+Audioboxer Subscriber² Posted February 21, 2013 Subscriber² Share Posted February 21, 2013 additional camera utility to sense depth Ergonomically pleasing, aesthetically boring. It's how it feels in my hands that counts though. I also have seen people on the front page talking about controller costs due to a touch screen, it is not a screen, simply a pad. A clickable one as well at that. I will try to find a youtube video of the share button being demoed. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1137636-the-new-dualshock-ps4-controller-touch-pad-not-screen/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
compl3x Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 Yeah, certainly looks boring, but that is the least of my concerns. Where exactly is that share button? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1137636-the-new-dualshock-ps4-controller-touch-pad-not-screen/#findComment-595533578 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Audioboxer Subscriber² Posted February 21, 2013 Author Subscriber² Share Posted February 21, 2013 Yeah, certainly looks boring, but that is the least of my concerns. Where exactly is that share button? Added new pictures that show it Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1137636-the-new-dualshock-ps4-controller-touch-pad-not-screen/#findComment-595533580 Share on other sites More sharing options...
compl3x Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 Cool. Thanks. So the start/select buttons have been abandoned in favour of the options/share button? Those higher res images actually make it look pretty comfy to hold. Random question:do we know if current PS3 controllers will be compatible with a PS4. I imagine they would be? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1137636-the-new-dualshock-ps4-controller-touch-pad-not-screen/#findComment-595533588 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Audioboxer Subscriber² Posted February 21, 2013 Author Subscriber² Share Posted February 21, 2013 Obviously fan made, but possibly a fairly good comparison Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1137636-the-new-dualshock-ps4-controller-touch-pad-not-screen/#findComment-595533706 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snake89 Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 I don't know about anyone else, but i kinda like the new controller. LaP, dead.cell, DrakeN2k and 4 others 7 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1137636-the-new-dualshock-ps4-controller-touch-pad-not-screen/#findComment-595533718 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DPyro Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 Find it odd they flipped the lettering on the triggers. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1137636-the-new-dualshock-ps4-controller-touch-pad-not-screen/#findComment-595533822 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon H Supervisor Posted February 21, 2013 Supervisor Share Posted February 21, 2013 Find it odd they flipped the lettering on the triggers. odd but makes sense, since if you're gonna look at the triggers you're gonna tilt the controller towards you as you're holding it Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1137636-the-new-dualshock-ps4-controller-touch-pad-not-screen/#findComment-595533836 Share on other sites More sharing options...
nub Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 How are you suppose to use the touchpad? It seems awkward to try to get your thumbs to it. I'd like to hold it. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1137636-the-new-dualshock-ps4-controller-touch-pad-not-screen/#findComment-595533860 Share on other sites More sharing options...
soniqstylz Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 I will try to find a youtube video of the share button being demoed. https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=113171115535029&set=vb.100005264234406&type=2&theater That's the vid from Killzone that was "shared" right after it was shown (supposedly). Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1137636-the-new-dualshock-ps4-controller-touch-pad-not-screen/#findComment-595533890 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davo Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 Hopefully it won't hurt to hold it anymore Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1137636-the-new-dualshock-ps4-controller-touch-pad-not-screen/#findComment-595533898 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arceles Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 It looks sexy.... Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1137636-the-new-dualshock-ps4-controller-touch-pad-not-screen/#findComment-595534094 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Evil Overlord Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 Not sure about this one, I'll probably love it, but in my case, the DS3 was fine. I also understand that there are users that have difficulty using it because it is a large controller and isn't assymmetrical, (by this I mean like the xbox controller that many consider superior) also unsure about the placement of the share button, could be panic for nothing... Question, have they done away with 'start' and 'select'? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1137636-the-new-dualshock-ps4-controller-touch-pad-not-screen/#findComment-595534102 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dead.cell Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 I don't know about anyone else, but i kinda like the new controller. Agreed. Actually looks sexy and more designed around the hands than the PS3 controller. I've long considered the 360 controller to be superior, but I'll have to see how this holds up hands on with the controller. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1137636-the-new-dualshock-ps4-controller-touch-pad-not-screen/#findComment-595534114 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hitman2000 Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 The Current PS3 controller is fine, and as I said on the main page, I hate it when companies feel compelled to make change for the sake of change. And this feels exactly like that, it wont have any practical use but sure as hell will raise the price and maybe make it more awkward to use... I cant see how your mean to use this along with the analog sticks with your thumb constantly hitting them.. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1137636-the-new-dualshock-ps4-controller-touch-pad-not-screen/#findComment-595534128 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaron Olive Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 The Current PS3 controller is fine, and as I said on the main page, I hate it when companies feel compelled to make change for the sake of change. And this feels exactly like that, it wont have any practical use but sure as hell will raise the price and maybe make it more awkward to use... I cant see how your mean to use this along with the analog sticks with your thumb constantly hitting them.. This is definitely not the case1. The controller has been made much wider and the sticks are further apart for those with larger hands. 2. The vibration motors have been made larger for more intense rumble feedback. (which was said on stage). 3. The DS4 has a bigger 1000mAh battery for longer use. (Newer DS3's have 500mAh originally 300mAh). 4. The grips have been extended and rubberized for a better fit. 5. The controller has a headphone jack for the bundled headset. (just like the Xbox 360) 6. The L2/R2 triggers have been refined and made concave for a better feel. 7. The dual analog sticks are concave now and have new mechanics. (albeit to reduce dead zones). 8. The D-pad buttons have been made larger. So how in the hell is this change for the sake of change? all of these things are major improvements that benefit the experience for the user. p1p3 and Brandon H 2 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1137636-the-new-dualshock-ps4-controller-touch-pad-not-screen/#findComment-595534154 Share on other sites More sharing options...
