win8 Can't adjust to windows 8

[ahhell]

My 56 year old, computer illiterate, father has gotten used to Windows 8 just fine... And we use Windows 2003 at work..

Erm....

[Shasoosh]

You could try a couple of things:

1. Install Windows Live Mail on your desktop (I use it for my default email program), then you will not have that above problem. Also, it will sync with your Mail app seamlessly.

2. Or go to "Default Programs" and choose "Mail" app as your default program, and click "set this program as default" then clock "OK." This might work, but I am not sure.

1. I don't want to install Live Mail and don't want to use it. Ever. I want to use the metro one.

2. That was the first thing i tried (the error msg suggest you to do so) but that didn't changed anything.

[psreloaded]

Is there a free start menu out there? all tough I don't like the idea installing a 3rd party app just for that.

Just to make things clear, I'm not bashing windows 8 (yet)

Just wanted to know if i'm the only one feeling that those tiles are pure hype and will die sometime soon on pcs.

Why would i want to open something full screen (unless its a movie \ picture\ game) when i'm on my computer. I don't get it.

The metro part is aimed at tablets... So you are definitely not alone... Install a start menu replacement and you should be good to go... except for things where you have no choice since some pc settings are only available on metro... and removed from the control panel...

[Dot Matrix]

Even though they have a new start screen, I still don't see the reason why they had to remove / Hide the "Start Button", that's just stupid. Unless you are on a tablet, and then it makes total sense..........I see what I did there!

Not sure what you mean, it's on the Charms Bar.

[Aletheia]

1. I don't want to install Live Mail and don't want to use it. Ever. I want to use the metro one.

2. That was the first thing i tried (the error msg suggest you to do so) but that didn't changed anything.

I see. Hmmmm... Let me try something else...

[threetonesun]

Erm....

Windows 2003 was a real thing, if that's what you're confused about. :laugh:

[+Warwagon MVC]

Not sure what you mean, it's on the Charms Bar.

Which is also hidden.

[yardmanflex]

I've been using it for a week now and I still feel pretty much lost.

I miss the start menu! All I did there is used the search and click My Computer but I keep going to the corner of the screen searching for it.

Metro is ..idk, not for me. Why the apps takes a few seconds to load? Sure, every application we use takes a few seconds to load but with metro the stupid splash screen stops me from doing any thing else. It's like metro takes me to a completely other place in windows with its full screen etc' and i don't like it. Makes me feel disconnected.

How much time it took you to adjust to windows 8?

Dude if it's so hard for you to adjust to win8 then go back to win7 LOL

[Dot Matrix]

Which is also hidden.

Why is that a problem? It isn't long before it's uncovered... you know, by moving the mouse.

[Xilo]

Embracing change can be a good thing. A lot of people fail to realize though that embracing change for the sake of change is generally a bad idea. This is one of those times where it's bad.

[threetonesun]

Embracing change can be a good thing. A lot of people fail to realize though that embracing change for the sake of change is generally a bad idea. This is one of those times where it's bad.

Thank you for this very specific example of how change is bad. :rofl:

There's very little "change" in Windows 8. It's a reorganization or some elements, and if you use more than one OS, it shouldn't really appear all that different.

[Shasoosh]

You know those Windows 8 tutorials with their instructions: "click or tap the picture above"

Why are you talking with me about taping? I'm on a pc! That annoys me.

You'd expect Microsoft to implement

If (machine==pc) then tap=NO;[/CODE]

[threetonesun]

You know those Windows 8 tutorials with their instructions: "click or tap the picture above"

Why are you talking with me about taping? I'm on a pc! That annoys me.

You'd expect Microsoft to implement

If (machine==pc) then tap=NO;[/CODE]

There are PCs with touchscreens.

[Shasoosh]

sorry.

If (machine==pcWithNoTouchScreenWhatSoEver) then tap=NO;[/CODE]

:)

[Noir Angel]

Embracing change can be a good thing. A lot of people fail to realize though that embracing change for the sake of change is generally a bad idea. This is one of those times where it's bad.

I keep hearing that argument myself, and I still laugh at it. I adapted to the changes made with Vista, I adapted to (and love) the superbar

[+Matthew S. Subscriber²]

Erm....

Our company uses Windows Server 2003 as a workstation os...

[Nashy]

I hate Windows 8. But that's fine, I'll get used to it, as we all will.

To the people saying "Why didn't they give us a choice". It's simple. They want to get rid of the desktop UI completely. This is the start of the transition to a life after start. Had to start somewhere.

[(Account no longer active)]

I never would have if it wasn't for Start8, and enabling direct-to-desktop at boot.

[Shasoosh]

After removing Windows 8 yesterday and going back to Windows 7 I felt like updating this thread.

