WZOR Talks About Windows (Codename) 9, Is a DP Imminent?

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From my understanding, Microsoft has realized that Windows 8 brand is dead. They tried 8.1, didn't work. Update even less. And just like Vista Brand it never recovered from the early media and user bash.

 

I can see them releasing an Update 2 in 2 or 3 moths from now, with just some cumulative bug fixes and maybe a feature or two. But Windows 8.2? No, they are aiming for Windows 9 to revitalize the branding, just like Windows 7 did.

 

Windows 9 by the this time next year should be RTM or very close, there's no time and will for other small releases.

 

Heck we should be seeing Windows 9 beta even by the end of the year.

 

This is just my opinion :)

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FaiKee

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This indeed doesn't make any kind of sence. Why would Microsoft release 2 previews of 2 different operating systems with the same purpose in the same timeframe. Also, this would make that Windows 9 follow upon Windows 8.2/8.5/whatever, extremely quick...

Couldn't comment if this makes sense or not, just reporting on what I heard. :)

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I doubt they'll split up the code base or the branding, what I think we'll get is just a touch specific SKU without the desktop and a desktop specific SKU with new menu and windowed metro apps with options in both to mix and match.

 

Windows RT should be gone as a brand though as they bring it and Windows Phone together into one.

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I doubt they'll split up the code base or the branding, what I think we'll get is just a touch specific SKU without the desktop and a desktop specific SKU with new menu and windowed metro apps with options in both to mix and match.

 

Windows RT should be gone as a brand though as they bring it and Windows Phone together into one.

That's kind of what I said and suggested in early 2012 in an editorial I wrote :P

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That doesn't really fit in with the vision of a unified platform, separate S'KU's and versions without desktops just creates confusion, least of all how that would work on a device like the Surface Pro.  I think they will continue to evolve the single platform, likely along the lines they have been doing and they did to a small extent with office.  This will mean they won't skimp on the customisations / options like they did with the original windows 8 (not giving users the option of booting to desktop) and we will likely see more detection of when touch hardware is in use to scale the menus and buttons, like what they did with office.

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I doubt they'll split up the code base or the branding, what I think we'll get is just a touch specific SKU without the desktop and a desktop specific SKU with new menu and windowed metro apps with options in both to mix and match.

 

Windows RT should be gone as a brand though as they bring it and Windows Phone together into one.

 

So a touch-only version for "pure" tablets, and a hybrid that you can make more desktop or more Modern as it suits you? I'm generally against splitting the UI concepts up by form factor, but this version might work.

 

Though I'm not sure what purpose a touch-specific version would have. Even the RT limited desktop still has some value to it.  It still seems like unnecessary pigeonholing to me.

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FaiKee

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That doesn't really fit in with the vision of a unified platform, separate S'KU's and versions without desktops just creates confusion, least of all how that would work on a device like the Surface Pro.  I think they will continue to evolve the single platform, likely along the lines they have been doing and they did to a small extent with office.  This will mean they won't skimp on the customisations / options like they did with the original windows 8 (not giving users the option of booting to desktop) and we will likely see more detection of when touch hardware is in use to scale the menus and buttons, like what they did with office.

Don't worry, MS will figure it out, that's their problem, not ours. :)

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So a touch-only version for "pure" tablets, and a hybrid that you can make more desktop or more Modern as it suits you? I'm generally against splitting the UI concepts up by form factor, but this version might work.

 

Though I'm not sure what purpose a touch-specific version would have. Even the RT limited desktop still has some value to it.  It still seems like unnecessary pigeonholing to me.

 

The touch specific version without the desktop would be the OS that's both on phone and tablets, so it'd run the same universal apps and share more UI elements and overall be the same OS code wise.  That's what I think everyone expects as Windows RT isn't going to stick around as it is right now.   So a touch centric, no desktop OS for Phone and Tablets up to, say 8-9" and then a more option packed full x86 OS that can have the desktop as well (like we get now with x86 tablets) for 10" and bigger devices that has the same touch start screen UI as well that the other one does.   Finally you have the more desktop, non-touch centric option with the new menu and windowed store apps.  The key between those though is that users can pick if they want the new menu or the full start screen, that'd be the best way.

