Win8china: Windows 8.1 2014 Update(Spring GDR) Expected in March, Release in BUILD

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So, just to double check here, is WIMboot something OEMs can put off of the SSD, like say on a ROM on the device that you would then flash to update the OS in the future?   It did say it supports SSD and eMMC only,  are we looking at more of a LiveCD, USB Boot/Windows on the Go type option for OEMs to preload on hardware without doing the whole install process, just flash the image and done?  

 

If it's how I think, and how it sounds, then how much space are we actually saving here?

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I dont think saving space is the reason.

I think its "less time = less money"

If they can do less, and all charges stay the same - the OEMs score a big one.

Is that what you were referring to, or did I completely take things out of text ?

If they [OEM] save 1 minute on imaging a new machine that equates to substantial time management benefits.

1 minute x 100,000 machines annually = 100,000 minutes/60 minutes = over a month.

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I dont think saving space is the reason.

I think its "less time = less money"

If they can do less, and all charges stay the same - the OEMs score a big one.

Is that what you were referring to, or did I completely take things out of text ?

 

Saving time and money is part of it as well but they've talked about supporting smaller and cheaper devices that only have 16GB of storage and 1GB of ram.  So the OS footprint has to have shrunk, right now a default 8.1 install for the OS alone will take something like 8GB or more, not really good for a cheap tablet that's only got 16GB of space.

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Neowin News had reported about this win8.1 new version 9600.17042 displayed in the MS KB article

 

https://www.neowin.net/news/newer-version-number-for-windows-81-update-1-revealed-on-microsoft-support-page

 

Seems some guys didn't catch the point,The KB itself is trivial, and it properly won't change any build nos.; what it said in the "additional files" section means that it could be installed on a win8.1 build 9600.17042.

 

AFAIK, KB's usually refer to the "base version"(version displayed in DISM), currently in my win8.1Pro, msinfo32 reports 9600.16500, DISM reports the RTM 9600.16384 .  :)

 

 

i.e.: On Mar 9, KB294155 is eligible to be installed on an existing win8.1 build that reports a base version 9600.17042 ..... need I say more?

 

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A MDL member has posted an image "said to be" from OEM's (note: cannot verify if it's real or not), if it's real, then it means the leaked MSU's from WZOR might not be the final release; because if you look at the folder for the most important update KB2919355, if it only consist of the 3 MSU's, it is still larger than the WZOR leak X64+X86+RT combined. 

 

 

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Note that, even so, it only means that the leaked update1 pack might not be final, but as WZOR has reported, and I have also said a few times before, build 9600.17031 is the RTM . And in the download request page of KB2941455, MS has actually unofficially confirmed it, because this KB has to be installed on a RTM platform, and has even called Update1(build 9600.17031) as "SP1".

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This might be a dumb question - but is it possible that the updates that are delivered to OEMs are not "bundled" the same as the files that were leaked by WZOR?  What I mean is, how do we know that what is inside of each of those folders is not an uncompressed version of the files that were leaked by WZOR and on Windows Update?  This would be more convincing if we were looking at an actual MSU file for KB2919335 that was a different size than the leaked version.

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This might be a dumb question - but is it possible that the updates that are delivered to OEMs are not "bundled" the same as the files that were leaked by WZOR?  What I mean is, how do we know that what is inside of each of those folders is not an uncompressed version of the files that were leaked by WZOR and on Windows Update?  This would be more convincing if we were looking at an actual MSU file for KB2919335 that was a different size than the leaked version.

