+LogicalApex MVC Posted December 13, 2012 MVC Share Posted December 13, 2012 Do you guys honestly think that run box will last much longer!? As I said earlier, why remove something that doesn't need removing? It would be more work to remove it... The code for the RUN dialog doesn't change with every Windows release. It probably is largely unchanged from Windows 95... Not every user is incompetent. Some of us can, and do, use the advanced functions of the OS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dot Matrix Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 why not? that's one thing that's definitely not hurting anything by being there and it especially comes in handy when/if explorer crashes It's redundant code. It could be removed in favor of the Metro search screen which is triggered by Win+Q. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+LogicalApex MVC Posted December 13, 2012 MVC Share Posted December 13, 2012 It's redundant code. It could be removed in favor of the Metro search screen which is triggered by Win+Q. And you know this how? Have you seen the Windows source code? If Microsoft's developers are smart, and I suspect they are, the code isn't redundant and instead the Metro search calls the RUN dialog (or whatever the RUN dialog itself calls). What you see isn't directly reflective of the structure of the code executing behind the scenes... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon H Supervisor Posted December 13, 2012 Supervisor Share Posted December 13, 2012 And you know this how? Have you seen the Windows source code? If Microsoft's developers are smart, and I suspect they are, the code isn't redundant and instead the Metro search calls the RUN dialog (or whatever the RUN dialog itself calls). What you see isn't directly reflective of the structure of the code executing behind the scenes... this, most likely the search box from vista-8 is making a call through the run programplus like i said, if explorer crashes, Win+Q does nothing. what do you do then? oh that's right, start explorer back up through the run dialog box Dot, even most linux guis have a run dialog box you can access even if it is redundant, it's so small it shouldn't really matter, it's probably only a line or 2 of code Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dot Matrix Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 And you know this how? Have you seen the Windows source code? If Microsoft's developers are smart, and I suspect they are, the code isn't redundant and instead the Metro search calls the RUN dialog (or whatever the RUN dialog itself calls). What you see isn't directly reflective of the structure of the code executing behind the scenes... If that's the case, it can be simply eliminated, and Win+R re-directed to Metro Search. It would be one step in creating unity in the OS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawkMan Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 And you know this how? Have you seen the Windows source code? If Microsoft's developers are smart, and I suspect they are, the code isn't redundant and instead the Metro search calls the RUN dialog (or whatever the RUN dialog itself calls). What you see isn't directly reflective of the structure of the code executing behind the scenes... .... SERIOUSLY... you don't code for a living do you... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Warwagon MVC Posted December 13, 2012 MVC Share Posted December 13, 2012 It's redundant code. It could be removed in favor of the Metro search screen which is triggered by Win+Q. So do you type in your URL's in the search box if the browser isn't open? Did you ever use the run box in XP? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dot Matrix Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 plus like i said, if explorer crashes, Win+Q does nothing. what do you do then? oh that's right, start explorer back up through the run dialog box When was the last time Explorer crashed for you? It hasn't crashed for me in years. Plus, CTRL+ALT+DEL still works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawkMan Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 So do you type in your URL's in the search box if the browser isn't open? Did you ever use the run box in XP? No I open a browser, but then, I never not have a browser open. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dot Matrix Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 Did you ever use the run box in XP? I used the run box.... Never. I type my URLs in the browser... Where they belong. And to be honest, I never type URLs anymore. I pin them to START. Plus, guess what also works in Win8 Search... You guessed it. URLs. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon H Supervisor Posted December 13, 2012 Supervisor Share Posted December 13, 2012 When was the last time Explorer crashed for you? It hasn't crashed for me in years. Plus, CTRL+ALT+DEL still works. yes, ctrl+alt+del still works, and you then from there, you open the task manager where you can access RUNplus the search box doesn't always work for everything, like using flags when launching an app for example Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Warwagon MVC Posted December 13, 2012 MVC Share Posted December 13, 2012 I used the run box.... Never. I type my URLs in the browser... Where they belong. See that is were I think power user vs normal users differs. A power user won't take the time to open a browser and click an address bar. He will do a windows key + R Type www.(the web site).com press enter and be done with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dot Matrix Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 See that is were I think power user vs normal users differs. A power user won't take the time to open a browser and click an address bar. He will do a windows key + R Type www.(the web site).com press enter and be done with it. Like I said above. URLs also work in Win7 and Win8 Search. ;) Better part? I don't even need to know the URL! I can do a web search too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon H Supervisor Posted December 13, 2012 Supervisor Share Posted December 13, 2012 See that is were I think power user vs normal users differs. A power user won't take the time to open a browser and click an address bar. He will do a windows key + R Type www.