compl3x Posted June 8, 2013 Share Posted June 8, 2013 Is this just the slowest setting or is it something else? Why did they call it "placebo"? Just curious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeChipshop Member Posted June 8, 2013 Member Share Posted June 8, 2013 I have no idea. But we all know what placebo means, maybe it's a joke? :s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phouchg Posted June 8, 2013 Share Posted June 8, 2013 Quite like Insane preset for MP3 VBR - for self-proclaimed snobs that can supposedly hear/see differences between that, lossless and the next lowest one to brag about their many dollar gear (including "my iPhone"), refusing blind test or other hardware, because they supposedly have "a tuned ear", and losing de facto, because nobody should give a sheet - lossy encoding is called lossy for a reason and exists for a reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
compl3x Posted June 8, 2013 Author Share Posted June 8, 2013 So, essentially, it's an impractical setting so extreme it is used by no one besides people who pretend to have an almost super-human ability to detect the slightest differences in quality? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLegendOfMart Posted June 8, 2013 Share Posted June 8, 2013 Yup. For my rips I go custom settings, 5 ref frames, 3 bframes, cabac, 8x8 transform, weighted pframes on, uneven multi hex, subpixel 8, motion est 24, psy trellis 1.0, all partitions using RF18 and they look great. 15FPS~ on a quad i5 chip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamieakers Posted June 8, 2013 Share Posted June 8, 2013 I wonder whether they're saying it's like the placebo drug so it has no effect, or whether it's some comparison to the 90's band Placebo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phouchg Posted June 8, 2013 Share Posted June 8, 2013 It's easier to detect quality loss with visual material, so my rant about audiophiles may not fully apply. But it does enable all the most slowest options supported, so impractical it is. Probably useful for testing equipment (or general testing of codec - that it gets all options right) or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SierraSonic Posted June 8, 2013 Share Posted June 8, 2013 The setting everyone should use, why not enable the best possible settings no matter what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLegendOfMart Posted June 8, 2013 Share Posted June 8, 2013 Two reasons: A) Placebo has 16 reference frames and 16 B-Frames which is not compatible with a lot of standalone devices, at most you should be using 5 reference frames and 3 bframes if you want to play back the video on tablets, streamers, etc.. B) Performance cost, you are looking at sub 1fps if you use the placebo preset regardless of your CPU and a couple of days to transcode a HD movie. At the very most you should be using slow preset, 5ref frames, subme 8, etc.. and saving yourself hours and hours of transcoding for no perceivable quality loss. If you want a perfect copy then just leave the bluray source as it is remuxed into MKV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
compl3x Posted June 8, 2013 Author Share Posted June 8, 2013 Awesome, thanks for the responses. Especially TheLegendOfMart :) I think the slow preset will do me just fine. :spindj: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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