soniqstylz Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 Re: #5 It's a 3.5mm jack, I believe, which means I bet they won't bundle a headset, but you can use pretty much any headset you want. Also thought of something this morning -- the inclusion of a PSEye and 'Move' control could be a way to keep "SixaxiS" functionality (especially for any BC games) without including the gyroscope. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1137636-the-new-dualshock-ps4-controller-touch-pad-not-screen/#findComment-595534400 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Audioboxer Subscriber² Posted February 21, 2013 Author Subscriber² Share Posted February 21, 2013 Re: #5 It's a 3.5mm jack, I believe, which means I bet they won't bundle a headset, but you can use pretty much any headset you want. Also thought of something this morning -- the inclusion of a PSEye and 'Move' control could be a way to keep "SixaxiS" functionality (especially for any BC games) without including the gyroscope. They are bundling a headset, it's mentioned in the full PS4 specs topic. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1137636-the-new-dualshock-ps4-controller-touch-pad-not-screen/#findComment-595534402 Share on other sites More sharing options...
soniqstylz Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 They are bundling a headset, it's mentioned in the full PS4 specs topic. touche, sir. So, updated controller, bundled PSEye, bundled headset, 8GB DDR5...... I wager $449 at minumum. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1137636-the-new-dualshock-ps4-controller-touch-pad-not-screen/#findComment-595534416 Share on other sites More sharing options...
compl3x Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 I think it is only going to be a Mono headset, correct? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1137636-the-new-dualshock-ps4-controller-touch-pad-not-screen/#findComment-595534948 Share on other sites More sharing options...
torrentthief Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 You seem to be missing a high res photo of this, enjoy: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1137636-the-new-dualshock-ps4-controller-touch-pad-not-screen/#findComment-595534964 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astra.Xtreme Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 Hopefully it won't hurt to hold it anymore It will since you still have to bend your thumb in an unnatural way to get to the thumbstick. Xbox figured that out, so I'm surprised Sony didn't copy the same style. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1137636-the-new-dualshock-ps4-controller-touch-pad-not-screen/#findComment-595534972 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arceles Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 It will since you still have to bend your thumb in an unnatural way to get to the thumbstick. Xbox figured that out, so I'm surprised Sony didn't copy the same style. Sorry but I find it more comfortable this way, as it has always been since the PSX era, also I fin more natural to use the directional buttons to navigate through menus. Brandon H 1 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1137636-the-new-dualshock-ps4-controller-touch-pad-not-screen/#findComment-595535058 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astra.Xtreme Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 Sorry but I find it more comfortable this way, as it has always been since the PSX era, also I fin more natural to use the directional buttons to navigate through menus. Well every controller has directional controls, so the user can navigate however they'd like. But when you hold onto the controller, your thumbs naturally point upwards. And since you almost always use the left thumbstick, it would make sense to put it in the area your thumb locates to naturally. Since Sony fails to cater to this, playing a game for over and hour and having to keep your thumb stretched and pivoted causes quite a bit of discomfort. Xbox doesn't have such issues. Yeah I get that they are simply going by the legacy designs, but it's smarter to design around the natural bends and curves of hand. I'll definitely admit that the PS4 controller alone will be the reason why I don't even consider buying it. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1137636-the-new-dualshock-ps4-controller-touch-pad-not-screen/#findComment-595535076 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arceles Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 Well every controller has directional controls, so the user can navigate however they'd like. But when you hold onto the controller, your thumbs naturally point upwards. And since you almost always use the left thumbstick, it would make sense to put it in the area your thumb locates to naturally. Since Sony fails to cater to this, playing a game for over and hour and having to keep your thumb stretched and pivoted causes quite a bit of discomfort. Xbox doesn't have such issues. Yeah I get that they are simply going by the legacy designs, but it's smarter to design around the natural bends and curves of hand. I'll definitely admit that the PS4 controller alone will be the reason why I don't even consider buying it. My thumb... as well the thumbs of my friends doesn't point upwards, the natural relaxed position is actually an angled one, if you ask me, microsoft did put the directional buttons where the analog should go by two reasons: 1.- they wanted to differentiate from their competitors (note how nintendo with his classic controller addon for wii has also the same layout as sony, wii u is another matter) 2.- they directional buttons are plainly bad, they put the analog stick upwards so that you would focus on it rather than the legacy directional buttons. BTW, I play games since atari 2600 was released, every single controller that I've hold has the directional buttons where the dualshock 4 has them. And the controller alone is reason for me to go and buy it, I use my DualShock 3 for non FPS games on the PC and it rocks (I find the triggers not perfect but they are alright by me, allowing me to play games like grid or Dirt 3 on full manual) if anything, I think that's the first thing I'll buy when it's released, since I only intent to buy the PS3 after a Tales or Falcom game is released for it (Or less probably, any Guity Gear Series) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1137636-the-new-dualshock-ps4-controller-touch-pad-not-screen/#findComment-595535122 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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