redfish Posted October 3, 2014 Share Posted October 3, 2014 The the base fallback "classic" is missing major and large parts of the GUI elements used in modern windows, resulting in those just being white areas. The classic interface doesn't even look good mixed with the modern / XP era GUI elements that... in order for it to look good, they'd have to redesign everything for it. Until then, its just a weird Frankenstein interface and I can't imagine why it appeals to anyone. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1230329-will-windows-9-reintroduce-the-classic-theme/page/3/#findComment-596601679 Share on other sites More sharing options...
neufuse Veteran Posted October 3, 2014 Veteran Share Posted October 3, 2014 Yes, Windows 9 will bring back the classic UI.... problem is, windows 9 doesn't exist... so.... :shiftyninja: DConnell 1 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1230329-will-windows-9-reintroduce-the-classic-theme/page/3/#findComment-596601687 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Active. Posted October 3, 2014 Share Posted October 3, 2014 Windows 9 will bring back the classic UI. man...windows 9 really was the best windows version ever... :cry: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1230329-will-windows-9-reintroduce-the-classic-theme/page/3/#findComment-596601691 Share on other sites More sharing options...
redfish Posted October 3, 2014 Share Posted October 3, 2014 man...windows 9 really was the best windows version ever... :cry: Like Leisure Suit Larry 4: The Missing Floppies. DConnell 1 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1230329-will-windows-9-reintroduce-the-classic-theme/page/3/#findComment-596601711 Share on other sites More sharing options...
neufuse Veteran Posted October 3, 2014 Veteran Share Posted October 3, 2014 Like Leisure Suit Larry 4: The Missing Floppies. there's a game that I haven't heard of in ages... I remember how "risque" that game was considered in the day Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1230329-will-windows-9-reintroduce-the-classic-theme/page/3/#findComment-596601713 Share on other sites More sharing options...
redfish Posted October 3, 2014 Share Posted October 3, 2014 there's a game that I haven't heard of in ages... I remember how "risque" that game was considered in the day I was reading that the old time fans of the series were upset by the newer games made with 'Larry Lovage', the original character's nephew, because they found them smutty instead of just being risqu?. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1230329-will-windows-9-reintroduce-the-classic-theme/page/3/#findComment-596601945 Share on other sites More sharing options...
xrobwx71 Posted October 3, 2014 Share Posted October 3, 2014 Absolutely... not. That avatar looks like a schoolbus with a giant blue tire.. :) :shifty: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1230329-will-windows-9-reintroduce-the-classic-theme/page/3/#findComment-596601957 Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Neo Posted October 3, 2014 Share Posted October 3, 2014 Somehow I don't think the OP will be happy there... osx_design_hero.jpg You can disable all transparency system-wide with a single checkbox in OS X Yosemite. alex_d2w and Active. 2 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1230329-will-windows-9-reintroduce-the-classic-theme/page/3/#findComment-596601967 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tews Posted October 9, 2014 Share Posted October 9, 2014 You can disable all transparency system-wide with a single checkbox in OS X Yosemite. Well doo dah... Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1230329-will-windows-9-reintroduce-the-classic-theme/page/3/#findComment-596608051 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anixx Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 No, I don't think that Microsoft will bring back the Classic theme. This article explains why Microsoft made the decision to keep the Desktop Window Manager enabled at all times in Windows 8. http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/hh848042%28v=vs.85%29.aspx It is possible to use Classic theme without disabling the DWM via hacking: http://web.archive.org/web/20140819031246/http://forum.thinkpads.com/viewtopic.php?f=67&t=113024 Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1230329-will-windows-9-reintroduce-the-classic-theme/page/3/#findComment-596637783 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anixx Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 Classic is what you normally see in Enterprise, and it gives Windows a bad, ugly perception. Classic theme has the best look, the most clear look and it is the most space-efficient. With Windows 8, they eliminated the ugly basic battleship grey and Windows 7 gradient heavy, washed out colored basic themes. One can set the classic theme to any color they prefer, it is the most customizable theme. alex_d2w 1 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1230329-will-windows-9-reintroduce-the-classic-theme/page/3/#findComment-596637785 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anixx Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 Why? What benefit does it have on any computer in use today? For instance to have a standardized look. Now every new Windows version has its own theme which may be not liked by somebody or which can be incompatible with sortware or which may confuse people. There should be one standard thing. alex_d2w 1 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1230329-will-windows-9-reintroduce-the-classic-theme/page/3/#findComment-596637791 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anixx Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 That's not how it works. when you have some education and experience in high level developement of OS software you can talk about what keeping and adding elements affects and costs. As I said just the QnA for having it there doubles. of course since the classic isn't technically in windows and isn't used except for fallback it isn't required for full testing. a basic skin would require to be tested in EVERY POSSIBLE use case test scenario along with the normal skin. Microsoft introduce a new skin in every new version of Windows now. And admittedly all themes are more buggy than Classic starting with XP. Win2000 had no theme bugs, Win7 has a LOT. alex_d2w 1 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1230329-will-windows-9-reintroduce-the-classic-theme/page/3/#findComment-596637795 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anixx Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 The classic interface doesn't even look good mixed with the modern / XP era GUI elements that... in order for it to look good, they'd have to redesign everything for it. Until then, its just a weird Frankenstein interface and I can't imagine why it appeals to anyone. If an element does not respect theming and designed for only one theme, it is a badly written element. alex_d2w 1 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1230329-will-windows-9-reintroduce-the-classic-theme/page/3/#findComment-596637809 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkeallison Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 For instance to have a standardized look. Now every new Windows version has its own theme which may be not liked by somebody or which can be incompatible with sortware or which may confuse people. There should be one standard thing. Not really. Every Two versions have their own theme. E,g Vista and 7. 