V-Tech Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 The European Union's antitrust chief, Joaquin Almunia, told a news conference today that the commission had deemed Google's recent concession offer insufficient. According to a Reuters report, Almunia has written a letter directly to Eric Schmidt demanding that the company "present better proposals", following the antitrust inquiry into Google's search and page ranking behavior. "After an analysis of the market test that was concluded on June 27, I concluded that the proposals that Google sent to us are not enough to overcome our concerns." These changes, which would be enacted in the next five years, included more labelling of links that promote Googles own search services (like shopping), along the lines of showing that they are promoted placements. There would also be more graphical separation of the above links -- again, like how you see promoted ads in the search results page. The company would also offer the ability for rival search sites to tag their results so that Google would be unable to improve its own search offering by indexing those pages. Given other recent issues between Google and some European countries, the proposals also touched on offering a way for publishers to control exactly what part of their content is used in Google News. The search giant's proposals were handed to the European Commission back in April, following its three-year investigation, with the regulator involving both Google's rivals and third parties in its decision-making process. We've reached out to Mountain View for comment and will tell you more when we hear it, and you can check out some of those rejected proposals at the More Coverage link. http://www.engadget.com/2013/07/17/eu-regulators-google-antitrust-offer/ gameboy1977 1 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1165172-eu-regulators-say-google-must-improve-its-antitrust-concession-offer/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
gameboy1977 Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 Google is really monopoly company at 10 times then direct to go to jail for sure, because of 90% share markets. EU will find Google guilty for monopoly. I agree with this. http://gs.statcounter.com/#search_engine-ww-daily-20130601-20130630-map You see that China blocked google serch engine long time ago. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1165172-eu-regulators-say-google-must-improve-its-antitrust-concession-offer/#findComment-595823818 Share on other sites More sharing options...
theyarecomingforyou Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 Google is really monopoly company then direct to go to jail for sure. EU will find Google gulity for monopoly. I agree with this. Fines are only issued as a last resort and Google will likely be able to avoid any fine if it submits an acceptable proposal to the EC and abides by it. What many don't appreciate is that Microsoft wasn't fined for its abusing its market position with regards to Internet Explorer but for violating the terms of the legally binding EC agreement. There is little doubt that Google has abused its market influence and I am glad that the EU is taking this matter seriously. gameboy1977 1 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1165172-eu-regulators-say-google-must-improve-its-antitrust-concession-offer/#findComment-595823838 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gameboy1977 Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 China already blocked Google at it's great wall. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1165172-eu-regulators-say-google-must-improve-its-antitrust-concession-offer/#findComment-595824042 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phouchg Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 As much as I'd like to condemn Google, because they are just another evil corporation, their results are really screwed up sometimes (according to my perspective), and also it's a bit unfair only Microsoft seems to be getting all the butt-end from Almunia thus far, are there any actual laws Google has broken? That seems to be the problem again - it's near-monopoly, but that's it. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1165172-eu-regulators-say-google-must-improve-its-antitrust-concession-offer/#findComment-595824148 Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloatingFatMan Posted July 18, 2013 Share Posted July 18, 2013 Google is really monopoly company at 10 times then direct to go to jail for sure, because of 90% share markets. EU will find Google guilty for monopoly. I agree with this. http://gs.statcounter.com/#search_engine-ww-daily-20130601-20130630-map You see that China blocked google serch engine long time ago. China blocked Google because Google refused to comply with their demands to censor search results, not because of monopoly issues. As much as I'd like to condemn Google, because they are just another evil corporation, their results are really screwed up sometimes (according to my perspective), and also it's a bit unfair only Microsoft seems to be getting all the butt-end from Almunia thus far, are there any actual laws Google has broken? That seems to be the problem again - it's near-monopoly, but that's it. Yes there are. Their new privacy policy breaks multiple EU data protection laws. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1165172-eu-regulators-say-google-must-improve-its-antitrust-concession-offer/#findComment-595824683 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phouchg Posted July 18, 2013 Share Posted July 18, 2013 Yes there are. Their new privacy policy breaks multiple EU data protection laws. Am I not understanding correctly that this case is not about their privacy policies but ranking of search results? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1165172-eu-regulators-say-google-must-improve-its-antitrust-concession-offer/#findComment-595824811 Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloatingFatMan Posted July 18, 2013 Share Posted July 18, 2013 Am I not understanding correctly that this case is not about their privacy policies but ranking of search results? Ah, wrong case. My mistake. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1165172-eu-regulators-say-google-must-improve-its-antitrust-concession-offer/#findComment-595824975 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gameboy1977 Posted July 18, 2013 Share Posted July 18, 2013 can you believe this picture? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1165172-eu-regulators-say-google-must-improve-its-antitrust-concession-offer/#findComment-595825477 Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloatingFatMan Posted July 18, 2013 Share Posted July 18, 2013 You DO realise that the correct so called "number of the beast" isn't actually 666, right? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1165172-eu-regulators-say-google-must-improve-its-antitrust-concession-offer/#findComment-595825623 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gameboy1977 Posted July 18, 2013 Share Posted July 18, 2013 yes, it is number of beast. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1165172-eu-regulators-say-google-must-improve-its-antitrust-concession-offer/#findComment-595825657 Share on other sites More sharing options...
techbeck Posted July 18, 2013 Share Posted July 18, 2013 yes, it is number of beast. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Number_of_the_beast Regardless, it is silly to call any company evil and to much is read into the logo. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1165172-eu-regulators-say-google-must-improve-its-antitrust-concession-offer/#findComment-595825689 Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloatingFatMan Posted July 18, 2013 Share Posted July 18, 2013 yes, it is number of beast. 1. No it isn't, it's 616 2. It's all complete nonsense anyway, no matter what number you think it is. There's no such thing as a beast Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1165172-eu-regulators-say-google-must-improve-its-antitrust-concession-offer/#findComment-595825905 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark-Heart Posted July 18, 2013 Share Posted July 18, 2013 1. No it isn't, it's 616 2. It's all complete nonsense anyway, no matter what number you think it is. There's no such thing as a beast The truth of matter those who saw the supposed number of the beast where in dreams, and according to so called dream specialists we see numbers upside down in dreams... so the actual number would be 999. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1165172-eu-regulators-say-google-must-improve-its-antitrust-concession-offer/#findComment-595825919 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gameboy1977 Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 this is latest news: EU regulator intensifies scrutiny of Google search results http://finance.yahoo.com/news/eu-antitrust-regulators-intensify-scrutiny-173513988.html Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1165172-eu-regulators-say-google-must-improve-its-antitrust-concession-offer/#findComment-595847501 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Growled Member Posted July 31, 2013 Member Share Posted July 31, 2013 Google will comply eventually...enough to stay out of legal trouble anyway. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1165172-eu-regulators-say-google-must-improve-its-antitrust-concession-offer/#findComment-595847753 Share on other sites More sharing options...
techbeck Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 Google will comply eventually...enough to stay out of legal trouble anyway. Yup. just like everyone else had to. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1165172-eu-regulators-say-google-must-improve-its-antitrust-concession-offer/#findComment-595847765 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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