Detection Posted April 7, 2013 Share Posted April 7, 2013 Out of interest, what kind of things has Paul get wrong? I always thought he was quite reliable, but I'm probably very wrong! :) I used to think that too, most recent thing I can remember was him telling everyone that Windows Phone 8 was going to be called Windows 8 Phone, he made a point of the naming change in one of his Windows Weekly episodes on Twit.tv He doesn't seem to have much more of a connection to MS that we do, he just makes a big public point of the things he knows, many of which are just tips and rumours and leaks that we can all find easily enough ourselves Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1145856-paul-thurrott-next-xbox-is-expensive-500-or-300-for-sub/page/2/#findComment-595623228 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MorganX Posted April 7, 2013 Share Posted April 7, 2013 Assuming the rumours are true though, $300 is A LOT of money for a subscription device I actually think Paul has his numbers backwards. $99 seems more like the subscription device. And $500 would be a box Microsoft doesn't really want to sell but wants to provide a DRM free option just to cover that base. I may not even go next gen console and stay with PC. The only for sure buy, is if there's an adapter to use the Xbox wireless controller with PS4. That I'll probably buy. Haven't heard anything about Bluetooth for Next Xbox, I think they won't do it just to make it tougher to use the controller on Playstation. They know in the US the controller is a big deal. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1145856-paul-thurrott-next-xbox-is-expensive-500-or-300-for-sub/page/2/#findComment-595623282 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NightmarE D Posted April 7, 2013 Share Posted April 7, 2013 Out of interest, what kind of things has Paul get wrong? I always thought he was quite reliable, but I'm probably very wrong! :) Google around and find his pathetic "boycott IE 7" rant from when it was first being worked on. He threw huge hissy-fits because he didn't have any story on it. Eventually the IE Team got soo sick of it that he was contacted by them and got an exclusive out of it and he's been doing it since. He whines and whines, sometimes spouts complete lies, until someone gets tried of it ands contacts him with info. Pure laziness. How he gets any respect in the tech world is beyond my comprehension. Not to mention he's very full of himself. He once used (or still does? Not sure) small images of his face as his rating system on his site. Come on. Really? It wasn't done jokingly. He just loves seeing his face everywhere. Prove him wrong on something he has said. Watch how fast he flips out or ignores you. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1145856-paul-thurrott-next-xbox-is-expensive-500-or-300-for-sub/page/2/#findComment-595623296 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bgjerlow Posted April 7, 2013 Share Posted April 7, 2013 Not really surprised by this. If the next Xbox is anything like the 360, it will be well worth the money. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1145856-paul-thurrott-next-xbox-is-expensive-500-or-300-for-sub/page/2/#findComment-595623314 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisj1968 Posted April 7, 2013 Share Posted April 7, 2013 I think... If MS wanted to innovate in the realm of the console,do what they were doing with Windows8. why not integrate xbox libraries and have the users utilize their HDMI ports and bluetooth to use controllers? save on tons of R&D, integrate and ensure xbox proliferation with every OS system purchase. there are only two teams for graphics, Nvidia and AMD/ATI... then you'd have windows tablt, windows OS and xbox under one roof. have a dedicated app in the realm of say media center or attach it to the media center feature or an alone standing product within the windows OS? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1145856-paul-thurrott-next-xbox-is-expensive-500-or-300-for-sub/page/2/#findComment-595623322 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Growled Member Posted April 8, 2013 Member Share Posted April 8, 2013 Assuming the rumours are true though, $300 is A LOT of money for a subscription device, especially if the PS4 is going to release at the same price without any subscription BS. That's the way I see it too. I sometimes wonder if Microsoft hasn't lost their freaking minds with a lot of their recent decisions. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1145856-paul-thurrott-next-xbox-is-expensive-500-or-300-for-sub/page/2/#findComment-595623454 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MorganX Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 [/size] That's the way I see it too. I sometimes wonder if Microsoft hasn't lost their freaking minds with a lot of their recent decisions. When you get to be the size of Microsoft, your mind is made up not necessarily by customers' wants, needs, and desires, but by the pressure from shareholders who want more profits returned, as quickly and as often as possible, Growled 1 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1145856-paul-thurrott-next-xbox-is-expensive-500-or-300-for-sub/page/2/#findComment-595623494 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Growled Member Posted April 8, 2013 Member Share Posted April 8, 2013 When you get to be the size of Microsoft, our mind is made up not necessarily by customers wants, needs, & desires, but by the pressure form shareholders who want more profits returned, as quickly and as often as possible, That's true, sad to say. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1145856-paul-thurrott-next-xbox-is-expensive-500-or-300-for-sub/page/2/#findComment-595623500 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nashy Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 Microsoft have turned into arrogant *******s. The sooner someone released a Linux distro worth having the ****ing better. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1145856-paul-thurrott-next-xbox-is-expensive-500-or-300-for-sub/page/2/#findComment-595623514 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Growled Member Posted April 8, 2013 Member Share Posted April 8, 2013 Microsoft have turned into arrogant *******s. The sooner someone released a Linux distro worth having the ****ing better. If you're waiting on Linux to save you, you may have a long wait. Mohitster, Duffydemon, BajiRav and 1 other 4 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1145856-paul-thurrott-next-xbox-is-expensive-500-or-300-for-sub/page/2/#findComment-595623574 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+virtorio MVC Posted April 8, 2013 MVC Share Posted April 8, 2013 Does this man have any actual real sources left, or does he just rehash what he reads on rumour sites? That said, sounds plausible. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1145856-paul-thurrott-next-xbox-is-expensive-500-or-300-for-sub/page/2/#findComment-595623578 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nashy Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 If you're waiting on Linux to save you, you may have a long wait. It's depressing really. I honestly think Windows 8 is garbage. dead.cell 1 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1145856-paul-thurrott-next-xbox-is-expensive-500-or-300-for-sub/page/2/#findComment-595623622 Share on other sites More sharing options...
