alwaysonacoffebreak Posted August 6, 2012 Share Posted August 6, 2012 The same clowns who sunk $6 billion into buying an advertising company only to make a complete loss on it? Microsoft has been sliding downhill ever since Ballmer took over for Gates. The difference is that Gates is an engineer who actually understands technology and has a vision. Most importantly, he understood software. Ballmer's no Gates. What are you talking about? Sliding downhill? Have you even seen the quarter-to-quarter earnings reports? Stocks are on a 52wk high. Quality of software is going up (Except Windows 8) so I really can't understand what you're talking about. Calum, Sszecret and dr_crabman 3 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1096309-windows-8-is-the-first-os-that-made-me-downgrade/page/2/#findComment-595064411 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisj1968 Posted August 6, 2012 Share Posted August 6, 2012 You've been using WIndows for 20 years and you dont know Alt+Tab or Win+Tab? oh that's the improved Os system, back to keystrokes. kinda MS-DOS like isn't it? dogmatix 1 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1096309-windows-8-is-the-first-os-that-made-me-downgrade/page/2/#findComment-595064415 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawkMan Posted August 6, 2012 Share Posted August 6, 2012 Wow.. it is terrible.. using it now the OEM version and all I can say it's absolutely terrible. For someone who has been using Windows for 20 years now I can't find how to switch between freakin' browser windows. The whole thing is a bigger mess than I thought. How in the hell will regular users understand this is completely beyond me. you don't know how to use the task bar... Well that explains a LOT. dr_crabman and Major General 2 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1096309-windows-8-is-the-first-os-that-made-me-downgrade/page/2/#findComment-595064421 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dot Matrix Posted August 6, 2012 Share Posted August 6, 2012 I wonder how many of you actually sat down with the OS with a clear mind and didn't scoff at it the first second you saw it. The best way to go about ANY changes to ANY platform or app is to approach with a clear mind, and many, many free hours. Windows 8 requires you to suspend any previous conceptions about operating systems. Give the hardware time to catch up, and by Windows 9, I guarantee some of you will have changed your opinion. I personally can't wait to augment my desktop with a touch screen. Touch input is quicker and more efficient than the mouse is in some cases. Calum and oliver182 2 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1096309-windows-8-is-the-first-os-that-made-me-downgrade/page/2/#findComment-595064433 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisj1968 Posted August 6, 2012 Share Posted August 6, 2012 Windows is all about Hype. Vista, they jacked up the entire OS by giving us the fat lady that could barely move.That sucker ate alot of my hardrive space. Win7 found success because they redid the kernel. Win8, they felt they could impress the market by hyping a "new" UI and completely revamping the desktop. I'll wait to see what's behind win8. but this is 2 out of 3 OS'es that bombed under Ballmer. and I have been using Windows since 3.1 circa 1991. Life was much better under Gates.. :D dogmatix 1 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1096309-windows-8-is-the-first-os-that-made-me-downgrade/page/2/#findComment-595064437 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawkMan Posted August 6, 2012 Share Posted August 6, 2012 I tried the RTM yesterday evening and I have to say this is the worst thing Microsoft have ever done by far. There is no reason at all for me to upgrade to this. I mean really what new features are there? A new UI on Explorer? Task Manager? Metro? Is that all? This OS is a total joke. This OS feels like Microsoft throwing us under the bus (pre-existing users of Windows) to try and get in to the tablet market. Leveraging their desktop monopoly to give developers incentive to make Metro apps because they know that without that large desktop market share developers will find it difficult to find reasons to invest in making Metro apps. Why develop for a tablet that will only capture 1 maybe 2% of the market? And well on the desktop it just sucks. It doesn't work man, giant UI buttons, 2D boxes, removal of the start menu. We use keyboards and mice on our desktops not fat fingers. This whole UI just doesn't work and it feels unfinished, half baked, confused about what it is. The fact it has two separate environments for a start just adds an extra layer of complexity to an already confused operating system. I really fail to understand how Microsoft ever thought this was a good idea. I mean really.. who is running things over there? "Hey guys I got a great idea, let's take the UI that hasn't got even garnered 2% share on mobile after a year in the market and put it on our main Windows product! Nothing could go wrong with that! - Also lets spend practically all our time porting that UI over and offer almost no other new features - No Time Machine, iTunes or iCloud competitor, no one needs those anyways what they need is giant boxes and an extra toolbox in Explorer!" new features well to start with - Start screen, easier and more organized view of your favorite pinned apps (don't compare it to all apps, that's another layer in). With the ability to sort your apps into named groups. - Metro apps and - - App store - New task manager - Overall far better performance. - better function for detecting new apps that can open file types - updated graphics driver model, now you get DWM(aero) even in software/classic mode - Far improved Multi monitor support - New restore