PlayStation Now

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There is no native quality, there is compression loss on all of them, relatively much as well, native would eat up 40-50MB, and they wouldn't pay that for their own upstream either, not worth it.

Well they clearly said there were different levels of quality that a user could see, so I wonder what those levels are. If native is impossible, then how close can they get.

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Looks like Sony has taken a page from Sega, and has basically revived the ol' 'Sega TV' that never took off from back in the day.

Can PSNow become the 'Netflix' for gamers?

 

Of course it never took off, how could it with such limited options in local dialup service back then? No clue what they were thinking. But yes with some more tweaking and time I thin PSnow will be the Netflix for gamers and very likely one day be the end all for consoles as we know it. If their servers can ever push Ultra HD at 60fps to me with an app I can download on my TV or Laptop then hell yeah! I say. But that'll be a while and interesting to see how bandwidth caps plays out with that.

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Not really dialup era 4-5 years ago, but yes internet services have improved heaps since then.

The bigger problem is consistency across the globe. If the future for Sony and MS is streaming games, a big hurdle is that. Minimum speed is big too, but the huge variance in connection quality will slow down progress.

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The bigger problem is consistency across the globe. If the future for Sony and MS is streaming games, a big hurdle is that. Minimum speed is big too, but the huge variance in connection quality will slow down progress.

 

http://www.netindex.com/download/allcountries/

 

Here is the average download speed of each country based on real-time tests via speed tests website.

 

The Global Average is 16.32 Mbps.

 

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PlayStation Now recommended internet speed & pricing

?we recommend a 5MBPS+ connection? as the best internet speed for PlayStation Now. Apparently this is the minimum bandwidth for low latency and good picture quality. Shuman adds that, ?the stream is instant ? no downloading, no installing, no patching. You get the most up-to-date version of the game streaming to your device from our remote servers. You also get Trophies, Friends List, and other PSN features? and multiplayer modes.

Shuman does say that, ?PS Now tests your connection of each game and optimizes for quality if you are above the minimum requirements?. The aim is, ?to make the gameplay experience feel as if the game is being played locally on [the gamer's] device?. If your connection does drop then PlayStation Now ?may temporarily and adaptively reduce your resolution to maintain a responsive experience?.

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I have a 100 Mbps line, so 5 Mbps doesn't seem big to me. Plus PlayStation Now is just an optional extra, maybe it will help push ISP's to improve their services?

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http://www.netindex.com/download/allcountries/

 

Here is the average download speed of each country based on real-time tests via speed tests website.

 

The Global Average is 16.32 Mbps.

 

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PlayStation Now recommended internet speed & pricing

?we recommend a 5MBPS+ connection? as the best internet speed for PlayStation Now. Apparently this is the minimum bandwidth for low latency and good picture quality. Shuman adds that, ?the stream is instant ? no downloading, no installing, no patching. You get the most up-to-date version of the game streaming to your device from our remote servers. You also get Trophies, Friends List, and other PSN features? and multiplayer modes.

Shuman does say that, ?PS Now tests your connection of each game and optimizes for quality if you are above the minimum requirements?. The aim is, ?to make the gameplay experience feel as if the game is being played locally on [the gamer's] device?. If your connection does drop then PlayStation Now ?may temporarily and adaptively reduce your resolution to maintain a responsive experience?.

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I have a 100 Mbps line, so 5 Mbps doesn't seem big to me. Plus PlayStation Now is just an optional extra, maybe it will help push ISP's to improve their services?

 

Not likely. Definitely not in the UK.

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I have a 100 Mbps line, so 5 Mbps doesn't seem big to me. Plus PlayStation Now is just an optional extra, maybe it will help push ISP's to improve their services?

Wishful thinking. It would have been more likely for them to cave and improve if Microsoft had stuck to their original digital plans, much like how many ISPs in the US beefed up broadband services when Microsoft required it for Xbox Live in 2002 instead of caving and allowing Live over dial-up (and that was back when Xbox wasn't even that popular in general).

