BetaAddict Posted October 11, 2013 Share Posted October 11, 2013 General Motors is betting you will. It?s put a $75,995 price tag (including the $995 destination charge) on the Cadillac ELR ? what?s essentially a two-door Chevrolet Volt with a handsome exterior and a leather-lined cabin. The same T-shaped, 16.5 kWh lithium-ion battery pack in the Volt finds its way underneath the creased sheet metal of the ELR, as well as its 1.4-liter gasoline-powered range-extending engine. That allows the Caddy to motor along on electric power alone for up to 35 miles before the gasoline engine kicks in to juice up the pack and keep the ELR going for a claimed range of 300 miles. Cadillac is touting the ELR?s 8-inch touchscreen powered by its CUE infotainment system ? which two years in is still a buggy mess ? along with a range of safety and convenience features, including lane departure warning, forward collision alert, and a 24-hour concierge service to answer questions. There?s also a ?regen on demand? feature that allows the driver to boost the brake regeneration, slowing the vehicle and recouping energy by pulling on the flappy paddles behind the steering wheel. GM?s bean counters are quick to point out that depending on what federal and state tax incentives buyers are eligible for, the net pricing could be as low as $68,495, but that?s still a tough sell considering you?re basically getting a Volt with more presence and less practicality. By comparison, $70k will get you into the entry-level ? but absolutely excellent ? all-electric Tesla Model S, with a 208-mile range from its 60 kWh battery. That makes the ELR almost impossible to justify what Caddy is demanding. Here?s hoping we?re wrong. We?ll find out when sales begin in January. http://www.wired.com/autopia/2013/10/cadillac-elr-price/#slideid-98711 http://www.wired.com/autopia/2013/01/cadillac-elr-detroit?pid=2603 So to answer the writer's question...No. GM can claim they have technology that could potentially be better than what Tesla has, but their execution of the product is their biggest problem as they continue to cut corners. The Volt and ELR both use most of the same design cues from their standard combustion engine cars. When someone buys an electric car, it's not because they want to save money on gas, which doesn't happen due the extra cost of the car. They want to be environmentally conscious while driving something different than the rest of the combustion engine cars so that they can stand out to make a statement. This is why even hybrid cars have failed to catch on except a few select models like the Prius. Until they design a car from ground up that is different from their existing models, it's never going to be as appealing as a Tesla. Even the ELR interior is no where near as sexy as Tesla's 17in touchscreen dashboard. +E.Worm Jimmy 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Evil Overlord Posted October 11, 2013 Share Posted October 11, 2013 one word answer? No! reason? The tesla Model S appeals to me more :p Shiranui 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tsupersonic Posted October 11, 2013 Share Posted October 11, 2013 Nope, no way in hell. The Tesla Model S is better in every regard: - Pure electric - More electric range - Tesla Supercharger network - More practical This is a hideous car - the design doesn't work on the coupe, it looks like they took a big car design and condensed into a coupe format - just does not work. No thank you GM SoCalRox 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luc2k Posted October 11, 2013 Share Posted October 11, 2013 Sweet Jesus, that thing is ugly! You can make your own scarecrow for a lot less. SoCalRox 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atomic Wanderer Chicken Posted October 11, 2013 Share Posted October 11, 2013 The problem with electric cars is if you live in mountainous, colder areas where it snows, having an electric car may be impractical because the heat requires a lot of power, and the hills will further drain the battery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skyrocket Posted October 11, 2013 Share Posted October 11, 2013 I wouldn't. If GM significantly dropped the price and improved the technology of the Volt / the ELR, I might consider it. Considering there is the Tesla Model S, which is more expensive but the technology is a lot better and it's not UGLY. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edrick Smith Posted October 11, 2013 Share Posted October 11, 2013 So are they saying the gas tank size is only 1.4 litres and it's able to get a 300 mile range out of that due to the fact that it's an electric car with a small gasoline generator to recharge the batteries? +E.Worm Jimmy 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TAZMINATOR Posted October 11, 2013 Share Posted October 11, 2013 Um... No. The Evil Overlord 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adrynalyne Posted October 11, 2013 Share Posted October 11, 2013 I like how they try to make its power look good: "Nail the throttle and you?ll send 207 horsepower and 295 pound-feet of torque (the same as a BMW M3) to the 20-inch front wheels. " Except that, its missing 207 hp to really be compared to an M3. Heck, my car makes almost that much torque, and an M3 would eat me alive. "Cadillac isn?t citing performance numbers, but the 4,070-pound ELR should be good for mid-seven second run to 60 mph." Yeah, a lot like an M3.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nashy Posted October 11, 2013 Share Posted October 11, 2013 I wouldn't pay that sort of money for anything made in the USA. skyrocket 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+E.Worm Jimmy Subscriber¹ Posted October 15, 2013 Subscriber¹ Share Posted October 15, 2013 No way! While i do like some cadillac designs, this one is not that appealing considering! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adrynalyne Posted October 15, 2013 Share Posted October 15, 2013 I wouldn't pay that sort of money for anything made in the USA. So if they made the above somewhere else, you would? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juguard Posted October 15, 2013 Share Posted October 15, 2013 I wouldn't pay that sort of money for anything made in the USA. /facepalm Do you like music? "Made in USA" products record some of the best music out there. And some of you people need to read about the VOLT a bit more. That car is fantastic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom Helix Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 The problem with electric cars is if you live in mountainous, colder areas where it snows, having an electric car may be impractical because the heat requires a lot of power, and the hills will further drain the battery. Yes but lots of extra regen braking on those same said "Hills" that us people that live in the flats don't get /facepalm Do you like music? "Made in USA" products record some of the best music out there. And some of you people need to read about the VOLT a bit more. That car is fantastic. True, the Volt is a fantastic car, ive test driven several and other than no noise you would not know it was an electric car, it is however far to expensive for what you get, fuel savings or not, base models for a 2013 Volt start at $42,000 I would rather spend $75,000 on a Model S than either a Volt or an ELR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juguard Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 Yes but lots of extra regen braking on those same said "Hills" that us people that live in the flats don't get True, the Volt is a fantastic car, ive test driven several and other than no noise you would not know it was an electric car, it is however far to expensive for what you get, fuel savings or not, base models for a 2013 Volt start at $42,000 I would rather spend $75,000 on a Model S than either a Volt or an ELR I wasn't comparing the 2 cars. But I will, I guess. :p They are both great cars in their own class. With the Volt, you do not have that range anxiety like you do with the Model S. The Volt, you'll never get stuck with no juice. And it doesn't cost 42,000 after tax credit. The Model S is great if you live in warm conditions, as a full electric, it needs warmer weather. But the Model S cannot make long trips. Its a very expensive town car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shiranui Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 Do you like music? "Made in USA" products record some of the best music out there. If you say so...... Anyway, the car is not that bad looking, but I have always found Cadillac's over-sized front grille to be rather ugly. No way I would consider this over a Tesla, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juguard Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 If you say so...... Anyway, the car is not that bad looking, but I have always found Cadillac's over-sized front grille to be rather ugly. No way I would consider this over a Tesla, though. It always comes down to what type of driving you need the car for(or to show off). For a trip to San Diego to LA and back to SD, is not possible with the Tesla without waiting for a recharge. Also, with traffic, maybe not even a one way trip is possible. The the Model S is sexy, would love to own one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nashy Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 /facepalm Do you like music? "Made in USA" products record some of the best music out there. And some of you people need to read about the VOLT a bit more. That car is fantastic. God dammit I hate the Internet. I'm talking about cars, not music. It's car thread, stop being silly. There is nothing fantastic about the Volt. I look at prices for repair too, I work in the industry, ###### Yank cars are heaps of ######. The Evil Overlord 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argi Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 If you're paying that much then Tesla Model S is the no brainer. Anything else would be beyond stupid. The Evil Overlord 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juguard Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 God dammit I hate the Internet. I'm talking about cars, not music. It's car thread, stop being silly. There is nothing fantastic about the Volt. I look at prices for repair too, I work in the industry, **** Yank cars are heaps of ****. Well, I'm sorry, but you did say "anything" ... Anyways, I can't afford any of them, but would love to have both of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FriendlyBully Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 I don't think the Robocop remake will be any good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TAZMINATOR Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 I don't think the Robocop remake will be any good. What? we aren't talking about a movie... we are talking about battery operated car here... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Evil Overlord Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 What? we aren't talking about a movie... we are talking about battery operated car here... Well Technically, as Robocop is battery operated, and uses cars..... I see the connection Actually, no I don't nevermind, carry on Phantom Helix 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TAZMINATOR Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 Well Technically, as Robocop is battery operated, and uses cars..... I see the connection Actually, no I don't nevermind, carry on Goofy :rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riahc3 Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 Hello, I can buy a Escalade for $68,000 Will it suck more gas than a prosititue in Utah? Yes but I wouldnt care. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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