I hate it! I figured that out pretty fast but needed to hate it in such extent to backup all my stuff and re install Windows 7

* Metro - The all idea seems stupid to me. Every thing is so big like it was customized for the visually impaired

* UAC - Disable it and loose Metro (that's fine) plus you'll get all kind of strange behaviors when it's completely off

* Slow Internet - People might argue on that one but the fact is that torrents were really really slow on my Windows 8 machine. Gone back to 7, Maximum bandwidth all over right out of the box.

I'm sure that a lot of people are happy with their machine, but right now 7 feels like home.

[PGHammer]

I hate Windows 8. But that's fine, I'll get used to it, as we all will.

To the people saying "Why didn't they give us a choice". It's simple. They want to get rid of the desktop UI completely. This is the start of the transition to a life after start. Had to start somewhere.

Getting rid of the Start menu didn't get rid of the desktop UI one iota.

I can tell you exactly how many Win32 DESKTOP applications actually CARE that the Start menu is gone, even though ALL of their installers refer to it - exactly none.

Users care about the Start menu; applications, and their installers, do not.

Taskbar pinning is still there - the Superbar is still there. Neither feature depends on the Start menu.

Here's another surprise - Win32 games care not a whit about the Start menu, either. (Again, all the installers refer to it - the games themselves could care less.)

The Start menu is like Program Manager (or even File Manager) from the days of Windows 3.x/NT 3.x - a dead duck.

Surprisingly, Windows 7 (not 8) was the beginning of the end for the Start menu - exactly how many new features, or improvements, did the Start menu get with 7? (And how much had the Start menu been complained about - since XP alone?)

Shasoosh - was this a desktop or portable that you had installed Windows 8 on? Which bitness? And what torrent client?

[francescob]

The user, the late user, was only partly correct. He *was* obsolete. But so is the Operating System, the entity he worshiped. Any Operating system, any entity, any ideology that fails to recognize the worth, the dignity, the rights of Start buttons, Program Managers and Reversi (except in Nebraska), that operating system is obsolete. A case to be filed under "M" for Metro - in The Twilight Zone.

[Shasoosh]

@PGHammer It's a desktop.

Regarding the torrent client, I tried them all but mainly Vuze and uTorrent, I had 6 month to play around with it and I always felt that something is off (60%-70% of the speed I should be getting). After a while I've realized that I'm spending more and more time on Lion (I'm dual booting) which is kinda ok because in the past 6 month I've developed at home a lot more than I used to :).

On Lion I got the same speed I'm use to so I knew the connection isn't the problem.

[cork1958]

Could not agree with OP more and that is EXACTLY why Winodws 8 sucks for so many every day users!!

Having to install a 3rd party app for the stupid start menu is absolutely idiotic!!

I've adjusted to Windows 8 some what, considering I don't have it on any of my 8 computers, but from working on other people's brand new systems, I've got the hang of it. Have worked on several Windows 8 machines just long enough to down grade them to Windows 7 mostly!!

I definitely WILL NOT be upgrading any of my machines any time soon, so here's to hoping Windows 7 last as long, or longer than XP!!

[blade1269]

If you're looking for a free replacement for the Start Button, I'd recommend ClassicShell. I haven't had any problems with it when I use Windows 8 (which is maybe once an hour a week... I still will go into Windows 7 as that's where all my work is really done.)

http://classicshell.sourceforge.net/

This!

[PGHammer]

@PGHammer It's a desktop.

Regarding the torrent client, I tried them all but mainly Vuze and uTorrent, I had 6 month to play around with it and I always felt that something is off (60%-70% of the speed I should be getting). After a while I've realized that I'm spending more and more time on Lion (I'm dual booting) which is kinda ok because in the past 6 month I've developed at home a lot more than I used to :).

On Lion I got the same speed I'm use to so I knew the connection isn't the problem.

Vuze is very VERY Java-dependent - if you have an out-of-date Java version, it can cause issues with Vuze. I prefer Vuze to uTorrent (even in Windows 8) because it has faster transfer rates; however, the Java dependence is a major security headache. (Transmission, another common P2P client between OS X and Windows, has the same Java-dependency issues as Vuze.) What version of Java were you using?

Could not agree with OP more and that is EXACTLY why Winodws 8 sucks for so many every day users!!

Having to install a 3rd party app for the stupid start menu is absolutely idiotic!!

I've adjusted to Windows 8 some what, considering I don't have it on any of my 8 computers, but from working on other people's brand new systems, I've got the hang of it. Have worked on several Windows 8 machines just long enough to down grade them to Windows 7 mostly!!

I definitely WILL NOT be upgrading any of my machines any time soon, so here's to hoping Windows 7 last as long, or longer than XP!!

That is why I said it is a USER issue.

I can get why users are dependent on the Start menu - after all, it had been around for seventeen years.

However, when you start trying to say that it is anything else, watch the theories have holes blown completely through them.

I have no beef to users not liking Windows 8 for user-related issues. However, I have MUCH beef when they start trying to blow smoke up my butt and say it is something else.