+Raphaël G. MVC Posted August 17, 2015 Author MVC Share Posted August 17, 2015 Is gap-less playback supposed to be working at this point? Also just noticed that selecting 16 files or more, does not give you the option to Open, in the right click menu. 15 or less is fine. Gapless playback is not possible. I noticed that 15 files limit too. It seems to be a Windows limit. Here is a KB from microsoft about: https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/2022295 I haven't checked if other players work around that. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1246136-dopamine/page/44/#findComment-596982780 Share on other sites More sharing options...
FiB3R Posted August 17, 2015 Share Posted August 17, 2015 Gapless is not possible? How come? That is a pretty big deal Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1246136-dopamine/page/44/#findComment-596982782 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Raphaël G. MVC Posted August 17, 2015 Author MVC Share Posted August 17, 2015 Gapless is not possible? How come? That is a pretty big deal It's not trivial to implement and I didn't have time for it yet. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1246136-dopamine/page/44/#findComment-596982792 Share on other sites More sharing options...
FiB3R Posted August 17, 2015 Share Posted August 17, 2015 OK, that is understandable. I don't want to come across as demanding, or anything like that, but I can't overstate how important this is to me in the long term. I genuinely would not use Dopamine, simply because it would ruin the flow of so many of my albums, especially for parties, it would be a total no no. That would make me a very sad panda Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1246136-dopamine/page/44/#findComment-596982828 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Zagadka Subscriber² Posted August 17, 2015 Subscriber² Share Posted August 17, 2015 I'm still having it fair to recognize the general keyboard commands for next/last etc while running DirectX applications. It works tabbing over to general apps. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1246136-dopamine/page/44/#findComment-596983522 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Raphaël G. MVC Posted August 17, 2015 Author MVC Share Posted August 17, 2015 I'm still having it fair to recognize the general keyboard commands for next/last etc while running DirectX applications. It works tabbing over to general apps. Can you give me more details on that? Are you playing a game (fullscreen or not?) and running dopamine in the background? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1246136-dopamine/page/44/#findComment-596983538 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Zagadka Subscriber² Posted August 17, 2015 Subscriber² Share Posted August 17, 2015 Mainly on games, fullscreen and windowed, running in the background. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1246136-dopamine/page/44/#findComment-596983544 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Raphaël G. MVC Posted August 17, 2015 Author MVC Share Posted August 17, 2015 Mainly on games, fullscreen and windowed, running in the background. Are other players able to catch media keys when running behind a directx application? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1246136-dopamine/page/44/#findComment-596983560 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Zagadka Subscriber² Posted August 17, 2015 Subscriber² Share Posted August 17, 2015 Yea, WMP and Groove both work Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1246136-dopamine/page/44/#findComment-596983566 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seabizkit Posted August 17, 2015 Share Posted August 17, 2015 agreed focus should now be on: gap-less playback Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1246136-dopamine/page/44/#findComment-596983638 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Zagadka Subscriber² Posted August 17, 2015 Subscriber² Share Posted August 17, 2015 It is hard to balance adding features and keeping the application small and simple. There are always things you would want to add, but can't. FiB3R, I wouldn't try to use Dopamine as a player at a gathering, there are more targeted programs with specific features for that. Dopamine is supposed to be simple and straight forward. Jackaluichi 1 