quigley0 Posted December 7, 2003 Share Posted December 7, 2003 So, I am from the baltimore area, so this is probably biased. Ray Lewis is the best defensive player i've ever seen, so I was wondering, could he be the greatest player ever?? I try to look at it from a domination standpoint. There is only one player who I can think of that was more dominating. Jim Brown. So, my top 5... Jim Brown Ray Lewis Barry Sanders Dan Marino Walter Payton What are your top -5 ? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/121606-ray-lewis-greatest-player-ever/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
.... Posted December 7, 2003 Share Posted December 7, 2003 Ray Lewis isn't in my top 50. Mine...in no particular order.... Emmitt Smith Joe Montana Jerry Rice Walter Payton Don Hutson Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/121606-ray-lewis-greatest-player-ever/#findComment-1445397 Share on other sites More sharing options...
-=SD=- Posted December 7, 2003 Share Posted December 7, 2003 Barry Sanders Jerry Rice LT (Lawrence Taylor) Reggie White Joe Montana/Steve Young (i was a sf fan for years so I am biased to say them hehe) I don't think Lewis is even close to being the best player ever, two defensive guys in my list were better than he is imo. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/121606-ray-lewis-greatest-player-ever/#findComment-1445418 Share on other sites More sharing options...
-=SD=- Posted December 7, 2003 Share Posted December 7, 2003 Emmitt Smith *note his career was behind 300+ lb lineman, give that line to Barry and he would have 20,000+ career yards :p ;) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/121606-ray-lewis-greatest-player-ever/#findComment-1445427 Share on other sites More sharing options...
.... Posted December 7, 2003 Share Posted December 7, 2003 Lets not go there. Barry wouldn't know how to use a good line if it hit him right between the eyes. He's a e/w runner. I won't go down the Best RB debate, cause both Emmitt and Sanders lose to Payton.....and I am a Cowboy fan. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/121606-ray-lewis-greatest-player-ever/#findComment-1445445 Share on other sites More sharing options...
quigley0 Posted December 7, 2003 Author Share Posted December 7, 2003 Don't forget that Jim Brown retired early too. But, as far as Ray goes, you just have to see a game in baltimore to see all the pomp and circumstance that goes on around him. I have never seen a defense player get his own personal introduction, let alone a 5 minute intrance with his own fireworks and everything. Emmit is good, Barry is better, but I think that Brown is probably the best RB.. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/121606-ray-lewis-greatest-player-ever/#findComment-1445496 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Circaflex Posted December 7, 2003 Share Posted December 7, 2003 *note his career was behind 300+ lb lineman, give that line to Barry and he would have 20,000+ career yards :p ;) pfft maybe barry shouldnt have retried im sick of people saying that oh if barry this and barry couldve that, get over it, emmit stayed in the game and got the record :crazy: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/121606-ray-lewis-greatest-player-ever/#findComment-1445510 Share on other sites More sharing options...
.... Posted December 7, 2003 Share Posted December 7, 2003 But, as far as Ray goes, you just have to see a game in baltimore to see all the pomp and circumstance that goes on around him. I have never seen a defense player get his own personal introduction, let alone a 5 minute intrance with his own fireworks and everything. That's because it takes that long for him to celebrate himself as he walks out to the field. It's like he has a seizure or something. Baltimore has to do something exciting to pass the time. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/121606-ray-lewis-greatest-player-ever/#findComment-1445540 Share on other sites More sharing options...
-=SD=- Posted December 7, 2003 Share Posted December 7, 2003 I'm mad at Barry for quitting too, I'm talking his career not how he ended it... The Lions sucked ass for so many years, with no offensive line and yet he is in the #3 spot for total rushing yards, I think that says a lot about him. I honestly think he is the best RB every to play the game, and yes over Payton. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/121606-ray-lewis-greatest-player-ever/#findComment-1445542 Share on other sites More sharing options...
-=SD=- Posted December 7, 2003 Share Posted December 7, 2003 That's because it takes that long for him to celebrate himself as he walks out to the field. It's like he has a seizure or something. Baltimore has to do something exciting to pass the time. :laugh: That dance thing he does annoys the heck out of me. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/121606-ray-lewis-greatest-player-ever/#findComment-1445547 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remote Posted December 7, 2003 Share Posted December 7, 2003 So, I am from the baltimore area, so this is probably biased. Ray Lewis is the best defensive player i've ever seen, so I was wondering, could he be the greatest player ever?? I try to look at it from a domination standpoint. There is only one player who I can think of that was more dominating. Jim Brown. So, my top 5... Jim Brown Ray Lewis Barry Sanders Dan Marino Walter Payton What are your top -5 ? Where in baltimore? Im from Towson and originally in Owings mills Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/121606-ray-lewis-greatest-player-ever/#findComment-1445597 Share on other sites More sharing options...
quigley0 Posted December 7, 2003 Author Share Posted December 7, 2003 Well, actually the "area". I Used to live in Towson but now I live in Annapolis. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/121606-ray-lewis-greatest-player-ever/#findComment-1445605 Share on other sites More sharing options...