functions, enabling a full reset to factory standards on all installations with no fuss. - Live accoutn and cloud features built in. - Sync your desktop across computers/devices - Storage spaces - faster boot time. And much more. Windows is all about Hype. Vista, they jacked up the entire OS by giving us the fat lady that could barely move.That sucker ate alot of my hardrive space. Win7 found success because they redid the kernel. Win8, they felt they could impress the market by hyping a "new" UI and completely revamping the desktop. I'll wait to see what's behind win8. but this is 2 out of 3 OS'es that bombed under Ballmer. and I have been using Windows since 3.1 circa 1991. Life was much better under Gates.. :D Vista didn't bomb, and before 7 was the fastest selling windows OS. Just because you didn't like what was a perfectly good OS doesn't mean it bombed. Calum, oliver182, Stoffel and 2 others 5 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1096309-windows-8-is-the-first-os-that-made-me-downgrade/page/2/#findComment-595064441 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alwaysonacoffebreak Posted August 6, 2012 Share Posted August 6, 2012 new features well to start with - Start screen, easier and more organized view of your favorite pinned apps (don't compare it to all apps, that's another layer in). With the ability to sort your apps into named groups. - Metro apps and - - App store - New task manager - Overall far better performance. - better function for detecting new apps that can open file types - updated graphics driver model, now you get DWM(aero) even in software/classic mode - Far improved Multi monitor support - New restore functions, enabling a full reset to factory standards on all installations with no fuss. - Live accoutn and cloud features built in. - Sync your desktop across computers/devices - Storage spaces - faster boot time. And much more. Vista didn't bomb, and before 7 was the fastest selling windows OS. Just because you didn't like what was a perfectly good OS doesn't mean it bombed. You forgot Security and Kernel changes :) oliver182 1 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1096309-windows-8-is-the-first-os-that-made-me-downgrade/page/2/#findComment-595064451 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quillz Posted August 6, 2012 Share Posted August 6, 2012 Windows is all about Hype. Vista, they jacked up the entire OS by giving us the fat lady that could barely move.That sucker ate alot of my hardrive space. Win7 found success because they redid the kernel. Win8, they felt they could impress the market by hyping a "new" UI and completely revamping the desktop. I'll wait to see what's behind win8. but this is 2 out of 3 OS'es that bombed under Ballmer. and I have been using Windows since 3.1 circa 1991. Life was much better under Gates.. :D I was unaware you could see the future and thus know Win8's exact sales figures. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1096309-windows-8-is-the-first-os-that-made-me-downgrade/page/2/#findComment-595064473 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joni_78 Posted August 6, 2012 Share Posted August 6, 2012 As much as I tried to get used to Win 8, there is no way I'll go back to it. No those fake start buttons are crap. Yes they are. Just when you think Microsoft finally got it right with Win 7, someone in their R&D dept. decided that their main source of revenue needed major change. I understand the whole idea of integrating all MS devices together and trying to take over the world with a unified OS but when you force ridiculous **** down people's throat they go elsewhere. If Windows 8 becomes a requirement to run certain **** I'll switch to Ubuntu (or another Debian distro) in a heartbeat. I've been using Windows since 3.1 and never have I seen such a stupid decision since WinME. F*** *** MS. Same here. I have upgraded to every Windows version since Windows 95, I've even used these from the first beta versions as my main OS because I have been on internal beta at Connect, but this time had zero interest after seeing where this was headed. I must say I would be interested in some performance improvements in W8 but I just can't switch from W7 because W8 is so ugly. To be honest my main reason for upgrading has always been the UI. You should understand that Windows team changes on every version almost completely and every new team has a different vision and would want to do a complete overhaul on the OS. That's why Windows sometimes takes steps backwards. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1096309-windows-8-is-the-first-os-that-made-me-downgrade/page/2/#findComment-595064489 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArialBlue Posted August 6, 2012 Share Posted August 6, 2012 Windows 7 was the first OS that made me downgrade. It was ugly as ****, messy, and slow. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1096309-windows-8-is-the-first-os-that-made-me-downgrade/page/2/#findComment-595064493 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dot Matrix Posted August 6, 2012 Share Posted August 6, 2012 would want to do a complete overhaul on the OS. That's why Windows sometimes takes steps backwards. And a complete overhaul is what we're getting. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1096309-windows-8-is-the-first-os-that-made-me-downgrade/page/2/#findComment-595064495 Share on other sites More sharing options...
grayscale Posted August 6, 2012 Share Posted August 6, 2012 Windows 8 is the first OS that made me wanna eat more popcorn. Lots of it. windows95isg8, Calum, Lirodon and 2 others 5 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1096309-windows-8-is-the-first-os-that-made-me-downgrade/page/2/#findComment-595064499 Share on other sites More sharing options...