(the web site).com press enter and be done with it. sorry war, you're the only one i've ever known to actually do thatI've never heard of any other "power user" that does that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Warwagon MVC Posted December 13, 2012 MVC Share Posted December 13, 2012 Like I said above. URLs also work in Win7 and Win8 Search. ;) You don't even use that. You still open the browser. sorry war, you're the only one i've ever known to actually do that Close your browser and try it. windows key + R then type the web address with the www. then press enter. it's MUCH faster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BajiRav Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 Do you guys honestly think that run box will last much longer!? Well practically it was removed in Vista when Microsoft removed it from start menu. :p I don't see them doing more than that because it is used in bunch of places including the server core editions. See that is were I think power user vs normal users differs. A power user won't take the time to open a browser and click an address bar. He will do a windows key + R Type www.(the web site).com press enter and be done with it. Don't power users have multiple applications open? why is your browser closed then? hand over your power user card on your way out...NAAW! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dot Matrix Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 Another difference between Search and Run, with run, you HAVE to know the filepath. Let's be honest, no one, and I mean no one, remembers file paths, no do they want to sit there and type them out, when Search works faster and more efficiently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawkMan Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 See that is were I think power user vs normal users differs. A power user won't take the time to open a browser and click an address bar. He will do a windows key + R Type www.(the web site).com press enter and be done with it. I think you're confused about what a power user is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Warwagon MVC Posted December 13, 2012 MVC Share Posted December 13, 2012 Well practically it was removed in Vista when Microsoft removed it from start menu. :p I don't see them doing more than that because it is used in bunch of places including the server core editions. Don't power users have multiple applications open? why is your browser closed then? hand over your power user card on your way out...NAAW! ,Even if the web browser was open it's much slower to bring the app back in focus and click the address bar, than it is to use the run box with windows key + R Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon H Supervisor Posted December 13, 2012 Supervisor Share Posted December 13, 2012 Another difference between Search and Run, with run, you HAVE to know the filepath. Let's be honest, no one, and I mean no one, remembers file paths, no do they want to sit there and type them out, when Search works faster and more efficiently. yes and no, basic things from the system & system32 folders you can just type the app name such as regedit or services.msc or explorer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dot Matrix Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 , Even if the web browser was open it's much slower to bring the app back in focus and click the address bar, than it is to use the run box with windows key + R If your mouse is so slow, then should you not increase the tracking speed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+LogicalApex MVC Posted December 13, 2012 MVC Share Posted December 13, 2012 See that is were I think power user vs normal users differs. A power user won't take the time to open a browser and click an address bar. He will do a windows key + R Type www.(the web site).com press enter and be done with it. Additionally, countless Windows programs depend on this functionality as this allows them to ensure they open the default browser instead of figuring out what browsers users have installed (the app sends the url to the API as if it were a file to execute). So it isn't that arcane or odd. .... SERIOUSLY... you don't code for a living do you... I'm not sure if you're serious or not... But if you are... I'd recommend you read some of the fundamentals of the craft such as Hunt's The Pragmatic Programmer and understand why the DRY Principal he mentions is considered a fundamental part of software engineering. You can also Google it... But actually learning the concepts is far more important. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Warwagon MVC Posted December 13, 2012 MVC Share Posted December 13, 2012 If your mouse is so slow, then should you not increase the tracking speed? and if hands are already on the keyboard it's slower just to take your hands off the keyboard and put it on the mouse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+LogicalApex MVC Posted December 13, 2012 MVC Share Posted December 13, 2012 Another difference between Search and Run, with run, you HAVE to know the filepath. Let's be honest, no one, and I mean no one, remembers file paths, no do they want to sit there and type them out, when Search works faster and more efficiently. Actually, no you don't. Any application whose path is in the PATH environment variable or in the APP_PATH registry key will launch just by typing the executable name. Try it yourself... Type "Winword" to open MS Word or "Firefox" to open Firefox. Works like a charm. MorganX and Brandon H 2 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BajiRav Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 , Even if the web browser was open it's much slower to bring the app back in focus and click the address bar, than it is to use the run box with windows key + R switch with alt+tab/winkey+# and then press F4 to jump to the address bar :p (only if you use IE though) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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