 

So really all we're talking about is taking basically WP and RT, putting them together for phones and mini-tablets and then full x86 Windows with the desktop for 10" devices and up, the version OEMs still pay licensing for btw as 9" and smaller screens is one of the requirements to get Windows at $0.

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FaiKee

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LOL, how is your broadband going? Another 3G download ...... :laugh:

 

Tks for the heads up by @Whazzupsuperfly in MDL Forums

 

Original post: http://www.eightforums.com/windows-8-news/48214-what-we-know-so-far-about-upcoming-windows-8-1-update-3.html#post393232

 

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basically

 

 

uncle, TSYA - "Myths and legends born in 2014."

 
All friends
Ku!
 
I (uncle-TSYA) could not until today to comment on the events which caused a noise stories that happened to Alex K. (hereinafter AK) in March this year.
 
Any public speech and comments made by me, could adversely affect the course of history and the fate of the individual.
I could not afford that either comment in connection with emerging network false rumors and insinuations in my address at the time when proceedings are against a person whose case is not related to me personally or anyone else from my friends .
 
As said in such cases the proverb: "The Word of silver, but silence - gold."
 
I want to note that this story was originally drawn to the ears Wzor.net our foes.
History occurred with Alex K. in no way connected with the uncle-and Tsya WZor.net
But it directly negative impact on the fate of the project Wzor.net
 
A number of personal circumstances and this story forced me to take a number of radical solutions: Was suspended all public work projects were also frozen all contacts with internal information sources. All have gone into hiding ... It was all done to protect!
 
Further fate and forms of work will be determined Wzor.net closer to the fall of this year, I hope this time I can solve personal problems.
Contributions tweet and blog will soon resume.
 
 
and so, summarize the basic absurdity, and the rest will wither innuendo and fiction themselves
 
in particular, some English-speaking sources and behind them and Russian
argue that the alleged Alexey K. (hereinafter AK) Registrant Wzor.net in 2001 and so involved in his work ...
 
Alexey K. never had and has no relation to the domain Wzor.net its work and functioning, and the more he had no relation to his desk and support!
 
Indeed, the domain name was coined Wzor.net me te-uncle TSYA.
Yes, the domain was registered at my request in 2001, the other at the time lived in one of the Baltic countries, followed by the domain registrar changed several times.
At this time, the domain does not belong to me personally, there are trustees authorized to accompany him.
By the same principle, and other registered domain names associated with the uncle-TSYA.
 
The question arises: Wzor it?
No of course, Alex K. and WZor not be it could not :-)
 
Alas, I (uncle-TSYA) Alekseya.K know. only as a reader of his blog on virtualization that he was within the company Microsoft, his knowledge and experience to implement virtualization solutions are unique.
I personally do not know him, and I do not think he ever wants to meet me, especially in light of the events happened to him, and it's not real. Is it that you have to enroll in the Learning Center "Stars and C" and arrive in Moscow :)
But by itself, I wish all those concerned that this story has ended and quickly to Alex as soon as possible was in the circle of relatives and friends.
Personally, Alexei K. wish to write a very fascinating book on the basis of misadventures.
I am very much worried about this man because it is really high-class specialist and the stories of people who know him personally a great man and friend.
 
so who is Wzor?
recently his name was allegedly Ingvar "hot whether Estonian, or Finnish guy and can Latvian", and he can melancholic Carl or his name Savely, or maybe Dan Arthur, people even say that he or BillGeyts Ballmer, whether he lives in France, the Baltic States, Scandinavia, Bulgaria, or even in Russia, and maybe in the U.S.?
Write that it works in Nokia, Skype to Microsoft, Adobe, or maybe just on a construction site? ...
What's the difference who is WZor ....
many in the ru-board know him over the years, someone encounters on a daily basis, who comes to visit, have a beer or take a dip in the warm sea ...
 