(Account no longer active) Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 A $99 360 will outsell the next Xbox (and everything else) easily. I can't see it happening though. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1145856-paul-thurrott-next-xbox-is-expensive-500-or-300-for-sub/page/2/#findComment-595623632 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Warwagon MVC Posted April 8, 2013 MVC Share Posted April 8, 2013 Lets not forget when the Xbox 360 launched in 2005 it retailed for $400. New consoles cost more than 7 years old ones. Who would have thought! BajiRav 1 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1145856-paul-thurrott-next-xbox-is-expensive-500-or-300-for-sub/page/2/#findComment-595623636 Share on other sites More sharing options...
compl3x Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 PS3 costs around 500$ in India, and i expect PS4 to be at same price when it launches here. Xbox was cheaper though, will wait for official price announcement as i am really thinking to buy a new console this year. Wait. PS3s are currently $500 in India and you think when Sony releases their new console it is also going to be $500? So a PS3 and a PS4 will be the same price? :huh: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1145856-paul-thurrott-next-xbox-is-expensive-500-or-300-for-sub/page/2/#findComment-595623650 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duffydemon Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 Wait. PS3s are currently $500 in India and you think when Sony releases their new console it is also going to be $500? So a PS3 and a PS4 will be the same price? :huh: PS3 was $500 when it was released here, and still is, Xbox360 outsell PS3 with long margin here. So IMO PS4 will be of same price. ( Maybe sony will discontinue selling PS3? ) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1145856-paul-thurrott-next-xbox-is-expensive-500-or-300-for-sub/page/2/#findComment-595623686 Share on other sites More sharing options...
George P Global Moderator Posted April 8, 2013 Global Moderator Share Posted April 8, 2013 If each new Xbox comes with a new Kinect 2.0 sensor then a higher price makes sense. The 360 started off at $399 iirc and that was without Kinect so who knows? A cheaper 360 model I bet will be sold as a media device and not so much a game system. I wouldn't be surprised if they did do it and ditch the dvd drive in the process and have it be a apple tv/ roku competitor. We'll know for sure in May, but one things for sure, they'll keep the 360 around at least one more year. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1145856-paul-thurrott-next-xbox-is-expensive-500-or-300-for-sub/page/2/#findComment-595623844 Share on other sites More sharing options...
compl3x Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 ( Maybe sony will discontinue selling PS3? ) Highly doubtful. Sony only recently stopped manufacturing PS2s. A price drop is the common approach. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1145856-paul-thurrott-next-xbox-is-expensive-500-or-300-for-sub/page/2/#findComment-595623858 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawkMan Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 They'll probably keep it around long enough for Sony to choke on their 10 year promises. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1145856-paul-thurrott-next-xbox-is-expensive-500-or-300-for-sub/page/2/#findComment-595623860 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BajiRav Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 Wait. PS3s are currently $500 in India and you think when Sony releases their new console it is also going to be $500? So a PS3 and a PS4 will be the same price? :huh: Indian prices are typically inflated (due to taxes and duties), I won't be surprised if Sony doesn't officially introduce PS4 until rev2 or later. IIRC PS2 was officially introduced just when PS3 was getting ready to launch in the US. Same with Microsoft - even today, the basic Xbox 360 is something like ?16,000+ which is roughly $320+ (compared to $199 in the US). Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1145856-paul-thurrott-next-xbox-is-expensive-500-or-300-for-sub/page/2/#findComment-595624714 Share on other sites More sharing options...
(Spork) Posted April 9, 2013 Share Posted April 9, 2013 until its officially announced its still just rumors .... please let it be rumors .... PLEASE .. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1145856-paul-thurrott-next-xbox-is-expensive-500-or-300-for-sub/page/2/#findComment-595625954 Share on other sites More sharing options...
watchthisspace Posted April 9, 2013 Share Posted April 9, 2013 This could be a very clever ploy by Paul to get everyone up and arm's about this rumor, Microsoft's sees this and the next Xbox is priced accordingly with no always-online requirement. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1145856-paul-thurrott-next-xbox-is-expensive-500-or-300-for-sub/page/2/#findComment-595625958 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadrack Posted April 26, 2013 Share Posted April 26, 2013 My wild and baseless prediction: $499 "everything included package" (2 wireless controllers and a game) $399 slimmed down package (just 1 wired controller, no game) $299 - Get the $499 package with subscription Next wild and baseless prediction: Whatever the release price is, it will probably stay the same for at least 1.5 years more likely 2 years. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1145856-paul-thurrott-next-xbox-is-expensive-500-or-300-for-sub/page/2/#findComment-595659996 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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