#Michael Posted September 12, 2013 Share Posted September 12, 2013 Well that didn't take long. If Apple has it then that means that Samsung will too. Wonder what their design will look like?? Samsung's mobile business head JK Shin has said that the company's next smartphones will feature a 64-bit CPU, according to the Korea Times. Full article: http://www.engadget.com/2013/09/12/samsung-64-bit-cpu/ Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1176351-samsung-says-its-next-gen-smartphones-will-have-64-bit-processors-too/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draconian Guppy Posted September 12, 2013 Share Posted September 12, 2013 Obviously they can fall behind... Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1176351-samsung-says-its-next-gen-smartphones-will-have-64-bit-processors-too/#findComment-595940629 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Method Man Posted September 12, 2013 Share Posted September 12, 2013 About time that phones caught up with my 64 bits Atari Jaguar gaming machine. Bazooka Joe, +E.Worm Jimmy, fusi0n and 2 others 5 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1176351-samsung-says-its-next-gen-smartphones-will-have-64-bit-processors-too/#findComment-595940635 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astra.Xtreme Posted September 12, 2013 Share Posted September 12, 2013 Where's the announcement for their fingerprint scanner? The GS5 will undoubtedly have it along with an 8-core CPU... Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1176351-samsung-says-its-next-gen-smartphones-will-have-64-bit-processors-too/#findComment-595940643 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BajiRav Posted September 12, 2013 Share Posted September 12, 2013 So only iPhone users will have a 64bit e-boner until then? Fun times ahead. Although next-gen Samsung phones launch everyday so he probably means next week. funkydude and MFH 2 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1176351-samsung-says-its-next-gen-smartphones-will-have-64-bit-processors-too/#findComment-595940651 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draconian Guppy Posted September 12, 2013 Share Posted September 12, 2013 Where's the announcement for their fingerprint scanner? The GS5 will undoubtedly have it along with an 8-core CPU... So only iPhone users will have a 64bit e-boner until then? Fun times ahead. I think we've gotten to the point where no one is actually bringing anything new to the game, it's moarrr specs, moarrrr useless features ( Though I see how the fingerprint unlock is usefull), :/ Man when I first saw the iPhone 4 I was like "what an awesome design"... Every other phone has just been meh... ( I got a galaxy s4, because my 4 was beat up...) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1176351-samsung-says-its-next-gen-smartphones-will-have-64-bit-processors-too/#findComment-595940657 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Growled Member Posted September 12, 2013 Member Share Posted September 12, 2013 I think we've gotten to the point where no one is actually bringing anything new to the game, it's moarrr specs, moarrrr useless features Basically, yeah. I don't see a 64-bit CPU as that big of a deal for my phone. Nogib 1 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1176351-samsung-says-its-next-gen-smartphones-will-have-64-bit-processors-too/#findComment-595940671 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctebah Posted September 12, 2013 Share Posted September 12, 2013 It's so revolutionary. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1176351-samsung-says-its-next-gen-smartphones-will-have-64-bit-processors-too/#findComment-595940673 Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloatingFatMan Posted September 12, 2013 Share Posted September 12, 2013 Basically, yeah. I don't see a 64-bit CPU as that big of a deal for my phone. Worse, it will actually be a detriment! You only need a 64bit processor if you're going to be addressing more than 4gb of RAM. No phone has that much RAM, and won't for a couple of years yet, if then. Also, currently all mobile apps are 32bit apps. That means they're going to have to either be recompiled, or run via some kind of emulation layer (like the WoW64 library in Windows) to run, and that's going to be slower than running them on a 32bit processor. Nogib, Torolol, timster and 2 others 5 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1176351-samsung-says-its-next-gen-smartphones-will-have-64-bit-processors-too/#findComment-595940687 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draconian Guppy Posted September 12, 2013 Share Posted September 12, 2013 Basically, yeah. I don't see a 64-bit CPU as that big of a deal for my phone. Pretty much, an average joe will never ever care about it... But come to think of it, this might be an apple strategy to bring in more "spec hoarders". Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1176351-samsung-says-its-next-gen-smartphones-will-have-64-bit-processors-too/#findComment-595940695 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctebah Posted September 12, 2013 Share Posted September 12, 2013 Pretty much, an average joe will never ever care about it... But come to think of it, this might be an apple strategy to bring in more "spec hoarders". Bahahahahahaha. Umm, this article is about Samsungs next phone. So clearly it's their strategy as well. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1176351-samsung-says-its-next-gen-smartphones-will-have-64-bit-processors-too/#findComment-595940699 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draconian Guppy Posted September 12, 2013 Share Posted September 12, 2013 Worse, it will actually be a detriment! You only need a 64bit processor if you're going to be addressing more than 4gb of RAM. No phone has that much RAM, and won't for a couple of years yet, if then. Also, currently all mobile apps are 32bit apps. That means they're going to have to either be recompiled, or run via some kind of emulation layer (like the WoW64 library in Windows) to run, and that's going to be slower than running them on a 32bit processor. And then even, what games or apps use 4gigs on a phone?!!? It took long enough on PC... Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1176351-samsung-says-its-next-gen-smartphones-will-have-64-bit-processors-too/#findComment-595940701 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draconian Guppy Posted September 12, 2013 Share Posted September 12, 2013 Bahahahahahaha. Umm, this article is about Samsungs next phone. So clearly it's their strategy as well. True story. :laugh: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1176351-samsung-says-its-next-gen-smartphones-will-have-64-bit-processors-too/#findComment-595940705 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astra.Xtreme Posted September 12, 2013 Share Posted September 12, 2013 Worse, it will actually be a detriment! You only need a 64bit processor if you're going to be addressing more than 4gb of RAM. No phone has that much RAM, and won't for a couple of years yet, if then. Also, currently all mobile apps are 32bit apps. That means they're going to have to either be recompiled, or run via some kind of emulation layer (like the WoW64 library in Windows) to run, and that's going to be slower than running them on a 32bit processor. Memory allocation isn't the only use for 64-bit processing. I believe they are using the 64-bit architecture with the fingerprint scanner and probably other things. Higher security potential with x64. MorganX 1 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1176351-samsung-says-its-next-gen-smartphones-will-have-64-bit-processors-too/#findComment-595940703 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctebah Posted September 12, 2013 Share Posted September 12, 2013 Worse, it will actually be a detriment! You only need a 64bit processor if you're going to be addressing more than 4gb of RAM. No phone has that much RAM, and won't for a couple of years yet, if then. Also, currently all mobile apps are 32bit apps. That means they're going to have to either be recompiled, or run via some kind of emulation layer (like the WoW64 library in Windows) to run, and that's going to be slower than running them on a 32bit processor. You have no clue how 64 bit works. I thought by now people would know it's not just about memory. Go visit our great friend Google and educate yourself on the matter....please:) MorganX 1 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1176351-samsung-says-its-next-gen-smartphones-will-have-64-bit-processors-too/#findComment-595940709 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon H Supervisor Posted September 12, 2013 Supervisor Share Posted September 12, 2013 Where's the announcement for their fingerprint scanner? The GS5 will undoubtedly have it along with an 8-core CPU... you think they'll release the Galaxy C as well :rofl: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1176351-samsung-says-its-next-gen-smartphones-will-have-64-bit-processors-too/#findComment-595940711 Share on other sites More sharing options...
