Windows 10 Preview (How do you like it?)

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FunkyMike

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I have just installed the x64 version on an old hp pavillon notebook. intel centrino 2. runs very nice :-) well i cheated, i switched the drive with an old intel ssd, but still. very impressive that it runs that well on that "old" hardware.

 

What gfx card is this old pavilion using? Nvidia?

 

 

oh i was too quick. the 32bit version worked well. the 64x does not. when i click on the start menu it does not appear. too bad.

 
That is a bug btw and can be fixed!
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Intersect

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Currently using the 64bit version in vmwareplayer as using virtual box even with the guest additions i was unable to get the native resolution to display correctly with out having scroll bars.

 looking forward to more builds and have submitted a few bugs :D

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chrisj1968

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Currently using the 64bit version in vmwareplayer as using virtual box even with the guest additions i was unable to get the native resolution to display correctly with out having scroll bars.

 looking forward to more builds and have submitted a few bugs :D

is your main OS 32 or 64bit? because apparently VMware or virtual machines can't run 64 bit? I'm not sure but that came to mind when I read your post

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Drakknar

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I'm glad I'm not the only one seeing this, the title bar widget placement in build 9926 is really annoying. You can just tell it's off by a pixel or two. Like you said, it's early and I expect this to be addressed. Maybe the next build.

 

My guess is that Windows is rendering the "Modern" title bars in a different way than the "Classic" ones. The Modern app wrapper could be using a different (and new) window frame where they could perfectly align the elements as they originally wanted. Win32 apps, on the other side, always had the controls top-aligned, and that's what I see in Windows 10, too. Hopefully they won't be lazy and they will fix it; for some reason this small difference is really getting on my nerves :D

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FunkyMike

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yes its a nvidia inside.

 

i wasnt able to fix that bug - can you help?

 

http://forums.mydigitallife.info/threads/59053-How-to-bring-back-the-old-resizable-Start-Menu

 

This will replace it with the older one.

 

Been looking for a fix to "fix" it but cannot find it anymore. : S 

 

I couldn't have imagined it. Finding something in 90 pages on MDL can be a bit tricky. ;)

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chrisj1968

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http://forums.mydigitallife.info/threads/59053-How-to-bring-back-the-old-resizable-Start-Menu

 

This will replace it with the older one.

 

Been looking for a fix to "fix" it but cannot find it anymore. : S 

 

I couldn't have imagined it. Finding something in 90 pages on MDL can be a bit tricky. ;)

 

you have eyes like a hawk to find it in the mass of 90 pages.. yikes!

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FunkyMike

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you have eyes like a hawk to find it in the mass of 90 pages.. yikes!

 

:D Hehe I meant that I didn't find it : )  .. only a "workaround". ... but thank you regardless! ; )

 

BTW: Seems like this is the only workaround. Maybe I imagined another workaround. :shiftyninja:

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chrisj1968

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:D Hehe I meant that I didn't find it : )  .. only a "workaround". ... but thank you regardless! ; )

 

BTW: Seems like this is the only workaround. Maybe I imagined another workaround. :shiftyninja:

 

Doh!  :laugh:

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PGHammer

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In what way is Microsoft Reader (the default PDF app) so bad?

 

If it's features, that is one thing, and you CAN still install Adobe Reader (or any other PDF reader/viewer) - so far, I have had exactly zero issues with PDF compatibility with Microsoft Reader.  The only issues I have had at all are with specific PDFs designed as fill-in forms (DSP-11/Application for a United States Passport is such a PDF) - other than such PDFs, I have no real use for Adobe Reader any more; if Microsoft Reader becomes able to handle PDF-based forms, Adobe Reader will follow Diskeeper out the EXIT door.

 

In fact, Microsoft Reader (in 9926) smashes Adobe Reader flat handling PDFs that have pictures embedded - the Quick Start Guide for the MSI Z97-G55 motherboard is such a PDF, and the first one I used in the "snapshot" evaluation of that capability faceoff.

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C:Amie

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I haven't had a lot of time at all to look into it, so this is just a quick summary

 

The current preview build of VirtualBox seems to have resolved the issues that I was having with VB and Windows 10; good work team VB. I'm running it on old Core 2 Quad core hardware and 10 doesn't seem too bad at all in terms of responsiveness. It took all of the technically 'vista' drivers for the PIC and management hardware and device manager is clean of missing hardware.

 

Boot times are good, app compatibility is good and I'm planning to jump from 7 -> 10 at home and have made the necessary warning noises at work that we will be doing 10 image deployment pilots at the end of the year (got to keep them on their toes, right?).

Issues

I cannot remote desktop to Windows 10 from a Surface Pro 3 using either RDP client with default settings. It just bottles straight out. It's fine from a SP1 or a S2. I think it has something to do with the resolution of the SP3. Lower the resolution on the desktop client and you can connect (but it is tiny!).

 

I keep encountering an issue where the Windows key will not launch the start menu when logged in as the root administrator account (not standard users). This was annoying as I had no mouse connected and wanted to quickly check for new preview builds and leave it going. Now that the Windows Update entry point has been removed from the control panel, could I get into Windows Update or Metro "Settings", no. Searching for 'settings' in windows explorer gave nothing, Windows Key + S to get search up helpfully informed me that "you cannot run this application as the built in administrator", so I guess I won't be doing WU today then?! There seems to be a disconnect between search interfaces which I think should be normalised.

