WxAxGxS Posted November 11, 2003 Share Posted November 11, 2003 I just installed Windows Server 2003 Standard Edition on a system with the following specs: Athlon XP 1900+ 1GB PC2100 RAM SOYO Dragon Plus KT266A ATI RADEON AIW 8500DV 64MB WD 80GB HDD I am having issues enabling hardware acceleration (directdraw and the like) Now, I haven't run 2003 until now and I was unaware that they had disabled this sort of functionality by default. The first thing I did when i installed Server was run WINDOWS UPDATE, installed DX9b and then the ATI drivers. Now, when i installed 3.9 Catalyst, the system messed up. I could only boot into safe mode. I deleted all traces of the drivers and I coudl boot fine. I then found this site and tried changing hardware acceleration, but I found that when i went into 'DXDIAG', the DIRECTDRAW and other settings were grayed out and labeled as "N/A" I can't for the life of me figure out how to fix this and any assistance is MUCH APPRECIATED! Thank in advance, WAGS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prelude76 Posted November 11, 2003 Share Posted November 11, 2003 i'm gonna try to respond before you get flamed. ;) right click on desktop, Properties, click Settings, then Advanced still with me? great. then go to Troubleshooting and slide bar all the way to the right side to Full Acceleration. next time you go to DirectX, all those items you mentioned should no longer be grayed out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WxAxGxS Posted November 11, 2003 Author Share Posted November 11, 2003 No, that's hte problem.. They still are.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted November 11, 2003 Share Posted November 11, 2003 None of the jobs 2003 Server is for require hardware acceleration, so just go back to XP and play your games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WxAxGxS Posted November 11, 2003 Author Share Posted November 11, 2003 None of them do, no... But as I've got an AIW in there, i'd like the ability to use it.... Reason I haven't bothered sticking 2k3 on here earlier is cuz i'm a lazy college student :) This is my 5th box right now and I'd like it to be able to run both as a dedicated fileserver/gameserver but also as an extra gaming box for when I have guests. It has more than enough power to play anything, so, why not use it if there is opportunity, right? oh, and btw.. I don't play games... well not very often at least, but yes that's one of the things i'd like this to be able to do... But i'm more looking at the more appropriate uses for an AIW card... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WxAxGxS Posted November 11, 2003 Author Share Posted November 11, 2003 Alright, I have gotten DirectDraw and Direct3d Acceleration to work, however AGP Texture Accelerator is still set as "not available" (no help to you worthless naysayers who really just don't know how to help so they post bs remarks) I found that for some reason my AGP port was only set at 2x so I went and fixed that and tweaked my BIOS a bit more. I'm not sure what else Is going wrong here, but any input is much appreciated. Thank you Prelude for at least trying to help :) ::EDIT:: BTW, i'm running Catalyst 3.6 currently because the Catalyst 3.7/3.9 (ones i tested) result in bluescreens of death when I try to boot. I'm assuming this is an issue with driver incompatibilyt (with OS) and not a hardware issue? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prelude76 Posted November 11, 2003 Share Posted November 11, 2003 i'm not sure about Catalyst and win2k3 as i have nvidia myself. i'd recommend searching google to see if others have had issues with catalyst and win2k3. as far as i know, all i had to do was turn Hardware Accleration in Screen Properties to the max, the loaded latest nvidia drivers, then i loaded directx 9.0b and enabled all the accelerations in DirectX. I'm not too sure why AGP is still grayed out in yer case. :| did you load the latest VIA Hyperion drivers? it does something with AGP drivers, i think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WxAxGxS Posted November 11, 2003 Author Share Posted November 11, 2003 Thanks, I'll check out the VIA stuff :) Yes, I've searchd extensively and haven't found any info related to my particular issue. The hardware acceleration fix worked for both ATI and NVIDIA... I believe my issue has to do with the fact that either (a) i'm running an AIW or (b) i'm running a SOYO mobo.. which is definately a bad idea.. of course, it's in my possession and i had the parts.. so why put em to waste, eh? :) If I figure out how to fix it, i'll post a tutorial.. maybe it'll help those who have had similar issues but just gave up... Or.. at least it'll be more **** to use as an excuse not to study for finals and finish papers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prelude76 Posted November 11, 2003 Share Posted November 11, 2003 yeah, if SOYO uses VIA, i'd give VIA drivers a shot. it saved my hide a couple of times. with an old Matrox G400, i used to BSOD every single time until i updated the AGP Via Drivers, and recently, my CDRW and win2k3 choked whenever i was online at the same time, until i installed VIA IDE drivers, which somehow fixed that problem too. I dont think MS does enough testing with VIA chipsets as they do with Intel chipsets, so we have to rely on VIA to give us the correct system drivers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WxAxGxS Posted November 11, 2003 Author Share Posted November 11, 2003 Yeah, i've got the Soyo Dragon Plus (VIA) KT266A board in the 2k3 system I installed the new Hyperion drivers but haven't been able to test it.. I'm in class now... And apparenlty remote desktop in remote desktop doesn't work very