firey Posted September 12, 2013 Share Posted September 12, 2013 Where's the announcement for their fingerprint scanner? The GS5 will undoubtedly have it along with an 8-core CPU... My motorola atrix from 2 years ago has a finger print scanner. I never use it. Nogib 1 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1176351-samsung-says-its-next-gen-smartphones-will-have-64-bit-processors-too/#findComment-595940713 Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloatingFatMan Posted September 12, 2013 Share Posted September 12, 2013 Memory allocation isn't the only use for 64-bit processing. I believe they are using the 64-bit architecture with the fingerprint scanner and probably other things. Higher security potential with x64. An over-engineered solution for an almost non-existent problem that will have a negative impact for the majority of consumers. vcfan, Draconian Guppy and Nogib 3 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1176351-samsung-says-its-next-gen-smartphones-will-have-64-bit-processors-too/#findComment-595940717 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dead.cell Posted September 12, 2013 Share Posted September 12, 2013 But wait, wouldn't the operating system have to be designed around a 64bit processor as well, in order to at least take full advantage of these capabilities? Apple has full control over iOS, where as Samsung doesn't. Would this not be an issue? Or is this simply a matter of checking the "We have it too" box? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1176351-samsung-says-its-next-gen-smartphones-will-have-64-bit-processors-too/#findComment-595940719 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Dee Posted September 12, 2013 Share Posted September 12, 2013 Samsung is like that annoying person who keeps following you around and you can't loose them. benthebear 1 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1176351-samsung-says-its-next-gen-smartphones-will-have-64-bit-processors-too/#findComment-595940725 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draconian Guppy Posted September 12, 2013 Share Posted September 12, 2013 An over-engineered solution for an almost non-existent problem that will have a negative impact for the majority of consumers. What would be the negative impact? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1176351-samsung-says-its-next-gen-smartphones-will-have-64-bit-processors-too/#findComment-595940729 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draconian Guppy Posted September 12, 2013 Share Posted September 12, 2013 But wait, wouldn't the operating system have to be designed around a 64bit processor as well, in order to at least take full advantage of these capabilities? Apple has full control over iOS, where as Samsung doesn't. Would this not be an issue? Or is this simply a matter of checking the "We have it too" box? Yup, which is why apps will be "emulated" or something like that? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1176351-samsung-says-its-next-gen-smartphones-will-have-64-bit-processors-too/#findComment-595940733 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawkMan Posted September 12, 2013 Share Posted September 12, 2013 About time that phones caught up with my 64 bits Atari Jaguar gaming machine. Pretty sure phones have long since caught up to your 32 bit Atari jaguar game console Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1176351-samsung-says-its-next-gen-smartphones-will-have-64-bit-processors-too/#findComment-595940731 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctebah Posted September 12, 2013 Share Posted September 12, 2013 My motorola atrix from 2 years ago has a finger print scanner. I never use it. Motorola, you mean the idiots that forgot they had a fingerprint scanner and tweeted this about iPhone 5S: ?Remember that one time you were stoked to give your fingerprints? Us either,? I used the fingerprint scanner in the atrix, it was poorly implemented and garbage. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1176351-samsung-says-its-next-gen-smartphones-will-have-64-bit-processors-too/#findComment-595940739 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawkMan Posted September 12, 2013 Share Posted September 12, 2013 Worse, it will actually be a detriment! You only need a 64bit processor if you're going to be addressing more than 4gb of RAM. No phone has that much RAM, and won't for a couple of years yet, if then. Also, currently all mobile apps are 32bit apps. That means they're going to have to either be recompiled, or run via some kind of emulation layer (like the WoW64 library in Windows) to run, and that's going to be slower than running them on a 32bit processor. Actually WoW64 on windows runs 32 bit apps generally as fast as if the OS was 32 (since its not emulation they're actually running in a 32 bit windows on windows) and in some cases it actually runs 32 bit apps faster on windows 64 bit than if they had been run on windows 32 bit. Thanks to more efficient memory adressing and som stuff. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1176351-samsung-says-its-next-gen-smartphones-will-have-64-bit-processors-too/#findComment-595940743 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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