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1246136-dopamine/page/44/#findComment-596983650 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Raphaël G. MVC Posted August 17, 2015 Author MVC Share Posted August 17, 2015 No no no, focus is now rating and tagging And bugfixing happens in-between builds(all I can reproduce here at least). Indeed I want to keep it simple and straight forward. What you should expect A simple, good looking player which provides just enough features you enjoy music What you shouldn't expect Another Foobar2000 or JRiver Media Center. Those players provide a lot of features and are great at what they do. But that is also the problem I have with them and the reason why I started musiX1.5 years ago and now Dopamine. However feature requests are welcome. And I'll do my best to keep a balance between features and simplicity. AS for gapless playback: I'd do it immediately if I knew a simple way. I logged it as a feature request, but this will require quite some research and time. So no promises yet. Jackaluichi, +Raze and trag3dy 3 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1246136-dopamine/page/44/#findComment-596983696 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZipZapRap Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 Putting it bluntly, I’d have your babies if you added gapless playback. A player as simple to use as Dopamine, that looks this good, and has gapless playback? That’s about near perfect. The only improvements for me would be ability to play under lockscreen (not sure if possible on Win32 programs), and generally, a universal app platform instead (I know, that’d be an entirely new Dopamine!) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1246136-dopamine/page/44/#findComment-596984066 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisj1968 Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 (edited) Hey Raph. been awhile. I've had some family emergencies lately but must say that your work is looking clean and tight. with my DTS digital audio, dopamine sounds like a champion. Jackaluichi 1 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1246136-dopamine/page/44/#findComment-596984408 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Raphaël G. MVC Posted August 18, 2015 Author MVC Share Posted August 18, 2015 Hey Raph. been awhile. I've had some family emergencies lately but must say that your work is looking clean and tight. with my DTS digital audio, dopamine sounds like a champion. Hi Chris! Good to hear from you. I'm glad you're still enjoying Dopamine. I'll have a new build ready soon. This is the current changelog: - Updated the file icons - Adapted the UI to fit Windows 10 - Fixed a bug where the volume button wasn't synced between the different player screens - Improved the albums search to also search for non-album artists - Improved stability I'm kind of happy with the improved stability. I've removed 2 nasty crashes. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1246136-dopamine/page/44/#findComment-596985422 Share on other sites More sharing options...
FiB3R Posted August 19, 2015 Share Posted August 19, 2015 Error opening .m3u 2015-08-19 13:25:28.0172|Info|Dopamine.Application.ProcessCommandLineArguments|Found commandline arguments.2015-08-19 13:25:28.0392|Info|Dopamine.Application.ProcessCommandLineArguments|Processing Non-JumpList commandline arguments.2015-08-19 13:25:28.0392|Info|Dopamine.Application.TrySendCommandlineArguments|Trying to send 2 commandline arguments to the running instance2015-08-19 13:25:28.1043|Info|Dopamine.Services.File.FileService+_Closure$__5._Lambda$__12|Found commandline arguments.2015-08-19 13:25:28.1043|Info|Dopamine.Services.File.FileService+_Closure$__5._Lambda$__12|Added file '\\TITAN\My Music\Various Artists - Hed Kandi Tropical House (2015) 2CD\00.Hed_Kandi_Tropical_House.m3u'2015-08-19 13:25:28.1053|Info|Dopamine.Application.TrySendCommandlineArguments|Sent 2 commandline arguments to the running instance2015-08-19 13:25:28.1053|Warn|Dopamine.Application.OnStartup|Dopamine is already running. Shutting down.2015-08-19 13:25:28.3575|Info|Dopamine.Services.File.FileService+VB$StateMachine_14_AddFilesTimerElapsedHandler.MoveNext|Finished adding files. Number of files added = 12015-08-19 13:25:28.3575|Error|Dopamine.Core.Metadata.Tagger.Path2TrackInfo|Error while creating TrackInfo from file '\\TITAN\My Music\Various