ccoltmanm Posted October 26, 2012 Share Posted October 26, 2012 I use PowerTeacher, which is a grading program my school district has for teachers to input grades. It uses Java to install and run a program on the desktop. Can I use this on Windows Surface? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1115099-windows-surface-and-java/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
vcfan Posted October 26, 2012 Share Posted October 26, 2012 No, WindowsRT IE doesnt support plugins,and JAVA is a VM anyways, which isnt allowed in metro. All these sites using JAVA have got to learn already to dump JAVA in the browser, because the JAVA runtime is so insecure. How many vulnerabilities are there going to be? TPreston and siah1214 2 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1115099-windows-surface-and-java/#findComment-595275099 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ccoltmanm Posted October 26, 2012 Author Share Posted October 26, 2012 This isn't Java in the browser as much as a Java applet on the desktop. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1115099-windows-surface-and-java/#findComment-595275107 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aethec Posted October 26, 2012 Share Posted October 26, 2012 All WinRT desktop software has to be signed by MS to be ran. Java isn't. Theoretically, Oracle could create a Java projection for WinRT (which wouldn't help in this case), or even a Java runtime using WinRT (which would do what you want but be extremely slow because a JIT is needed for performance and WinRT doesn't allow that), but that's it. However, if you use the Surface Pro (not available yet), you can, because it's just a "normal" x86 Windows which means you can install Java. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1115099-windows-surface-and-java/#findComment-595275117 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argi Posted October 26, 2012 Share Posted October 26, 2012 Not on a Surface RT, no. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1115099-windows-surface-and-java/#findComment-595275135 Share on other sites More sharing options...
vcfan Posted October 26, 2012 Share Posted October 26, 2012 On 26/10/2012 at 21:11, ccoltmanm said: This isn't Java in the browser as much as a Java applet on the desktop. I understand, I was just saying ie doesnt support it,and also because it is a VM, WindowsRT also doesnt support any kind of software that is a VM that runs any kind of code inside of it. So even though JAVA can be ported to WindowsRT ARM devices, it still wouldnt be allowed because of those restrictions imposed by Microsoft. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1115099-windows-surface-and-java/#findComment-595275149 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ccoltmanm Posted October 26, 2012 Author Share Posted October 26, 2012 Doesn't Windows RT have a desktop client of IE? Couldn't that still install add-ons like Java? It has Flash. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1115099-windows-surface-and-java/#findComment-595275373 Share on other sites More sharing options...
pickytech Posted October 26, 2012 Share Posted October 26, 2012 On 26/10/2012 at 21:15, Aethec said: All WinRT desktop software has to be signed by MS to be ran. Java isn't. Yet. I'd be surprised if this were too far off. Then again, with the way that Oracle acts like Java is going to survive on its own, I wouldn't be too surprised if it didn't too. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1115099-windows-surface-and-java/#findComment-595275375 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jakem1 Posted October 26, 2012 Share Posted October 26, 2012 On 26/10/2012 at 22:46, ccoltmanm said: Doesn't Windows RT have a desktop client of IE? Couldn't that still install add-ons like Java? It has Flash. No, I don't think so. Also, Flash is treated as a special case by MS - they're responsible for updating it and determining which sites it will work on. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1115099-windows-surface-and-java/#findComment-595275445 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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