LimeMaster Posted November 5, 2013 Share Posted November 5, 2013 On 05/11/2013 at 16:50, Lone Wanderer Chicken said: Posting chicken photos or jokes isn't trivial :shifty: And certainly not best answer worthy either, but that doesn't change the fact that they are fun to read or look at as they can be funny. :) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1185983-tech-issues-solved-added-in-tech-forums/page/5/#findComment-596078853 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atomic Wanderer Chicken Posted November 5, 2013 Share Posted November 5, 2013 A lot of members posted in the random threads to provide interesting, amazing or funny things. Other members took advantage of them, which is not wrong or anything. The members with higher post counts drove the need of members with less post counts to post more, and posting more sometimes leads to posting frivolously. I think having the best answers view may improve things on Neowin. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1185983-tech-issues-solved-added-in-tech-forums/page/5/#findComment-596078875 Share on other sites More sharing options...
firey Posted November 5, 2013 Share Posted November 5, 2013 :D I marked two of my own posts as best answers.. now I have 2 :D fusi0n and AJerman 2 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1185983-tech-issues-solved-added-in-tech-forums/page/5/#findComment-596078883 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fusi0n Posted November 5, 2013 Share Posted November 5, 2013 On 05/11/2013 at 17:03, firey said: :D I marked two of my own posts as best answers.. now I have 2 :D lol, me too Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1185983-tech-issues-solved-added-in-tech-forums/page/5/#findComment-596078885 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon H Supervisor Posted November 5, 2013 Supervisor Share Posted November 5, 2013 hmm, I have 4 best answers. who woulda thought? :rofl: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1185983-tech-issues-solved-added-in-tech-forums/page/5/#findComment-596078887 Share on other sites More sharing options...
firey Posted November 5, 2013 Share Posted November 5, 2013 The thing with best posts.. is it's easy to exploit.. but you can't remove it.. because sometimes you will find a post on the internet that is ACTUALLY the answer you need. As non-subs can't edit post the only way to make it visible and shown as a best answer is to post a new post and mark it as the best so others see it. fusi0n and Rigby 2 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1185983-tech-issues-solved-added-in-tech-forums/page/5/#findComment-596078891 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skyfrog Posted November 5, 2013 Share Posted November 5, 2013 I am not sure what to think about it. I've seen how the "best answer" system works on sites like Yahoo Answers, and in many cases it's not very well. The posts chosen as best answer are often completely wrong or at least no more helpful than any of the other posts. Many people may contribute valuable information to a question but only one gets chosen and a lot of times they're chosen randomly or based on personal opinions. Also I think that the majority of posts on Neowin are not really answers to questions, we're mostly discussion so "best answer" isn't even going to apply to a lot of our users. I understand what the administrators are trying to do, I'm just not sure this is the best way to go about it. Rigby and Ice_Blue 2 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1185983-tech-issues-solved-added-in-tech-forums/page/5/#findComment-596078893 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaP Posted November 5, 2013 Share Posted November 5, 2013 On 05/11/2013 at 12:13, LimeMaster92 said: You're trying to make me bad because I don't get best answers. :o :p But yeah I suppose it's good for the ones that do get them. :) You're a lime master. Unless the topic is about mastering lime then you should not be able to provide the best answer. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1185983-tech-issues-solved-added-in-tech-forums/page/5/#findComment-596078907 Share on other sites More sharing options...
firey Posted November 5, 2013 Share Posted November 5, 2013 On 05/11/2013 at 17:11, LaP said: You're a lime master. Unless the topic is about mastering lime then you should not be able to provide the best answer. Since he is the master though.. clearly ANY lime related posts should have his words be the best answer possible. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1185983-tech-issues-solved-added-in-tech-forums/page/5/#findComment-596078911 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boo Berry Posted November 5, 2013 Share Posted November 5, 2013 Cheaters! Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1185983-tech-issues-solved-added-in-tech-forums/page/5/#findComment-596078913 Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingCracker Posted November 5, 2013 Share Posted November 5, 2013 Why wasn't there a vote on this? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1185983-tech-issues-solved-added-in-tech-forums/page/5/#findComment-596078915 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lingwo Posted November 5, 2013 Share Posted November 5, 2013 I like the idea of this but i think the "like" count being shown instead as that will be more relevant to the entire forum. The problem with best answer is that a lot of threads don't have a "best answer" as they're just discussions. So people that mainly take part in those threads will be excluded. Another idea like someone else suggested is keep the best answers count to support forums where it would be relevant. I vote this be the best answer to this thread :laugh: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1185983-tech-issues-solved-added-in-tech-forums/page/5/#findComment-596078917 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atomic Wanderer Chicken Posted November 5, 2013 Share Posted November 5, 2013 I think the best answers thing will lead to potential abuse to get a higher best answer count. For instance someone will post in the hardware section "My computer is not working, should I hit it with a hammer?" or in the windows community "I bought a new desktop, should I install Windows 95 or 3.11 on it?" and then people will post answers like "yes you should" then the OP will select the best answer. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1185983-tech-issues-solved-added-in-tech-forums/page/5/#findComment-596078925 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris123NT Posted November 5, 2013 Share Posted November 5, 2013 I'm not one to make waves or anything but this doesn't seem like a good way to rank members experience etc... Less so than post count does since best answer can be so easily exploited by members to push each others rank up. I'm not saying post count is a perfect system, far from it, but this seems even less so. fusi0n, trag3dy, Skyfrog and 2 others 5 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1185983-tech-issues-solved-added-in-tech-forums/page/5/#findComment-596078927 Share on other sites More sharing options...