Artists - Hed Kandi Tropical House (2015) 2CD\00.Hed_Kandi_Tropical_House.m3u'. Exception: \\TITAN\My Music\Various Artists - Hed Kandi Tropical House (2015) 2CD\00.Hed_Kandi_Tropical_House.m3u (taglib/m3u)2015-08-19 13:25:28.3575|Info|Dopamine.Services.File.FileService+VB$StateMachine_15_ImportFiles.MoveNext|Number of tracks to play = 12015-08-19 13:25:28.3575|Info|Dopamine.Services.File.FileService+VB$StateMachine_15_ImportFiles.MoveNext|Enqueuing 1 tracks.2015-08-19 13:25:28.3966|Error|Dopamine.Services.Playback.PlaybackService.TryPlay|Could not play the file \\TITAN\My Music\Various Artists - Hed Kandi Tropical House (2015) 2CD\00.Hed_Kandi_Tropical_House.m3u. Loop=False, Shuffle=False. Exception: Interops::MFCreateSourceReaderFromURL caused an error: 0xc00d36c4, "The byte stream type of the given URL is unsupported.".. StackTrace: at CSCore.MediaFoundation.MediaFoundationCore.CreateSourceReaderFromUrl(String url) at CSCore.MediaFoundation.MediaFoundationDecoder..ctor(String uri) at CSCore.Codecs.CodecFactory.GetCodec(String filename) at Dopamine.Core.Audio.CSCorePlayer.GetSoundSource() at Dopamine.Core.Audio.CSCorePlayer.PlayASound() at Dopamine.Core.Audio.CSCorePlayer.Play(String iUri) at Dopamine.Services.Playback.PlaybackService.TryPlay(TrackInfo iTrack) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1246136-dopamine/page/44/#findComment-596987170 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Raphaël G. MVC Posted August 19, 2015 Author MVC Share Posted August 19, 2015 (edited) Error opening .m3u 2015-08-19 13:25:28.0172|Info|Dopamine.Application.ProcessCommandLineArguments|Found commandline arguments.2015-08-19 13:25:28.0392|Info|Dopamine.Application.ProcessCommandLineArguments|Processing Non-JumpList commandline arguments.2015-08-19 13:25:28.0392|Info|Dopamine.Application.TrySendCommandlineArguments|Trying to send 2 commandline arguments to the running instance2015-08-19 13:25:28.1043|Info|Dopamine.Services.File.FileService+_Closure$__5._Lambda$__12|Found commandline arguments.2015-08-19 13:25:28.1043|Info|Dopamine.Services.File.FileService+_Closure$__5._Lambda$__12|Added file '\\TITAN\My Music\Various Artists - Hed Kandi Tropical House (2015) 2CD\00.Hed_Kandi_Tropical_House.m3u'2015-08-19 13:25:28.1053|Info|Dopamine.Application.TrySendCommandlineArguments|Sent 2 commandline arguments to the running instance2015-08-19 13:25:28.1053|Warn|Dopamine.Application.OnStartup|Dopamine is already running. Shutting down.2015-08-19 13:25:28.3575|Info|Dopamine.Services.File.FileService+VB$StateMachine_14_AddFilesTimerElapsedHandler.MoveNext|Finished adding files. Number of files added = 12015-08-19 13:25:28.3575|Error|Dopamine.Core.Metadata.Tagger.Path2TrackInfo|Error while creating TrackInfo from file '\\TITAN\My Music\Various Artists - Hed Kandi Tropical House (2015) 2CD\00.Hed_Kandi_Tropical_House.m3u'. Exception: \\TITAN\My Music\Various Artists - Hed Kandi Tropical House (2015) 2CD\00.Hed_Kandi_Tropical_House.m3u (taglib/m3u)2015-08-19 13:25:28.3575|Info|Dopamine.Services.File.FileService+VB$StateMachine_15_ImportFiles.MoveNext|Number of tracks to play = 12015-08-19 13:25:28.3575|Info|Dopamine.Services.File.FileService+VB$StateMachine_15_ImportFiles.MoveNext|Enqueuing 1 tracks.2015-08-19 13:25:28.3966|Error|Dopamine.Services.Playback.PlaybackService.TryPlay|Could not play the file \\TITAN\My Music\Various Artists - Hed Kandi Tropical House (2015) 2CD\00.Hed_Kandi_Tropical_House.m3u. Loop=False, Shuffle=False. Exception: Interops::MFCreateSourceReaderFromURL caused an error: 0xc00d36c4, "The byte stream type of the given URL is unsupported.".. StackTrace: at CSCore.MediaFoundation.MediaFoundationCore.CreateSourceReaderFromUrl(String url) at CSCore.MediaFoundation.MediaFoundationDecoder..ctor(String uri) at CSCore.Codecs.CodecFactory.GetCodec(String filename) at Dopamine.Core.Audio.CSCorePlayer.GetSoundSource() at Dopamine.Core.Audio.CSCorePlayer.PlayASound() at Dopamine.Core.Audio.CSCorePlayer.Play(String iUri) at Dopamine.Services.Playback.PlaybackService.TryPlay(TrackInfo iTrack) Opening playlists is not supported yet (but planned). Edit: it didn't crash right? (otherwise that would be a bug) From what I see it didn't crash and showed you a popup that it couldn't play the file. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1246136-dopamine/page/44/#findComment-596987282 Share on other sites More sharing options...