Though if Now becomes wildly popular it's possible, but I doubt we'll see it until MS and Sony really push digital over physical. People keep complaining about it because they don't have great internet service, but it's a catch 22 - if companies like MS and Sony don't strike first with a need for better services, the ISPs won't bother creating better services, at least not in any sort of timely manner.

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http://www.netindex.com/download/allcountries/

 

Here is the average download speed of each country based on real-time tests via speed tests website.

 

The Global Average is 16.32 Mbps.

As I said before, its not just about the raw speed.

You could have a 1GB/s connection but if your connection has fairly regular drops that makes it fairly unreliable when your doing lag sensitive tasks, it ruins the experience.

For most things we do online, if our connection drops for a second during usage, we may not notice at all, but when it comes to things like online gaming or streaming of any kind, those quick drops can make the experience worse.

That's the reliability factor I'm talking about.

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Bad news, Canada

 

Sony unlikely to launch PlayStation Now in Canada this summer (Update)

 

PlayStation Now will not launch this summer in Canada. Sony also said that the company has ?no current plans to bring PlayStation Now to Canada, although it may launch the service [here] in the future.?

 

Also going to make this an official topic for now, until at least the beta is out.

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The reality is that it must be a slow roll out.

Its pretty unfair to expect Sony to roll out a service like this in a quick fashion. If they have to build or lease more servers across the globe, that takes time. If they need to test in each region before launching, that takes time as well.

This isn't a one size fits all service. Behind the scenes, Sony is sweating the details, trying to work out the server backend needed to serve each region.

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hope i get into the beta

 

when is it supposed to start? there are some ps3 games i'd like to play on my PS4 & i'd rather not have to get a ps3 just so i can play them (i mostly want to play the "tales of" games :))

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hope i get into the beta

 

when is it supposed to start? there are some ps3 games i'd like to play on my PS4 & i'd rather not have to get a ps3 just so i can play them (i mostly want to play the "tales of" games :))

I believe the first release will only be first party titles, but maybe that will change quickly. I'm with you though, this is something I could see myself using. I guess price is a factor though as well.

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I believe the first release will only be first party titles, but maybe that will change quickly. I'm with you though, this is something I could see myself using. I guess price is a factor though as well.

would be great if it's free for + subscribers. if not maybe a good discount :)

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would be great if it's free for + subscribers. if not maybe a good discount :)

Well if its free for ps+ then its an amazing deal. I have a hard time thinking it will considering the expense Sony has paid to get this all up and running, but we should know in a few months, certainly by the time E3 rolls around.

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PlayStation Now: Here?s How Long Every Game Available Takes to Load in the Beta

by Giuseppe Nelva

 

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Sony Computer Entertainment is pushing the PlayStation Now cloud service quite hard, and the application is currently being beta tested, but how long do games take to load from when you launch it to the initial splash screen?

 

Today a reader that wished to remain anonymous sent us a list of the times it takes for each game currently available in the service to go through the PlayStation Now sharing procedure from launch to the splash screen. He also provided video as evidence, asking not to publish it to protect his identity (and account).

Here?s the list:

  • Dead or Alive 5: 51.10
  • Disgaea 4: 47.12
  • Papo & Yo: 43.10
  • Killzone 3: 53.49
  • Darksiders II: 50.53
  • MX vs. ATV: Alive: 48.15
  • Ninja Gaiden 3: 50.89
  • Shatter: 39.77
  • Shadow of the Colossus: 53.98
  • Puppeteer: 44.16
Our tipster also gave us full details on his internet connection (via Speedtest) for reference, as it does seem to influence the loading times considerably. 
  • Ping: 17ms
  • Download speed: 7.65 Mbps
  • Upload speed: 1.88 Mbps

The loading times appear highly variable from game to game, and considering how much data needs to travel between the datacenter and the local PS3, they definitely don?t seem too bad. We also have to remember that the service is still in beta, there?s still room for improvement.

 

 

http://www.dualshockers.com/2014/02/14/playstation-now-heres-how-long-every-game-available-takes-to-load-in-the-beta/

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