well (not M$ remote desktop, vnc naturally :) ), so i'll test it when I get back (prolly in 2 hours or so) I can't wait to get this system up 'n' running... I've got my XP box, my Gentoo box, my redhat/beos box, my xp/linux lappy, and now a 2k3 box :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WxAxGxS Posted November 11, 2003 Author Share Posted November 11, 2003 Nope, didn't help :-/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Veteran Posted November 12, 2003 Veteran Share Posted November 12, 2003 I just installed Windows Server 2003 Standard Edition on a system with the following specs:Athlon XP 1900+ 1GB PC2100 RAM SOYO Dragon Plus KT266A ATI RADEON AIW 8500DV 64MB WD 80GB HDD what kind of load balancers do you have in this server? how many users are connected via terminal services? do you have asp.net installed with IIS? now that i think about it, directdraw shouldn't be needed at all on a server... in fact, if you can show me one thing that needs directdraw on this page then i apologize, but it doesn't seem that a server needs directdraw acceleration enabled. :whistle: ok, enough with the smart ass comments :laugh: but really, this OS is meant for servers. because it's different than xp, not all drivers will work on server 2003. some will, but you should expect that a driver won't work for server 2003 unless it's approved by microsoft or the manufacturer for use with server 2003. try uninstalling your ati drivers and use generic drivers from the windows cd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WxAxGxS Posted November 12, 2003 Author Share Posted November 12, 2003 I know that... But like I said, I'm trying to see what i can take advantage of with this operating system. It wasn't *designed* for a server, but that doesn't mean it's all it can do. Yes, it's going to be a server.. Hell no i'm not going to run IIS or ASP.net. i'll run something a little more stable and a little more robust. As for load balancing, i have 2 Gb ethernet nics running ot a Gb switch as well as the embedded 100Mbit running to my machine. As for terminal services, I've been experimenting with some tings but I really have no need. Enough with that though... I asked for help if there is a possibility that this works. I'm not looking for smartass comments because people can't seem to see past their own big nose. I'm trying to push the Operating system and maximize its utility. Its utility as a server is rather limiting for me. I can do all that on my gentoo box. As for gaming video and graphics, i can do a lot more with this machine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkmark327 Posted November 12, 2003 Share Posted November 12, 2003 Have you successfully installed the AIW with your motherboard with XP? The existence of my computer in my sig is because VIA chipsets don't like ATI video cards apparently. And you don't need server unless you plan on having > 10 concurrent clients. As for game serving, I found XP to be better; I could join my dedicated server from the same machine with XP (SOF2) but not so with server. (I actually have reason to use it, so don't call me a hypocrite...it's just more trouble than its worth to get it to act as a workstation too. Those who say it's easier to get it as a fully functional workstation than to trim down XP are retarded.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Veteran Posted November 12, 2003 Veteran Share Posted November 12, 2003 why not leave your server for serving and play games on another system, made strictly for games? :huh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WxAxGxS Posted November 12, 2003 Author Share Posted November 12, 2003 I do... I just wanted to see if I coudl do it. My gaming system runs a 9800PRO, so it's not like i'm gonna be moving over to an 8500 for performance. It's just an option for if we need an extra gaming machien as well as an extra machine for graphics and movies and the like.. not to mention just playing around with. DARKMAN, to answer your question, yes the ATI worked fine with the board under XP. It had some issues but I found those to be issues with the board itself and not a mobo/vidcard issue (same issue with my old GF3 TI500 when i used this board as my primary box). It had nothign to do with performance but just a little pet peave that I could never change the settings even if i wanted to. Also, I often will have 10+ clients... I'm going to utilize some RAID once i add a couple more harddrives (which i have laying around and i'm too lazy to install and set up) which will function as a fileserver. On top of that, I'm going to be runnig a webserver and 2 game servers (2x1Gb to switch (connected to my equipment.. workstation and a few other servers) to 100Mbit lan to DualOC3 WAN)... So all in all, it'll have to handle between 5 and 80 clients at any given time.... I've got the bandwidth.. not sure about the server power now matter how i implement it :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prelude76 Posted November 12, 2003 Share Posted November 12, 2003 it's just more trouble than its worth to get it to act as a workstation too. Those who say it's easier to get it as a fully functional workstation than to trim down XP are retarded. ** SIGH ** another thread ruined by the 'Darkman' :rolleyes: ok, since i'm a 'RETARD' by your definition, let me spell it out for you in a RETARDED way: Win2003 --> Gaming platform 1. Install win2003 2. Install 5 patches 3. turn on hardware acceleration 4. install Win2003 optimizer utility and tweak a few settings 5. install direct x 9.0b 6. play games WinXP --> Gaming platform 1. Install winXP 2. apply 50 patches 3. go thru annoying 'Welcome' screen 4. disable welcome screen 5. tweak registry to nuke MSN messenger