WZor is a collective image behind which stand for many years, various people want to see it in Stockholm, Marseilles, but for God's sake, have it in Riga, as well as in Russia but all over the world ...
 
PS: do not need to invent anything and compose the whole story guys-Tsya available in the archives of py-boards
 
see you soon
yours,
uncle, TSYA
06/19/2014
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From WZor: http://forum.ru-board.com/topic.cgi?forum=29&topic=7345&start=2160#17

 

Edit:  Tks to @Super User who posted a well-translated version in MDL Forums

 

Information stated in *** is true! Only false thing is about the size of the update. 3 GB is size of a full Windows 8.1 Update 2 x86 or x64 distribution, not a size of the update.
As far as I know, update is almost finished, although I don?t have information about that?s new in it. (The other day I?ve saw a live build based on Windows 8.1 with a very interesting "Start" button, but the pictures I?ve taken with Nokia turned out to be bad quality, because environment wasn?t suitable for a photo shoot - the managers of company was running back and forth.)
It is known that all distributions will get Update 2 which will be delivered similarly as Windows 8.1 Update 1. Windows 8.1 Update 2 will be free for Windows 8.1 Update 1 users but users running Windows 8 will need new keys if they?ll try to do a clean install. Those who will buy computers preloaded with Windows 8.1 Update 2 is expected to get substantial discount when upgrading to Windows 9. It even may be free.
Those who are running Windows 8.0 will have two options. The first option is to upgrade to Windows 8.1 Update 1 for free and then do upgrade to Windows 8.1 Update 2. The second option is to purchase Windows 8.1 Update 2 from Windows Store.
At this time I cannot give an exact date of signing of the RTM. Although next week (23 - 27 June) a very significant event is planned inside Microsoft. I'm not sure what will happen, but most likely the first RTM-Escrow build will be signed off.
In fact, Microsoft has changed the internal procedure of accessing "builds shop". Now every employee within the company who applies for a test receives an "individual build", which is compiled automatically by a special internal local interface. In other words, now employees of test units have no free access to so-called distributions "files in bulk."
Internal policy changes affected access of remote offices and Microsoft?s representatives in other countries too. In particular, Chinese representative office now has limited access to the "build shop". I know this, because sanctions and restrictions affected Russian representatives too. An auditing of corporate sales is strengthened right now.
In fact, the most interesting things are going in China, where Microsoft executives are shocked by a series of decisions of the Chinese government. Timing of Windows 9 now depends on how these problems will be solved. Our sources say that Microsoft is panicking about the fate of Windows 9. It?s very likely, that Microsoft will release Windows 9 Enterprise Edition without integration of Microsoft?s cloud services and with the ability to disable "Metro 2.0" interface. This possibility is being actively discussed at Microsoft.

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FaiKee

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3GB Size is Mistake

2 Day ahead, This Autumn update will be like Spring (RTM-Escrow)

 

And most Important think about Win9 Without Cloud service?

Windows365 now Windows 9 To?  :p

Windows 365, Windows 8.1 Update (2/3), Windows Threshold, and Windows 9 are 4 different things.

 

I saw some reports said Windows Update 2 will be called Windows 8.2 - this is simply baloney. :)

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Windows 365, Windows 8.1 Update (2/3), Windows Threshold, and Windows 9 are 4 different things.

 

I saw some reports said Windows Update 2 will be called Windows 8.2 - this is simply baloney. :)

 

i mean about Cloud service

 

if the Window 365 It is finished (Cloud) 
Also similar to Windows 9? (Cloud)  :)
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i mean about Cloud service

 

if the Window 365 It is finished (Cloud) 
Also similar to Windows 9? (Cloud)  :)

 

Yes and no, it uses the same Windows core, it's like comparing Office 365 with Office, in Office 365 you basically download and install the same Office applications, right?

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