.... Posted December 7, 2003 Share Posted December 7, 2003 Great. Now group hug, and lets get back to talking about how rediculous it is to think that Ray Lewis is the best player of all time. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/121606-ray-lewis-greatest-player-ever/#findComment-1445727 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanctified Veteran Posted December 7, 2003 Veteran Share Posted December 7, 2003 Emmit Smith Barry Sanders Walter Payton Derrick Brooks Terrel Davis (Yes, him, he just played 5 seasons and he was the best then) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/121606-ray-lewis-greatest-player-ever/#findComment-1445731 Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnaBonger Posted December 7, 2003 Share Posted December 7, 2003 No votes for Priest Holmes? He's dominated the league rushers the last 3 - 4 seasons... Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/121606-ray-lewis-greatest-player-ever/#findComment-1445764 Share on other sites More sharing options...
aem4162 Posted December 7, 2003 Share Posted December 7, 2003 didn't he kill someone? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/121606-ray-lewis-greatest-player-ever/#findComment-1445767 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanctified Veteran Posted December 7, 2003 Veteran Share Posted December 7, 2003 No votes for Priest Holmes? He's dominated the league rushers the last 3 - 4 seasons... 1.- this season he is not dominating at all, just in the TD deparment, but most of those TD are 5 yards or less, people like Emmit smith worked a lot more that him 2.- just because 4 good seasons doesnt give him that big credit, besides his career started in a very mediocre way Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/121606-ray-lewis-greatest-player-ever/#findComment-1445773 Share on other sites More sharing options...
devn00b Posted December 7, 2003 Share Posted December 7, 2003 Jr Seau. Jerome Bettis (the bus). Warren Sapp. ** edit ** Ladanian Tomlinson Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/121606-ray-lewis-greatest-player-ever/#findComment-1445779 Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnaBonger Posted December 7, 2003 Share Posted December 7, 2003 ,Dec 7 2003, 18:03] 1.- this season he is not dominating at all, just in the TD deparment, but most of those TD are 5 yards or less, people like Emmit smith worked a lot more that him2.- just because 4 good seasons doesnt give him that big credit, besides his career started in a very mediocre way I agree with your points SD... Yes his career did start off rather mediocre but by saying something like Emmitt worked harder, that tells me that KC has a better line than Dallas had and Priest gets more opporunities for the run because his line is able to open up the field for him. In Emmitts defense though, the game has changed alot since his hay-day... Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/121606-ray-lewis-greatest-player-ever/#findComment-1445795 Share on other sites More sharing options...
newsgeek Posted December 7, 2003 Share Posted December 7, 2003 :laugh: <joke>The greatest players are on the eagles team right now!</joke> Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/121606-ray-lewis-greatest-player-ever/#findComment-1445863 Share on other sites More sharing options...
-=SD=- Posted December 8, 2003 Share Posted December 8, 2003 Great. Now group hug, and lets get back to talking about how rediculous it is to think that Ray Lewis is the best player of all time. Agreed, I think he isn't in top100, how bout that :) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/121606-ray-lewis-greatest-player-ever/#findComment-1445945 Share on other sites More sharing options...
.... Posted December 8, 2003 Share Posted December 8, 2003 No votes for Priest Holmes? He's dominated the league rushers the last 3 - 4 seasons... Actually he's dominated a relatively weak pack of rushers for the last two to three seasons. Holmes isn't even near the top ten RB of all time, IMO. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/121606-ray-lewis-greatest-player-ever/#findComment-1446337 Share on other sites More sharing options...
.... Posted December 8, 2003 Share Posted December 8, 2003 In Emmitts defense though, the game has changed alot since his hay-day... Er...his heyday was....um..7-10 years ago. How has the game changed? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/121606-ray-lewis-greatest-player-ever/#findComment-1446343 Share on other sites More sharing options...
quigley0 Posted December 8, 2003 Author Share Posted December 8, 2003 Ok, so maybe he isn't the greatest player of all time, but, can you at least say he is the best defenseman in the league today?? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/121606-ray-lewis-greatest-player-ever/#findComment-1446719 Share on other sites More sharing options...
.... Posted December 8, 2003 Share Posted December 8, 2003 Ok, so maybe he isn't the greatest player of all time, but, can you at least say he is the best defenseman in the league today?? No. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/121606-ray-lewis-greatest-player-ever/#findComment-1446854 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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