from auto-launching 6. turn off messenger service 7. disable XP themes 8. disable ultra-gay new Start menu 9. install tweak UI and tweak away 10. install half a dozen other utilities and tweak away 11. play games 12. get BSOD, curse, reboot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkmark327 Posted November 12, 2003 Share Posted November 12, 2003 ** SIGH **? another thread ruined by the 'Darkman'?:rolleyes:s: ok, since i'm a 'RETARD' by your definition, let me spell it out for you in a RETARDED way: Win2003 --> Gaming platform 1. Install win2003 2. Install 5 patches 3. turn on hardware acceleration 4. install Win2003 optimizer utility and tweak a few settings 5. install direct x 9.0b 6. play games WinXP --> Gaming platform 1. Install winXP 2. apply 50 patches 3. go thru annoying 'Welcome' screen 4. disable welcome screen 5. tweak registry to nuke MSN messenger from auto-launching 6. turn off messenger service 7. disable XP themes 8. disable ultra-gay new Start menu 9. install tweak UI and tweak away 10. install half a dozen other utilities and tweak away 11. play games 12. get BSOD, curse, reboot Except that most of those in the XP list take all of 5 seconds. BSODs are so windows 9x. Welcome Screen: next, don't register, next. Whoo, that's tough Disable welcome screen: control panel, users, change the way users log on/off...besides on Server you have to hunt down "display shutdown event tracker" MSN Messenger: either run the uninstall cmd line (google it...2 seconds) or just disable it in 10 seconds with GP edit Messenger/theme service, again, 2 seconds disable "ultra-gay" new start menu...whoo...right click, properties, classic, ok. and so forth...besides, on 2k3 you still have to go into services.msc to enable sound, you also have to disable the internet explorer lockdown, etc. oh and you forgot a step in the win2003-->gaming platform Post to forums when things inevitably don't work right, and hope someone can answer your question in a manner other than "don't use 2k3" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WxAxGxS Posted November 12, 2003 Author Share Posted November 12, 2003 I spend a good 2-3 HOURS trimming the fat off of Windows XP install... It's a freaking pain in the arse to go through all the services, registry hacks, try tricks to stop the freaking blue screens, etc I did make it a lot easier by just making a little install that did most of it for me.. but that was a hell of a lot of time i'd rather not have wasted as well. With 2k3, aside from my problem with Texture Acceleration, I've had no issues. I've yet to have a BSOD and when i went through all the settings (this is myf irst time using 2k3 as I didn't think it had this much benefit over XP) to tweak/optimize/kill things, I realized I didn't even have to. I have a feeling if I through my Radeon 9600 Pro in there, I wouldn't have a single issue.. However, I'm loaning it to a friend and he's putting it to better use than he would an AIW or I would a 9600 Pro... So win/win.. If i can get this freaking thing to work.... So yes, AS I HAVE YET TO BE ABLE TO FIX THE TEXTURE ACCELERATION.... If you can help me out, I might just possibly give you a hug :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spyder Veteran Posted November 12, 2003 Veteran Share Posted November 12, 2003 no need to argue about it or explain yourself. you use what you use because you want to. what you do is your perogative. all that needs to be remembered is to not feed the trolls. all will be well then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkmark327 Posted November 12, 2003 Share Posted November 12, 2003 BSODs on XP? I just don't get it. Only time I got them was when a virus infected my sound card's drivers (ouch), but that's hardly a common occurrence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spyder Veteran Posted November 12, 2003 Veteran Share Posted November 12, 2003 darkmark.. personally i don't get any on XP either. most of the time XP BSOD's are due to hardware issues. but thats not really the topic of this thread.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimplyPotatoes Posted November 12, 2003 Share Posted November 12, 2003 I spend a good 2-3 HOURS trimming the fat off of Windows XP install... It's a freaking pain in the arse to go through all the services, registry hacks, try tricks to stop the freaking blue screens, etcI did make it a lot easier by just making a little install that did most of it for me.. but that was a hell of a lot of time i'd rather not have wasted as well. With 2k3, aside from my problem with Texture Acceleration, I've had no issues. I've yet to have a BSOD and when i went through all the settings (this is myf irst time using 2k3 as I didn't think it had this much benefit over XP) to tweak/optimize/kill things, I realized I didn't even have to. I have a feeling if I through my Radeon 9600 Pro in there, I wouldn't have a single issue.. However, I'm loaning it to a friend and he's putting it to better use than he would an AIW or I would a 9600 Pro... So win/win.. If i can get this freaking thing to work.... So yes, AS I HAVE YET TO BE ABLE TO FIX THE TEXTURE ACCELERATION.... If you can help me out, I might just possibly give you a hug :) wow sounds like something is wrong with your system that you get bsods right after installing xp? sounds more like a hardware issue, almost all bsods are hardware and 3rdparty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WxAxGxS Posted November 12, 2003 Author Share Posted November 12, 2003 No, it wasn't hardware.. I get the same problems on different platforms... I'm just really good at killing windows :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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