We don't know, unless there would be more infos of the contents in these folders. :)

 

Update: Now we have the infos, it's because the servers MSU's are added:

 

a6119d3e5ddd1a233a09dd79d91067de7b826f85 *KB2919355\Windows8.1\ARM\Windows8.1-KB2919355-arm.msu
e6f4da4d33564419065a7370865faacf9b40ff72 *KB2919355\Windows8.1\X64\Windows8.1-KB2919355-x64.msu
de9df31e42fe034c9a763328326e5852c2b4963d *KB2919355\Windows8.1\X86\Windows8.1-KB2919355-x86.msu
e6f4da4d33564419065a7370865faacf9b40ff72 *KB2919355\WindowsServer2012R2\X64\Windows8.1-KB2919355-x64.msu
506ed7113697c597c2859d295d562fa4311834ec *KB2919442\Windows8.1\ARM\Windows8.1-KB2919442-arm.msu
f97d8290d9d75d96f163095c4cb05e1b9f6986e0 *KB2919442\Windows8.1\X64\Windows8.1-KB2919442-x64.msu
94ee3d715e732ed28c64b8096327375a35f5d211 *KB2919442\Windows8.1\X86\Windows8.1-KB2919442-x86.msu
f97d8290d9d75d96f163095c4cb05e1b9f6986e0 *KB2919442\WindowsServer2012R2\X64\Windows8.1-KB2919442-x64.msu
fe6acf558880d127aef1a759a8c2539afc67b5fb *KB2932046\Windows8.1\ARM\Windows8.1-KB2932046-arm.msu
6aee5fda6e2a6729d1fbae6eac08693acd70d985 *KB2932046\Windows8.1\X64\Windows8.1-KB2932046-x64.msu
bfd8ca4c683ccec26355afc1f2e677f3809cb3d6 *KB2932046\Windows8.1\X86\Windows8.1-KB2932046-x86.msu
6aee5fda6e2a6729d1fbae6eac08693acd70d985 *KB2932046\WindowsServer2012R2\X64\Windows8.1-KB2932046-x64.msu
860c83a0cccc0519111f57a679ae9f9d071315e5 *KB2937592\Windows8.1\ARM\Windows8.1-KB2937592-arm.msu
4abc0a39c9e500c0fbe9c41282169c92315cafc2 *KB2937592\Windows8.1\X64\Windows8.1-KB2937592-x64.msu
96a3416d480bd2b54803df26b8e76cd1d0008d43 *KB2937592\Windows8.1\X86\Windows8.1-KB2937592-x86.msu
4abc0a39c9e500c0fbe9c41282169c92315cafc2 *KB2937592\WindowsServer2012R2\X64\Windows8.1-KB2937592-x64.msu
d4004710f89d5b328e0f9e6446c2bc82b5fba9f6 *Readme.txt
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http://forums.mydigitallife.info/threads/52611-DISCUSSION-Windows-8-1-Spring-2014-Update-RTM/page189?p=888406&viewfull=1#post888406

 

Looks like the hashes are identical to those files leaked by WZOR and through WU.  This should confirm that the files leaked are the final 17031 RTM.

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http://forums.mydigitallife.info/threads/52611-DISCUSSION-Windows-8-1-Spring-2014-Update-RTM/page189?p=888406&viewfull=1#post888406

 

Looks like the hashes are identical to those files leaked by WZOR and through WU.  This should confirm that the files leaked are the final 17031 RTM.

Yup, Those msu's comes with manufacturing documents for OEM's, so, it's final.

 

What's interesting to know will be: If the public(MSDN) release include another rollup, like what they did in last Oct. for win8.1 GA. :)

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MS has announced RTM of SQL Server 2014, and release on April 1.....

http://blogs.technet.com/b/microsoft...z&country=zUSz

Wondering ........ will they also release win8.1Update1 on this famous day too?  :rolleyes:

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MS Direct download links to the 6 KB's :  :)

 

 
 
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I'm just going to wait for WU, besides I haven't updated anything other than defender since back in early February.  Last time I restarted was over 9 weeks ago!

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MS has announced RTM of SQL Server 2014, and release on April 1.....

http://blogs.technet.com/b/microsoft...z&country=zUSz

Wondering ........ will they also release win8.1Update1 on this famous day too?  :rolleyes:

 

From the comments section in Neowin  News:

 

 

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....and tks @seeprime  :)

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I was the one that liked that comment :p

Oh! Reminds me to like it too. :D

 

Actually I have caught some wind on this, but if I said it, people will flame me for "celebrating that special day".

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