Jim K Global Moderator Posted December 10, 2013 Global Moderator Share Posted December 10, 2013 No, It's useless. It's been superseded by a new launcher with greater functionality. Your opinion. I've actually used it a lot more lately as it came installed on my new notebook. With that said, my opinion is that it is completely useless (I do not care about the updating tiles), unnecessarily takes over the desktop and is a launcher that impedes functionality. Quick Launch is more efficient then the Start Screen at launching applications. Some of us would rather have a native start menu which can be enabled/disabled by preference. Microsoft really tried to alienate its end user base by attempting to shove this unfinished (it seems) operating system down our throats. The obvious reason (my opinion) is to increase their revenue by having people purchase applications at the Windows app store....and of course revenue from ads in applications that came with Windows 8. It's been showing it's limitations since at least the later XP days. :no: I'm going to laugh so hard if Microsoft does bring it back...and then I'll move away from Windows 7. Lord Method Man 1 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1135456-do-you-want-the-start-menu-in-windows-8/page/18/#findComment-596154307 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Growled Member Posted December 10, 2013 Member Share Posted December 10, 2013 Start menus is what we need back. Start screen is totally useless and inefficient way of doing things. I think it depends on how you use your computer. I can see the start screen being helpful for some people. I am primary a desktop user and the start screen isn't for me either. It's not a big deal since I can install third party software and get it just the way I want. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1135456-do-you-want-the-start-menu-in-windows-8/page/18/#findComment-596154323 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolo Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 When will people at Microsoft realize that the problem isn't the Start Button or the Start Menu? The issue is more complicated that a stupid button with a logo or a little box with icons on the bottom left corner. I've using Windows 8 since the launch last year. Now, I'm using 8.1. Two minutes. That is the longest time that I've been on a Metro App. And it was the Weather. The problem people, is Metro. Please open the eyes, and start living in the real world: That full screen UI is irrelevant on a personal computer with mouse and keyboard. That's why people ask the start menu back. It's because NOBODY wants a Full Screen App on a computer, unless is a Desktop App maximized. it's pointless. Cheers. Lord Method Man 1 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1135456-do-you-want-the-start-menu-in-windows-8/page/18/#findComment-596154329 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dot Matrix Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 When will people at Microsoft realize that the problem isn't the Start Button or the Start Menu? The issue is more complicated that a stupid button with a logo or a little box with icons on the bottom left corner. I've using Windows 8 since the launch last year. Now, I'm using 8.1. Two minutes. That is the longest time that I've been on a Metro App. And it was the Weather. The problem people, is Metro. Please open the eyes, and start living in the real world: That full screen UI is irrelevant on a personal computer with mouse and keyboard. That's why people ask the start menu back. It's because NOBODY wants a Full Screen App on a computer, unless is a Desktop App maximized. it's pointless. Cheers. Um. I know a TON of industry specific users that run full screen apps 24/7. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1135456-do-you-want-the-start-menu-in-windows-8/page/18/#findComment-596154357 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidM Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 Um. I know a TON of industry specific users that run full screen apps 24/7. Metro Apps? What "Industry Specific" Metro apps are there, that are better than their Windows counterparts? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1135456-do-you-want-the-start-menu-in-windows-8/page/18/#findComment-596154389 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Growled Member Posted December 10, 2013 Member Share Posted December 10, 2013 Um. I know a TON of industry specific users that run full screen apps 24/7. For example? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1135456-do-you-want-the-start-menu-in-windows-8/page/18/#findComment-596154421 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dot Matrix Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 Metro Apps? What "Industry Specific" Metro apps are there, that are better than their Windows counterparts? For example? They're not metro apps, but when I studied meteorology, we had screens full of radar and other weather programs running full screen. When I worked retail, our systems (running Windows 7) were designed to all run fullscreen. You couldn't restore down, only maximize or minimize. In fact, our regular PCs were setup in such a way that you could compare the company's dashboard (that the systems booted into by design) to the start screen. Do a search online and you'll see traffic controllers, flight controllers, etc all running programs full screen. