#Michael Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 So, BB has early access black friday deals starting today. They have a Panasonic 55" led tv on sale for $400 off. It normally sells for $999 but is available for $500. The model is tc-55as530u. I honestly have no idea if that is a good tv or not. Here is the advertisement for it: http://www.bestbuy.com/site/misc/my-best-buy-early-access/pcmcat287300050012.c?id=pcmcat287300050012& Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1237814-bb-early-access-black-friday-deals/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
sc302 Veteran Posted November 25, 2014 Veteran Share Posted November 25, 2014 It is ok at best. It is your typical low end big screen tv. low end = edge lit, 3 or less hdmi ports (this one has 2), 120Hz (basically is a 60 Hz lcd screen with 120Hz lighting to fool you into thinking it is 120), the lcds are low quality in these units producing high color saturation or bad color reproduction. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1237814-bb-early-access-black-friday-deals/#findComment-596663460 Share on other sites More sharing options...
#Michael Posted November 25, 2014 Author Share Posted November 25, 2014 It is ok at best. It is your typical low end big screen tv. low end = edge lit, 3 or less hdmi ports (this one has 2), 120Hz (basically is a 60 Hz lcd screen with 120Hz lighting to fool you into thinking it is 120), the lcds are low quality in these units producing high color saturation or bad color reproduction. So then what is a good tv? I don't even know where to start. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1237814-bb-early-access-black-friday-deals/#findComment-596663544 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sc302 Veteran Posted November 25, 2014 Veteran Share Posted November 25, 2014 Let's start with price. That will be the most determining factor if you are going to get a good tv or bad to ok tv. Good tvs will be capable of local or micro dimming and have good to great color reproduction.. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1237814-bb-early-access-black-friday-deals/#findComment-596663554 Share on other sites More sharing options...
spacer Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 It is ok at best. It is your typical low end big screen tv. low end = edge lit, 3 or less hdmi ports (this one has 2), 120Hz (basically is a 60 Hz lcd screen with 120Hz lighting to fool you into thinking it is 120), the lcds are low quality in these units producing high color saturation or bad color reproduction. Edge-lit does not equate to low-end. There are good edge-lit TVs, and there are bad back-lit ones. Especially because pretty much all back-lit TVs do not have local-dimming. There are almost no back-lit TVs with local dimming. (and the very few that exist are super expensive) A quality set tuned properly will give you a great picture, regardless of its type of lighting. I agree with everything else you said, though. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1237814-bb-early-access-black-friday-deals/#findComment-596663568 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sc302 Veteran Posted November 25, 2014 Veteran Share Posted November 25, 2014 I will agree with there are bad back lit ones, but you can't tell me with certainty that not a single edge lit doesn't have bleed out. Put a good lcd in front of a bad light source you have an ok tv. Anything under 1000 is going to be in that range...low quality to ok. All edge lits eventually light bleed, some do it within a month, some do it within a few months, some do it within a year. Edge lit aren't the greatest. Light bleed negates anything quality of the set. I would say it is time for the OP to learn about TV's 60 vs 120 vs 240Hz Motion interpolation back lit vs side lit vs micro dimming vs local dimming contrast ratio (the higher the number the better the contrast, the better it will be in a dark room) 4k vs 1080p smart tv 3d tv understand that lcd tv is a lcd screen with a flourescent back light, a led tv is a lcd screen with led back light. And go! Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1237814-bb-early-access-black-friday-deals/#findComment-596663584 Share on other sites More sharing options...
#Michael Posted November 25, 2014 Author Share Posted November 25, 2014 Let's start with price. That will be the most determining factor if you are going to get a good tv or bad to ok tv. Good tvs will be capable of local or micro dimming and have good to great color reproduction.. I'd like to keep it to about $1200. I last bought a tv back in 2008 and it was a panasonic plasma. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1237814-bb-early-access-black-friday-deals/#findComment-596663730 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sc302 Veteran Posted November 26, 2014 Veteran Share Posted November 26, 2014 You may find the plasma to have better picture quality than the tv you purchase in that price range. Plasma has better contrast ratio, color reproduction, and has better motion smoothness. I will see what I can find for you in the 600 to 1200 price range. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1237814-bb-early-access-black-friday-deals/#findComment-596664396 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Eternal Tempest MVC Posted November 26, 2014 MVC Share Posted November 26, 2014 You may find the plasma to have better picture quality than the tv you purchase in that price range. Plasma has better contrast ratio, color reproduction, and has better motion smoothness. I will see what I can find for you in the 600 to 1200 price range. Despite the advances of burn in (pixel shifting, auto brightness leveling light sensor), over the years if you want a prominent channel, you can still get burn in. I have the stupid Cartoon Network logo burned in, shows under certain colors, but Cartoon Network is what is on 80% of the tv is on. Burn is also not covered on Samsung Warranty. It did take years, that being said I do really like my plasma tv. It's a good time to buy plasma, it may not make the 4k/ultra HD tech jump. They produce great black color, do not produce the heat like the older one's, and have very fast refresh rate (great for sports and gaming). Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1237814-bb-early-access-black-friday-deals/#findComment-596664420 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sc302 Veteran Posted November 26, 2014 Veteran Share Posted November 26, 2014 http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00I94IPXS/ref=nosim/?t=slickdeals&ascsubtag=a138417bebc14062bd17da1ce8859afa&tag=slickdeals&linkCode=as1http://www.adorama.com/SSGUN50HU69.html?cj=true&utm_term=Other&utm_medium=Affiliate&utm_campaign=Other&utm_source=cj_3668349&cvosrc=affiliate.cj.3668349&cvosrc=affiliate.62905http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1068647-REG/samsung_un50hu6950fxza_hu6950_uhd_50_4k.html At the very least these are two model series to look out for. The first one has almost 800 customer reviews and has 4.5 out of 5 stars, not bad IMO. the second one is a bit newer with far less reviews and has 3.5 stars. To compare specs, here is a higher end model http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00ID2HICA/ref=twister_B00PR12ZSC?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1 I believe this is how samsungs models work this year UN50HU8550 UN - common prefix 50- Size in inches HU8550 Model Class Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1237814-bb-early-access-black-friday-deals/#findComment-596664430 Share on other sites More sharing options...
#Michael Posted November 26, 2014 Author Share Posted November 26, 2014 You may find the plasma to have better picture quality than the tv you purchase in that price range. Plasma has better contrast ratio, color reproduction, and has better motion smoothness. I will see what I can find for you in the 600 to 1200 price range. I thought you couldn't buy plasma tvs anymore? Didn't panasonic and the rest stop making them? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1237814-bb-early-access-black-friday-deals/#findComment-596664466 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sc302 Veteran Posted November 26, 2014 Veteran Share Posted November 26, 2014 I'd like to keep it to about $1200. I last bought a tv back in 2008 and it was a panasonic plasma. Then I said, assuming that you still have your plasma: You may find the plasma to have better picture quality than the tv you purchase in that price range. Plasma has better contrast ratio, color reproduction, and has better motion smoothness. I will see what I can find for you in the 600 to 1200 price range. I don't believe you can buy plasma anymore. If anything it is low stock and a year or more old. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1237814-bb-early-access-black-friday-deals/#findComment-596664468 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sc302 Veteran Posted December 2, 2014 Veteran Share Posted December 2, 2014 did you end up getting something? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1237814-bb-early-access-black-friday-deals/#findComment-596670234 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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