firey Posted November 5, 2013 Share Posted November 5, 2013 On 05/11/2013 at 17:17, Lone Wanderer Chicken said: I think the best answers thing will lead to potential abuse to get a higher best answer count. For instance someone will post in the hardware section "My computer is not working, should I hit it with a hammer?" or in the windows community "I bought a new desktop, should I install Windows 95 or 3.11 on it?" and then people will post answers like "yes you should" then the OP will select the best answer. If you made any of those threads.. I would be sure to answer! Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1185983-tech-issues-solved-added-in-tech-forums/page/5/#findComment-596078939 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fusi0n Posted November 5, 2013 Share Posted November 5, 2013 On 05/11/2013 at 17:18, Chris123NT said: I'm not one to make waves or anything but this doesn't seem like a good way to rank members experience etc... Less so than post count does since best answer can be so easily exploited by members to push each others rank up. I'm not saying post count is a perfect system, far from it, but this seems even less so. Chris123NT, one of the most respected members in the Windows community.. has 0 best answers count. I thought the new system was for so new members saw high quality post counts.. He has made many guides in the past and very knowledgeable.. Going by this new system.. not sure if he should be trusted or not.. Not saying post count makes a difference.. but.. come on now. AJerman, f0rk_b0mb, Rigby and 3 others 6 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1185983-tech-issues-solved-added-in-tech-forums/page/5/#findComment-596078945 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryan R. Posted November 5, 2013 Share Posted November 5, 2013 Excellent idea. That is all :) Edit: 0 Answers?! I've helped but probably not when the best answer feature was enabled. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1185983-tech-issues-solved-added-in-tech-forums/page/5/#findComment-596078947 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atomic Wanderer Chicken Posted November 5, 2013 Share Posted November 5, 2013 I did on yahoo answers one time. I asked whether my new Windows 98 computer I bought yesterday will run Half-Life and I got some response like "not sure if trolling" "are you serious?" On 05/11/2013 at 17:19, firey said: If you made any of those threads.. I would be sure to answer! Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1185983-tech-issues-solved-added-in-tech-forums/page/5/#findComment-596078951 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon H Supervisor Posted November 5, 2013 Supervisor Share Posted November 5, 2013 here's my take on this. at a per thread level the best answer is obviously pretty relevant. but at a forum as a whole level the best answer count really have no more relevancy than the like count does i'm not going to say revert it back to showing post count, but i agree with the others that i don't the the 0 best answers should show zman982 1 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1185983-tech-issues-solved-added-in-tech-forums/page/5/#findComment-596078957 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LimeMaster Posted November 5, 2013 Share Posted November 5, 2013 On 05/11/2013 at 17:11, LaP said: You're a lime master. Unless the topic is about mastering lime then you should not be able to provide the best answer. Apparently that is not the case. :laugh: On 05/11/2013 at 17:13, firey said: Since he is the master though.. clearly ANY lime related posts should have his words be the best answer possible. The lime related posts are in the off-topic/general sections, so they won't get best answer. On a more related note: Maybe add the ability to replace best answer with something else because as I have say before not everyone will get these often. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1185983-tech-issues-solved-added-in-tech-forums/page/5/#findComment-596078965 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fusi0n Posted November 5, 2013 Share Posted November 5, 2013 I'm pretty sure, everyone will agree, that Budman is one of the most intelligent and helpful forum members. He doesn't care if it takes 30 seconds or 2 hours to help someone with 1 post or 1000 post.. He goes into great detail and will start from the basics if he feels like someone doesn't understand the issue. He only has 15 best answers. He is a very dedicated forum member and someone that goes out of his way to help someone, only has 15 best answers.. I know this hasn't been implemented very long.. but he has helped far more than 15 people with well, thought out, and detailed post since it has. McKay, LimeMaster, Crisp and 1 other 4 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1185983-tech-issues-solved-added-in-tech-forums/page/5/#findComment-596078977 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chasethebase Reporter Posted November 5, 2013 Reporter Share Posted November 5, 2013 Bear in mind, that the Best Answer feature has only recently been introduced, and not many members have been, let's say, encouraged to use this feature. Hopefully this change will promote using the feature more, and also it will start to bring these numbers up to a more accurate level. Remember, it is still early days, and we have only just rolled this change out, over the course of the next couple of days/weeks, we will be refining this system so that it works better for everyone. :) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1185983-tech-issues-solved-added-in-tech-forums/page/5/#findComment-596078987 Share on other sites More sharing options...
riahc3 Posted November 5, 2013 Share Posted November 5, 2013 Hello, Im going to purpose another system. Why cant this be a user side option? If you want to see the best answers, click it in your user config. If you want to see the post count, click it in your user config. This is problably the EASIEST method to let everyone be happy. Also another problem to this system is it is limited to the tech section. Posts counts count everywhere except 1 or 2 sections. Ice_Blue and Brandon H 2 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1185983-tech-issues-solved-added-in-tech-forums/page/5/#findComment-596078995 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atomic Wanderer Chicken Posted November 5, 2013 Share Posted November 5, 2013 I should be given the Most Fowl Contributor, because I post the most fowl and absurd things :laugh: AJerman 1 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1185983-tech-issues-solved-added-in-tech-forums/page/5/#findComment-596079001 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fusi0n Posted November 5, 2013 Share Posted November 5, 2013 Just have both.. A lot of forums do both. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1185983-tech-issues-solved-added-in-tech-forums/page/5/#findComment-596079005 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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