FiB3R Posted August 19, 2015 Share Posted August 19, 2015 Ah!, OK. Is there a public feature/bug list we can look at, so that we don't keep reporting, requesting the same things over and over? It didn't crash, just an error dialogue. The ability to open the log file from the error dialogue is a great idea Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1246136-dopamine/page/44/#findComment-596987972 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Zagadka Subscriber² Posted August 19, 2015 Subscriber² Share Posted August 19, 2015 Dunno what the status turned out to be, but Dopamine still doesn't recognize keyboard commands when a game has focus Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1246136-dopamine/page/44/#findComment-596987982 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Raphaël G. MVC Posted August 19, 2015 Author MVC Share Posted August 19, 2015 Dunno what the status turned out to be, but Dopamine still doesn't recognize keyboard commands when a game has focus It's logged as a bug. But I can't reproduce it yet. As soon as I can, I'll be able to try fixing it. What kind of keyboard do you have? Is it coming with a custom driver or software? Does it have app-specific configuration? We've seen logitech keyboards breaking media key support here in the past due to their driver and app specific configurations. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1246136-dopamine/page/44/#findComment-596988050 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Raphaël G. MVC Posted August 19, 2015 Author MVC Share Posted August 19, 2015 (edited) Ah!, OK. Is there a public feature/bug list we can look at, so that we don't keep reporting, requesting the same things over and over? It didn't crash, just an error dialogue. The ability to open the log file from the error dialogue is a great idea There is a short list on my blog here, however it needs some updating. Edit: it is now up to date for the bigger features. Edited August 19, 2015 by Raphaël G. Jackaluichi and FiB3R 2 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1246136-dopamine/page/44/#findComment-596988062 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Zagadka Subscriber² Posted August 19, 2015 Subscriber² Share Posted August 19, 2015 I'm using an older Microsoft Digital Media Pro keyboard with native drivers. I didn't actually have any problems with games on Dopamine until earlier in the week. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1246136-dopamine/page/44/#findComment-596988068 Share on other sites More sharing options...
briangw Posted August 19, 2015 Share Posted August 19, 2015 I really, really, really, really wish this would work for downloaded DRM files like for Groove Subscription or Apple Music. This program looks soooooo much better. One question, when I remove the source folder of the music, why does the music still stay in the library? Anyway to purge it out? I can't find out how to do that. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1246136-dopamine/page/44/#findComment-596988126 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Raphaël G. MVC Posted August 19, 2015 Author MVC Share Posted August 19, 2015 (edited) I really, really, really, really wish this would work for downloaded DRM files like for Groove Subscription or Apple Music. This program looks soooooo much better. One question, when I remove the source folder of the music, why does the music still stay in the library? Anyway to purge it out? I can't find out how to do that. Select the songs you want to remove in the UI, right click and choose "Remove". They're not being removed when removing folders for several reasons: - Songs which are added by means of a playlist are not necessarily (some can be, others not) in one of the folders, and we don't want to also delete too much. So I've gone the way of other players and don't delete. Having the folders tells dopmaine to keep an eye on the contents and update the collection if files are added or removed. - metadata info (like rating) saved in the database. If you chose to remvoe a folder but then decide you want the files back, the metadata info should not be lost Although, I admit that I need to think about it more. Folder management will probably improve sometime later. I thought about adding a reset button to clear the collection completely if someone wants to start fresh. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1246136-dopamine/page/44/#findComment-596988150 Share on other sites More sharing options...
briangw Posted August 19, 2015 Share Posted August 19, 2015 Thanks for the quick reply! Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1246136-dopamine/page/44/#findComment-596988154 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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