OrangeSoul Posted November 26, 2003 Share Posted November 26, 2003 Which file format like zip or rar or sit(apple) compresses the file to a maximum Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/118893-most-compression-format/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 \\Coroner// Posted November 26, 2003 Share Posted November 26, 2003 I would say rar is best. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/118893-most-compression-format/#findComment-1409420 Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 OrangeSoul Posted November 26, 2003 Author Share Posted November 26, 2003 u dindt answer my question, which file format compresses the most, not which one is most popular Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/118893-most-compression-format/#findComment-1409423 Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 rezza Veteran Posted November 26, 2003 Veteran Share Posted November 26, 2003 I always enjoy flogging a dead horse! Depends on the content of the file you're compressing... I'd say uharc for media files, and 7-zip for general stuff. but they aren't too common, so your overall best bet is probably rar files, like coroner said. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/118893-most-compression-format/#findComment-1409429 Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 noir Posted November 26, 2003 Share Posted November 26, 2003 (edited) 7-Zip I think Edited November 26, 2003 by noir Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/118893-most-compression-format/#findComment-1409434 Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 sryo Posted November 26, 2003 Share Posted November 26, 2003 Archiver Compressed size Ratio 7-Zip (7z format) 5445402 100% WinRAR 3.10 6004155 110% WinAce 2.3 6242424 115% CABARC 1.0 6455327 119% 7-Zip (zip format) 9461621 174% PKZIP 2.50 9842800 181% FILE SET: The GIMP 1.2.4 for Windows after full installation (127 subfolders, 1304 files totaling 27,128,826 bytes). The GIMP is the GNU Image Manipulation Program. It can be downloaded from www.gimp.org. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/118893-most-compression-format/#findComment-1409443 Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 morganpugh84 Posted November 26, 2003 Share Posted November 26, 2003 It depends on the files you are compressing. Try them out yourself with some files and see for yourself. The best format in my opinion is RAR, there are other formats out there that can compress better (albeit only a tiny bit better) but RAR has so many powerful options such as spliting archices into multiple files, built in recovery records (similar to PAR files), compression profiles, archive authenticity verification and excellent SFX modules (GUI and DOS based for example). Also RAR is the most used format on the web these days. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/118893-most-compression-format/#findComment-1409450 Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 sanctified Veteran Posted November 26, 2003 Veteran Share Posted November 26, 2003 the 7-zip format compress better, but only 10% better than rar so that doesnt matter considering that 7-zip is extremely slow at compressing and de-compressing Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/118893-most-compression-format/#findComment-1409459 Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 ~Bull}{Dog~ Posted November 26, 2003 Share Posted November 26, 2003 What saint dark said.. 7-zip is really good but its slow. The version of the client I have seems to forget to release memory too, so after compressing a few files I find I need a restart. Rar is nice though. Fairly quick and decent compression. Ace also seems nice, though I've not done anything with that myself. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/118893-most-compression-format/#findComment-1409469 Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Inertia Posted November 26, 2003 Share Posted November 26, 2003 deltree *.* = 100% compression :D new joke , lol :whistle: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/118893-most-compression-format/#findComment-1409471 Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 John Veteran Posted November 26, 2003 Veteran Share Posted November 26, 2003 deltree's not in xp :p del /s /f /q *.* is what you're looking for :whistle: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/118893-most-compression-format/#findComment-1409639 Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Trust Posted November 26, 2003 Share Posted November 26, 2003 7zip. its the best... but isnt fully tested... Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/118893-most-compression-format/#findComment-1409643 Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 morganpugh84 Posted November 26, 2003 Share Posted November 26, 2003 [saint dark said: ,Nov 26 2003, 23:02] the 7-zip format compress better, but only 10% better than rar so that doesnt matter considering that 7-zip is extremely slow at compressing and de-compressing Very true :yes: I recently looked at using 7-Zip at work instead of WinZip however everyone agreed it is cheaper to use winzip because of the time saved vs. compressed size. Employee time is A LOT more expensive than a few KB (or MB in extreme situations). In the end they went for WinRAR because of the 100% ZIP compression (so customers that still use WinZip are not affected) and because of the SFX being built in (something that doesnt come with WinZip for commercial use!). WinRAR is easily the best because it gets excellent compression levels and is very quick. Also I think the RAR Vs 7Zip levels are actually about 3-7% not 10% (well maybe with some examples). However I have compressed loads of things that RAR gets smaller than 7Zip and the WinRAR UI is excellent (7Zip's is awful at the moment!) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/118893-most-compression-format/#findComment-1409654 Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 morganpugh84 Posted November 26, 2003 Share Posted November 26, 2003 Just a quick example... I had 5 txt files which are 47.9KB in total. in 7-Zip they are compressed to 16.5KB in RAR they are compresse dto 13.5KB in 7-Zip SFX they are compressed to 85.0KB in RAR SFX they are compressed to 64.5KB WinRAR wins :D Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/118893-most-compression-format/#findComment-1409665 Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 MxxCon Posted November 26, 2003 Share Posted November 26, 2003 :sleep: best compression thread :sleep: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/118893-most-compression-format/#findComment-1409706 Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 John Veteran Posted November 27, 2003 Veteran Share Posted November 27, 2003 deadmonkey said: Just a quick example...I had 5 txt files which are 47.9KB in total. in 7-Zip they are compressed to 16.5KB in RAR they are compresse dto 13.5KB in 7-Zip SFX they are compressed to 85.0KB in RAR SFX they are compressed to 64.5KB WinRAR wins :D woohoo, try compressing your entire drive's contents and see which is smaller (Y) text files compress really well anyway, and two tests is hardly enough to declare a winner... Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/118893-most-compression-format/#findComment-1410826 Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Jay Posted November 27, 2003 Share Posted November 27, 2003 God, I can't stand it when people jump on the "yeah, me too" bandwagon when they hear some propaganda about new software supposedly being the be all / end all for one certain thing. Do your own testing before jumping in and saying "x" is better than "y"... For example, here's a test text file compression test using "Maximum" values for WinRar, WinZip, and 7-zip ... Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/118893-most-compression-format/#findComment-1411143 Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 morganpugh84 Posted November 27, 2003 Share Posted November 27, 2003 gameguy said: woohoo, try compressing your entire drive's contents and see which is smaller (Y) text files compress really well anyway, and two tests is hardly enough to declare a winner... i know it is not an excellent test but it is just a quick example. It is just like the test they show as an example on the &-Zip website when compressing the GiMP. They obviously only used it because 7-Zip compressed it better than WinRAR. They wouldnt use something where RAR got better compression would they?! Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/118893-most-compression-format/#findComment-1411157 Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Fred Derf Veteran Posted November 27, 2003 Veteran Share Posted November 27, 2003 sryo said: Archiver Compressed size Ratio7-Zip (7z format) 5445402 100% WinRAR 3.10 6004155 110% WinAce 2.3 6242424 115% CABARC 1.0 6455327 119% 7-Zip (zip format) 9461621 174% PKZIP 2.50 9842800 181% Doesn't this just tell you to go out and get WinRAR? Come on, only a 10% compression penalty from 7-Zip yet it's widely supported, easy to use and quick. Why waste your time with anything else? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/118893-most-compression-format/#findComment-1411220 Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 devBrian Posted November 27, 2003 Share Posted November 27, 2003 WinRAR. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/118893-most-compression-format/#findComment-1411232 Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Sushubh Posted November 27, 2003 Share Posted November 27, 2003 seriously i believe popularity is as important as compression ratio. if u are compressing for ur own usage than ofcourse compression comes first. my experience: WinAce WinRar WinZip (I am naming the applications) I had liked to try out 7Zip but dont think many people in my circle use it. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/118893-most-compression-format/#findComment-1412092 Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 LiLViEtDuDe917 Posted November 27, 2003 Share Posted November 27, 2003 I would go for WinZip. Even though it is much limited to the file formats compared to WinRar, it has much faster compression. You can extract and compress much faster and effiecient than other programs. I have a friend that works at Symantec and he says that they also use WinZip. WinRar is most likely to be built for home users while WinZip is more of a professional line of compression. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/118893-most-compression-format/#findComment-1412267 Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Sushubh Posted November 27, 2003 Share Posted November 27, 2003 home users/professional users now this is weird. i dont think winrar is not secure or good enough to be used by organisation. Zip just happen to be the most widely used format. That's it. That does not make WinZip the software of choice when it cant handle the alternative technologies. WinAce and WinRar on the other hand accepts other formats too. :) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/118893-most-compression-format/#findComment-1412278 Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 neuralshock Posted December 9, 2003 Share Posted December 9, 2003 I'm sticking with both 7-zip and WinRAR. :) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/118893-most-compression-format/#findComment-1451970 Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 amdmstf Posted December 9, 2003 Share Posted December 9, 2003 i go for WINRAR Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/118893-most-compression-format/#findComment-1452006 Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 BananaMan Posted December 9, 2003 Share Posted December 9, 2003 LiLViEtDuDe917 said: I would go for WinZip. Even though it is much limited to the file formats compared to WinRar, it has much faster compression. You can extract and compress much faster and effiecient than other programs. I have a friend that works at Symantec and he says that they also use WinZip. WinRar is most likely to be built for home users while WinZip is more of a professional line of compression. How is it more effiecent? I suppose it depends on how you define efficiency with compression, but with WinRAR and 7zip clearly able to pack a lot more into a smaller file than Winzip, I fail to see how you may be interpreting Winzip's superior efficiency over the competition. With WinRAR able to function within a console for scripting purposes, being able to support archives up to 8 terabytes (with Winzip maxed at 4GB), and lastly, having 128-bit encryption (where Winzip's encryption is very weak), WinRAR is far more suited to a professional enviroment than Winzip is. My 2 cents. Quote i dont think winrar is not secure or good enough to be used by organisation. See post above regarding encrpytion. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/118893-most-compression-format/#findComment-1452024 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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