excalpius Posted August 6, 2012 Share Posted August 6, 2012 (edited) You've been using WIndows for 20 years and you dont know Alt+Tab or Win+Tab? Since when does making something ONLY possible through the keyboard a GUI enhancement?! W8 is two steps backwards in productivity and GUI development. <snipped out quote of removed post> Edited August 6, 2012 by Calum Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1096309-windows-8-is-the-first-os-that-made-me-downgrade/page/2/#findComment-595064501 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dot Matrix Posted August 6, 2012 Share Posted August 6, 2012 Since when does making something ONLY possible through the keyboard a GUI enhancement?! W8 is two steps backwards in productivity and GUI development. Or he may have a life that doesn't permit him to waste his time on meaningless wannabe forums more than once every few days... Just saying. Alt+Tab is a power user's dream. My hand is always right there ready to switch tasks. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1096309-windows-8-is-the-first-os-that-made-me-downgrade/page/2/#findComment-595064503 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joni_78 Posted August 6, 2012 Share Posted August 6, 2012 Windows 7 was the first OS that made me downgrade. It was ugly as ****, messy, and slow. Downgraded from W7 to Vista? And a complete overhaul is what we're getting. Yep, and by doing that some things go step backwards but what goes wrong should be fixed with Windows 9. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1096309-windows-8-is-the-first-os-that-made-me-downgrade/page/2/#findComment-595064505 Share on other sites More sharing options...
code65536 Posted August 6, 2012 Share Posted August 6, 2012 Alt+Tab is a power user's dream. My hand is always right there ready to switch tasks.It's great when I have two windows that I want to switch between frequently. It's pretty useless when I have a couple dozen windows open, and I need to get to one that isn't immediately adjacent in the order. One size does not fit all. FiB3R 1 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1096309-windows-8-is-the-first-os-that-made-me-downgrade/page/2/#findComment-595064515 Share on other sites More sharing options...
xankazo Posted August 6, 2012 Share Posted August 6, 2012 As for me, I will not be changing to Windows 8. MS invested so many resource in the Metro interface, yet the desktop part still uses icons from Vista. It shows me how much they cared about the Desktop area and I happen to have a Desktop computer. I guess I must've been living under a rock or in a cave or something. Thankfully we have Windows 7. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1096309-windows-8-is-the-first-os-that-made-me-downgrade/page/2/#findComment-595064529 Share on other sites More sharing options...
grayscale Posted August 6, 2012 Share Posted August 6, 2012 It's great when I have two windows that I want to switch between frequently. It's pretty useless when I have a couple dozen windows open, and I need to get to one that isn't immediately adjacent in the order. One size does not fit all. and how does Windows 8 made switching worse? It still has the taskbar and the alt-tab XD Brandon H 1 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1096309-windows-8-is-the-first-os-that-made-me-downgrade/page/2/#findComment-595064533 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inactive Posted August 6, 2012 Share Posted August 6, 2012 I predict Windows 8 will be one of Microsoft's biggest product blunders. Windows Vista will look like a huge success in comparison. It should have been strictly a phone and tablet OS and had it's own name separate from the desktop versions. +Anarkii and Albert 2 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1096309-windows-8-is-the-first-os-that-made-me-downgrade/page/2/#findComment-595064541 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirEvan Posted August 6, 2012 Share Posted August 6, 2012 You've been using WIndows for 20 years and you dont know Alt+Tab or Win+Tab? Browser windows would be Ctrl+Tab, Alt + Tab is for switching programs. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1096309-windows-8-is-the-first-os-that-made-me-downgrade/page/2/#findComment-595064543 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raa Posted August 6, 2012 Share Posted August 6, 2012 I think it's funny ahhell liked every single pro-8 comment here, but hasn't actually commented... :p Personally, i'll stay with 7 for now and evaluate what to do with 8. I'm not really inspired to use it on my desktops for any reason. Has potential for tablets though... DConnell 1 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1096309-windows-8-is-the-first-os-that-made-me-downgrade/page/2/#findComment-595064545 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackkk1 Posted August 6, 2012 Share Posted August 6, 2012 Why are you torturing himself with windows problems, why not to switch to Ubuntu/MAC now? Have you noticed how popular MAC is in movies? Almost in each Hollywood movie when characters are using computer there're apple logo on back of the lid. It means if you would start using MAC, you'll be as cool as your favorite movies stars! Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1096309-windows-8-is-the-first-os-that-made-me-downgrade/page/2/#findComment-595064553 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vykranth Posted August 6, 2012 Share Posted August 6, 2012 new features well to start with - New task manager - Overall far better performance. - better function for detecting new apps that can open file types - updated graphics driver model, now you get DWM(aero) even in software/classic mode - Far improved Multi monitor support - faster boot time. This is quite true: Windows 8 has all these improvments plus IE 10, spell checking, kernel changes, Ribboned Explorer. Sadly, even if these are very interesting and to me, the most compelling reasons to upgrade, everything I see is the user interface changes that made things more complicated to me. So, yes, I am keeping Windows 7 too. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1096309-windows-8-is-the-first-os-that-made-me-downgrade/page/2/#findComment-595064563 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamieakers Posted August 6, 2012 Share Posted August 6, 2012 If you don't like change then my advice to you is to get out of the IT industry. Change is the only thing we are assured of and we can plan for! efjay, Ice_Blue, oliver182 and 1 other 4 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1096309-windows-8-is-the-first-os-that-made-me-downgrade/page/2/#findComment-595064569 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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