8 and 8.1 all share similar themes Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1230329-will-windows-9-reintroduce-the-classic-theme/page/3/#findComment-596637815 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Designby Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 windows vista 2009 and 2014 Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1230329-will-windows-9-reintroduce-the-classic-theme/page/3/#findComment-596637817 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dot Matrix Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 Classic theme has the best look, the most clear look and it is the most space-efficient. One can set the classic theme to any color they prefer, it is the most customizable theme. The Classic theme suffered from being too bland. It's a classic 90's look that just doesn't really need to come back. Plus, I can change colors in Windows Vista, 7, 8.1, and 10. So, I'm not really sure what point you're making there. Aero and Metro are both as space efficient. Designby 1 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1230329-will-windows-9-reintroduce-the-classic-theme/page/3/#findComment-596637819 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anixx Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 The Classic theme suffered from being too bland. It's a classic 90's look that just doesn't really need to come back. Win8 theme is more like the '80s. Plus, I can change colors in Windows Vista, 7, 8.1, and 10. So, I'm not really sure what point you're making there. U cannot change the colors as u wish, nor the size of the elements. Aero and Metro are both as space efficient. Incorrect. WinClassic is the most dense theme. Order_66 1 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1230329-will-windows-9-reintroduce-the-classic-theme/page/3/#findComment-596637881 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dot Matrix Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 U cannot change the colors as u wish, nor the size of the elements.Of course you can. Search for "Display", and you have options to change the sizes of screen elements there. Incorrect. WinClassic is the most dense theme.That's not always a good thing. A good UI makes proper use of whitespace. The classic UI has too many elements that just didn't need to be there, creating a busy UI. Plus, the classic theme doesn't scale. What are you going to do when you get a high resolution monitor? It would be all but impossible to see what's on your screen. The classic theme also does not fit in with Microsoft's 'modern' marketing scheme. Anibal P 1 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1230329-will-windows-9-reintroduce-the-classic-theme/page/3/#findComment-596637889 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anixx Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 Of course you can. Search for "Display", and you have options to change the sizes of screen elements there. In Windows 7 there is no such option for non-classic themes. Also there is no option to change the colors of elements (such as selection color), except editiong the .msstyle file with a resource hacker. Plus, the classic theme doesn't scale. What are you going to do when you get a high resolution monitor? It would be all but impossible to see what's on your screen. In Classic theme u can adjust the size of the elements and fonts. But honestly I never had a monitor with which I would want to make the elements bigger, I currently have a 1920x1200 monitor and my only concern is how to make the elements smaller and desier. The classic theme also does not fit in with Microsoft's 'modern' marketing scheme. What do u mean? If u mean the "modern" applications, they do not fit with ANY desktop theme, including Aero. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1230329-will-windows-9-reintroduce-the-classic-theme/page/3/#findComment-596637905 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lirodon Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 This is why. (Yes, I'm bringing her back, mainly because this kinda reminds me of it) Classic mode has regressed in quality ever since Windows Vista. It's shocking that they managed to make its UI changes work on the Aero UI layout, but what would you rather do? Shed legacy components, or keep trying to adapt ancient paradigms on modern systems? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1230329-will-windows-9-reintroduce-the-classic-theme/page/3/#findComment-596637949 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Frank B. Subscriber² Posted November 2, 2014 Subscriber² Share Posted November 2, 2014 This is why. (Yes, I'm bringing her back, mainly because this kinda reminds me of it) Classic mode has regressed in quality ever since Windows Vista. It's shocking that they managed to make its UI changes work on the Aero UI layout, but what would you rather do? Shed legacy components, or keep trying to adapt ancient paradigms on modern systems? I lol'd at the screenshot. Who knows where the accursed one is these days... Edit: For your viewing pleasure: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1230329-will-windows-9-reintroduce-the-classic-theme/page/3/#findComment-596637957 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lirodon Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 Who knows where the accursed one is these days... Apparently that ancient software still works on Windows 10 TP. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1230329-will-windows-9-reintroduce-the-classic-theme/page/3/#findComment-596637967 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anibal P Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 I'm glad classic is dead, good riddance At work we have moved to 7/8 and at first a few fools complained that it "looks different" unlike some I never mentioned the classic theme in 7, guess what, all the whinging like a baby stopped once they started USING windows 7/8, hell there was more useless crying over the XP-7 change than the 7-8 changes Moral of the story, suck it up and get over it, the new UIs are just better in every way DConnell 1 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1230329-will-windows-9-reintroduce-the-classic-theme/page/3/#findComment-596637973 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dot Matrix Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 Edit: For your viewing pleasure: Oh God no. :| Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1230329-will-windows-9-reintroduce-the-classic-theme/page/3/#findComment-596637991 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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