neohelp Posted July 1, 2013 Share Posted July 1, 2013 I bought some RAM online but the pin layout is different. Looking at some online datasheets they are both DDR2 and made for desktop but seem incompatible. I say they are incompatible because the notch on the new RAM is more centered than the one on the current PC. Here are the part numbers: 78T6453FZ0-CD5 (current) F2-6400CL5D-4GBNT (new) With that, Google will show information and hopefully you guys see something Im missing :) Thank you Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1162102-different-pin-layouts-for-ddr2/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mindovermaster Global Moderator Posted July 1, 2013 Global Moderator Share Posted July 1, 2013 What board do you have? And what RAM module did you get? I'm not 100% sure, but server ram (with ecc) might have a different pin-out. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1162102-different-pin-layouts-for-ddr2/#findComment-595793530 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Thayios Subscriber² Posted July 1, 2013 Subscriber² Share Posted July 1, 2013 Your first part number barely brings up anything. The closest thing I could find with that part number was regular DDR, not DDR2. ECC Ram does have a slightly offset pin out The Evil Overlord 1 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1162102-different-pin-layouts-for-ddr2/#findComment-595793538 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Evil Overlord Posted July 1, 2013 Share Posted July 1, 2013 I've had that very same problem when rebuilding older systems, best advise I can give, is go back to your retailer, and tell them that the module doesn't fit, (if possible take the mobo with you) that way it's the retailer who will try to solve the problem for you. (At least that's what I did) Please note, I only know how to build em, not much more than that... Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1162102-different-pin-layouts-for-ddr2/#findComment-595793542 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astra.Xtreme Posted July 1, 2013 Share Posted July 1, 2013 If you can post some pictures, we'll be able to give you much more help. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1162102-different-pin-layouts-for-ddr2/#findComment-595793548 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phouchg Posted July 1, 2013 Share Posted July 1, 2013 If they are visibly different (DDR2 FBDIMMs are different from UDIMMs, for example), take them back to the store - nobody can argue with that. However, if PNs are correct, they, in theory, should both be DDR2 UDIMM and therefore similar :s Are you sure you're not putting them the other way round (which is a stupid thing, but does happen to the best of techxperts)? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1162102-different-pin-layouts-for-ddr2/#findComment-595793586 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJerman Posted July 1, 2013 Share Posted July 1, 2013 The first listed, 78T6453FZ0-CD5, appears to be a part number for the actual memory chip, not the stick of memory, so it's kind of hard to compare the two numbers you gave. That memory module is used on a number of different sticks of memory. Same as most people have said though. Take them both out and line them up, do they match or no? Make sure you put it in the right way, make sure neither or both are registered, buffered, ecc, etc. You can hold them pin edge to pin edge and quickly see if the pins line up or not. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1162102-different-pin-layouts-for-ddr2/#findComment-595793606 Share on other sites More sharing options...
redvamp128 Posted July 1, 2013 Share Posted July 1, 2013 According to an OEM PC site for memory - I did a memory search - and the first if you put a M in front of it . Seems to be Samsung OE (Manufacturer Number) Which it is saying that it is PC 4200 and is listed as this "DDR2-533 DIMM iMac G5, Samsung" .. Hope this helps... The second number comes back as this... G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model F2-6400CL5D-4GBNT Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1162102-different-pin-layouts-for-ddr2/#findComment-595793704 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJerman Posted July 1, 2013 Share Posted July 1, 2013 Ahh, you're right. Add M3 to the front and it shows up as a 512 MB stick of DDR2. They both look to be unbuffered and non-ecc, as well as 240 pin DDR2. I hate to say it but I'm gonna have to also go with putting them in backwards. I don't see any reason why they would be different pin layouts. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1162102-different-pin-layouts-for-ddr2/#findComment-595793722 Share on other sites More sharing options...
redvamp128 Posted July 1, 2013 Share Posted July 1, 2013 also found this- Images found on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DDR_SDRAM Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1162102-different-pin-layouts-for-ddr2/#findComment-595793822 Share on other sites More sharing options...
neohelp Posted July 1, 2013 Author Share Posted July 1, 2013 The pin layout is different, which is what really weirds me out! I mean they are both DDR2........ Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1162102-different-pin-layouts-for-ddr2/#findComment-595794148 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mindovermaster Global Moderator Posted July 1, 2013 Global Moderator Share Posted July 1, 2013 PIctures? Exact model numbers, not pin numbers? We can't help you unless you help us. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1162102-different-pin-layouts-for-ddr2/#findComment-595794272 Share on other sites More sharing options...
neohelp Posted July 1, 2013 Author Share Posted July 1, 2013 OK, Ill try to get some pictures tommorow Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1162102-different-pin-layouts-for-ddr2/#findComment-595794700 Share on other sites More sharing options...
neohelp Posted July 2, 2013 Author Share Posted July 2, 2013 There are the chips, top is the new RAM, bottom is the one in the PC currently. Here is the motherboard: http://www.amazon.com/G9322-CJ744-XH407-MM096-Workstation/dp/B004ZG79JK Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1162102-different-pin-layouts-for-ddr2/#findComment-595795468 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MP Technologie Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 Don't mean to sound daft, but erm... did you try to flip it ? seems to me that the only problem looking at your pics is that both sticks are in the opposite direction, nothing more... tickedon 1 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1162102-different-pin-layouts-for-ddr2/#findComment-595795470 Share on other sites More sharing options...
neohelp Posted July 2, 2013 Author Share Posted July 2, 2013 Don't mean to sound daft, but erm... did you try to flip it ? seems to me that the only problem looking at your pics is that both sticks are in the opposite direction, nothing more...Maybe I did not try it because of the sticker :p I feel like I should be nominated for a Darwin award if its just that lol..... Give me a second. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1162102-different-pin-layouts-for-ddr2/#findComment-595795482 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MP Technologie Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 lol. Sticker has no importance at all mate ;) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1162102-different-pin-layouts-for-ddr2/#findComment-595795484 Share on other sites More sharing options...
neohelp Posted July 2, 2013 Author Share Posted July 2, 2013 Yup, Darwin award nomination here. Sorry about wasting your time, guys. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1162102-different-pin-layouts-for-ddr2/#findComment-595795490 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MP Technologie Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 No problems mate :) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1162102-different-pin-layouts-for-ddr2/#findComment-595795492 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven P. Administrators Posted July 2, 2013 Administrators Share Posted July 2, 2013 Don't mean to sound daft, but erm... did you try to flip it ? seems to me that the only problem looking at your pics is that both sticks are in the opposite direction, nothing more... Yup, Darwin award nomination here. Sorry about wasting your time, guys. LOL glad it's sorted, award the answer to the guy above pls on page 1 :P Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1162102-different-pin-layouts-for-ddr2/#findComment-595795494 Share on other sites More sharing options...
neohelp Posted July 2, 2013 Author Share Posted July 2, 2013 LOL glad it's sorted, award the answer to the guy above pls on page 1 :p? I already did ? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1162102-different-pin-layouts-for-ddr2/#findComment-595795500 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phouchg Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 Well... as they say - happens to the best of us? :laugh: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1162102-different-pin-layouts-for-ddr2/#findComment-595796230 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tsupersonic Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 LMAO and the nominee for the best thread of the year goes to... :p Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1162102-different-pin-layouts-for-ddr2/#findComment-595796342 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astra.Xtreme Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 On the upside, you'll never overlook something like this again. :P Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1162102-different-pin-layouts-for-ddr2/#findComment-595796350 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LieboOSBA Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 Hahaha, just saw this, made me laugh :) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1162102-different-pin-layouts-for-ddr2/#findComment-595796374 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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