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1135456-do-you-want-the-start-menu-in-windows-8/page/18/#findComment-596154441 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaotic Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 I don't really care if they bring it back. I rarely use the start menu anyway. I use the search more than anything else because it's faster . But most of the time i just click the icon on my desktop or bar. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1135456-do-you-want-the-start-menu-in-windows-8/page/18/#findComment-596154483 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dot Matrix Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 When will people at Microsoft realize that the problem isn't the Start Button or the Start Menu? The issue is more complicated that a stupid button with a logo or a little box with icons on the bottom left corner. I've using Windows 8 since the launch last year. Now, I'm using 8.1. Two minutes. That is the longest time that I've been on a Metro App. And it was the Weather. The problem people, is Metro. Please open the eyes, and start living in the real world: That full screen UI is irrelevant on a personal computer with mouse and keyboard. That's why people ask the start menu back. It's because NOBODY wants a Full Screen App on a computer, unless is a Desktop App maximized. it's pointless. Cheers. Also, that's a nice little way of creating an out for yourself there, too. Too bad it doesn't work. A full screen app is still a full screen app. I guess Microsoft should remove the F11 functionality, and the maximize button since no one wants full screen functionality? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1135456-do-you-want-the-start-menu-in-windows-8/page/18/#findComment-596154487 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick H. Supervisor Posted December 10, 2013 Supervisor Share Posted December 10, 2013 My opinion hasn't changed, if they brought it back I would be more willing to give Windows 8 a go. I just want the ability to be able to avoid Metro if I can help it. Lord Method Man, The Evil Overlord and Jim K 3 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1135456-do-you-want-the-start-menu-in-windows-8/page/18/#findComment-596154693 Share on other sites More sharing options...
1ON Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 No - Use tiles for a little while and you wont miss it!! Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1135456-do-you-want-the-start-menu-in-windows-8/page/18/#findComment-596154719 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Warwagon MVC Posted December 10, 2013 Author MVC Share Posted December 10, 2013 It looks like the "yes" is leading the pack by 69 votes! People will say "Well this is a tech site, we aren't the average user" ... let me tell you, if a large number of technically inclined individuals want it back then the technically challenged DEFIANTLY wants it back. Knife Party and Growled 2 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1135456-do-you-want-the-start-menu-in-windows-8/page/18/#findComment-596155367 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Method Man Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 It looks like the "yes" is leading the pack by 69 votes! People will say "Well this is a tech site, we aren't the average user" ... let me tell you, if a large number of technically inclined individuals want it back then the technically challenged DEFIANTLY wants it back. Not only that, but this place is a sanctuary for Windows 8 apologists; and even here the opinion is 'Yes.' Astra.Xtreme 1 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1135456-do-you-want-the-start-menu-in-windows-8/page/18/#findComment-596155387 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Majesticmerc MVC Posted December 10, 2013 MVC Share Posted December 10, 2013 Running Windows 8.1 I can say that I don't really want the start menu back now. Booting to desktop + start button removed my grievances. The start screen itself is a good idea personally. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1135456-do-you-want-the-start-menu-in-windows-8/page/18/#findComment-596155403 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arceles Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 In all honestly, I don't want them EVER mess with the desktop again, new interfaces? great if SIDELOADED not forced. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1135456-do-you-want-the-start-menu-in-windows-8/page/18/#findComment-596155413 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WAQT Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 Changed my vote from Yes to No. I do not want the start menu back... Using StartIsGone on Windows 8.1 to remove it. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1135456-do-you-want-the-start-menu-in-windows-8/page/18/#findComment-596155415 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Growled Member Posted December 11, 2013 Member Share Posted December 11, 2013 It looks like the "yes" is leading the pack by 69 votes! People will say "Well this is a tech site, we aren't the average user" ... let me tell you, if a large number of technically inclined individuals want it back then the technically challenged DEFIANTLY wants it back. Exactly. There is no denying (rationally anyway) that a lot of people want it back. I read a rumor on Threshold, the next version of Windows, that MS is considering putting the start button back in. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1135456-do-you-want-the-start-menu-in-windows-8/page/18/#findComment-596156605 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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