 

Issuing command lines into the windows start menu search box e.g. shutdown -l no longer works, it just goes and searches Bing, finds shutdown.exe and then acts like a lemon. Yes you can run shutdown.exe from the results, but it doesn't seem to pass the command line arguments into it (the -l), so you just see shutdown.exe's help screen flash up.

 

On my desktop machine I don't care for live tiles or apps, I'm not interested in them (the surface is a different question) and once I've removed all the rubbish the start menu has gone back to being a Windows 8 type of worthless with an even less intuitive vertical scroll of doom to get down into non-pinned non-metro applications. All I want are jump/mru lists and the ability to have half height, wide tiles for folder shortcuts and I'll work the rest out, but Microsoft seem to be treading water here on their rolling back on the start menu plan.

 

Despite my dislike of metro/tiles on the desktop, I would very much like to see Media Centre re-spun as App modules. If you could have access to the Start Screen and the live tiles + TV/Extender and Guide services as apps (much like they are separate modules in Media Centre anyway) it could add a new dimension to the continuum idea for home cinema/TV!

 

Unless something has changed recently, the last time I looked when you spawn a new desktop, you can still see all the task bar entries for the content on the other desktops... that's not right.

 

Task Manager still won't remember what the last tab you had open is like it did before Windows 8. I never need to see the default running apps list, I usually want processes or performance and it's just adding unnecessary clicks.

 

I'd better go and do some work.

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JakeB

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I had an extra SSD so I formatted and installed on a 4 year old Acer AS 8950G.  It's a Sandy Bridge i7 with 16 ram 140 GB SSD with 1 TB HD data drive ATI 6850 2gb graphics. I did install in VMplayer VM but haven't touched that much since installed on Acer.

 

Firefox was crashing last night but IE and Chrome working good.  I installed the Word preview and it was working fine Monday. Last night it wouldn't run and came up with error and said to go to store. When going to store it just said i owned it. I also installed Excel and Powerpoint preview and they work fine. An AT&T app does the same thing as the Word preview. I haven't figured out how you uninstall Metro apps.

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chrisj1968

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Well , if I compare it with the Windows 8 [ or 8 . 1 ] Preview I can say that Windows 10 TP is full of bugs ...

Also , it doesn't provide the Microsoft answer that I was hoping for .

This is strange because you're literally the FIRST person I've heard have an issue with Windows 10TP. unless your test system is on legacy hardware and THAT might be the issue. seriously, I believe this is why MSFT is pushing for windows 10 to be free the first year. To get people on new non legacy systems.

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chrisj1968

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You're right , Chris ...

I'm for any free OS coming from they .

Who knows , maybe it will be way better than the other editions we had .

Let's hope for the best ?

 

I hope you didn't think I was being mean to you. I sometimes have to check myself to be sure I don't unintentionally offend anyone. But I see what MSFT is doing. for years, MSFT would build windows with backwards compatability. I see how we had such issues with crashes and buggy drivers, they'll be there if a company doesn't build decent drivers. But old software and new don't always work right.

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MikeM97

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I understood it .

Don't worry , if I won't count 2 - 3 boys that said my upside opinion is worthless [ without any sense ] , and even if I do , my experience here is great .

Sometimes it's hard to belive but anyone has right somehow . [ maybe even me , haha ] .

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Rickkins

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Mostly, after all is said and done, I mostly feel that they outright lied to everyone. Making this big fuss about doing the desktop right etc9i'm paraphrasing), when all they have really done is sneak all their metro nonsense in thru the back door. Sleight of hand basically, trying to make people think they've concentrated on the desktop, when in fact they have made metro even more intertwined.

 

At this point, "free" may be a tad high.

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richter2

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I really love this OS and would recommend anyone to get involved in the Insider Program if they have even  an inkling of interest in Windows 10. :)   Ten out of 10 for me!  Don't use the stars on the left as my rating, as for some reason, I can't get the stars to 10.

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Dot Matrix

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Mostly, after all is said and done, I mostly feel that they outright lied to everyone. Making this big fuss about doing the desktop right etc9i'm paraphrasing), when all they have really done is sneak all their metro nonsense in thru the back door. Sleight of hand basically, trying to make people think they've concentrated on the desktop, when in fact they have made metro even more intertwined.

 

At this point, "free" may be a tad high.

Metro wasn't going away. Did you think it would? There's more to computing than just the desktop. Desktop is only a (small) piece of the puzzle now.

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Rickkins

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I'll never accept metro, with its monetization of every click of cortana, bing and God knows what else. Not gonna happen.

 

And more and more, the same people who rejected 8/8.1 in the first place are realizing microsoft has done little more than some sleight of hand to sneak metro in thru the back door.

 

Perhaps, if the os they plan to give away for free flops at that price, they'll finally get the message.

 

But then again, free is hard to resist, so their plan will likely work, at least to some degree...

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Rickkins

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Oh yeah, that darned Cortana, always forcing me to use her. Such a shame I can't disable the search bar and button, or tell her to stop getting to know me. Oh wait.

Hehehe...

Well yea, so far it IS still possible to disable all, or at least most of the annoyances. My worry is that if, or when win10 sees mass adoption, bit by bit we'll see less and less possibilities to eliminate the annoyances. That's why I speak up now. Because if you wait until it's too late....

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