+Warwagon MVC Posted February 26, 2015 MVC Share Posted February 26, 2015 This is a thread for those who are doing a clean install of Windows using the Windows 7 Sp1 iso posted on the front page or Just a Windows 7 Sp1 iso in general that has not had any updates past Sp1 slipstreamed. This also works for a Vista sp2 iso. After Windows 7 (with SP1) is installed and before you check for updates, install the following updates Download and install the offline installers of Dot Net Frame Work 4.5.2. and Internet Explorer 11. Install 4.5.2 before IE 11. Other wise 4.5.2 will refuse to install until you restart to finish the IE11 install. For Vista Sp2 Install Dot Net Framework 4.5.2 and Internet Explorer 9. Once those 2 updates are done now check for updates with Windows update. What would happen if you didn't install those 2 updates first is after the first 200 updates you would reboot and then it would have to install all the updates for IE11. After all the other updates are done it would give you Dot Net Frame work 4.5.2. Then the next time you check for updates it would give you all the updates for that. Then when you reboot it would give you a few more updates. If you Install IE11 and Dotnet Framework 4.5.2 before your first check for updates, it installs all the updates for IE11 and Dotnet Framework 4.5.2 on the 1st batch of updates. On the 2nd batch / check there are only a few updates left and you are done Jose_49, technord, goretsky and 2 others 5 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1248172-quicker-way-to-install-windows-updates-from-windows-7-sp1-iso/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
technord Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 Microsoft should use it's own technology, and provide current isos. It's really not hard to do at all! liamgreen 1 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1248172-quicker-way-to-install-windows-updates-from-windows-7-sp1-iso/#findComment-596764758 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Warwagon MVC Posted February 26, 2015 Author MVC Share Posted February 26, 2015 Because I do computer repair and i'm always reinstalling Windows I have 2 SSD Drives, That I keep current and update monthly for both Vista and Windows 7. Then when I have to do a customer reinstall, I clone the one I need it to spare SSD then put the SSD back in my spare computer and sysprep that. Then I put that in the customers computer and update all the drivers and stuff and any other software they need. Then I clone the SSD back to their HDD. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1248172-quicker-way-to-install-windows-updates-from-windows-7-sp1-iso/#findComment-596764768 Share on other sites More sharing options...
manroweb Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 I use wsus offline. Keep it updated monthly. Run it from a USB drive. Installs all updates without having to download them. The auto recall options mean I can leave it to install updates, reboot and install next batch Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1248172-quicker-way-to-install-windows-updates-from-windows-7-sp1-iso/#findComment-596764784 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinOutreach2 Posted February 27, 2015 Share Posted February 27, 2015 Because I do computer repair and i'm always reinstalling Windows I have 2 SSD Drives, That I keep current and update monthly for both Vista and Windows 7. Then when I have to do a customer reinstall, I clone the one I need it to spare SSD then put the SSD back in my spare computer and sysprep that. Then I put that in the customers computer and update all the drivers and stuff and any other software they need. Then I clone the SSD back to their HDD. Have you ever considered using the Microsoft Deployment Toolkit (MDT) to manage reimaging? I keep a deployment share up and running and I can deploy an up-to-date environment for any of the operating systems I use in a few minutes to an hour. That includes a variety of standard applications that I can select between during deployment including Office, Flash, Java, Acrobat, etc. For most computers all I have to do is verify that I have the latest drivers in the deployment share, enable PXE on the target computer, select the operating system I want, select the applications I want, and 30 min later I Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1248172-quicker-way-to-install-windows-updates-from-windows-7-sp1-iso/#findComment-596766412 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Warwagon MVC Posted February 27, 2015 Author MVC Share Posted February 27, 2015 Thanks for the recommendation, but each of the computers i'm working on are on their own separate Vlan so they can't communicate with each other incase of infections and such. Plus the way I do it i'm up and going in about 10 mins. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1248172-quicker-way-to-install-windows-updates-from-windows-7-sp1-iso/#findComment-596766420 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose_49 Posted February 27, 2015 Share Posted February 27, 2015 This is a thread for those who are doing a clean install of Windows using the Windows 7 Sp1 iso posted on the front page or Just a Windows 7 Sp1 iso in general that has not had any updates past Sp1 slipstreamed. This also works for a Vista sp2 iso. After Windows 7 (with SP1) is installed and before you check for updates, install the following updates Download and install the offline installers of Dot Net Frame Work 4.5.2. and Internet Explorer 11. Install 4.5.2 before IE 11. Other wise 4.5.2 will refuse to install until you restart to finish the IE11 install. For Vista Sp2 Install Dot Net Framework 4.5.2 and Internet Explorer 9. Once those 2 updates are done now check for updates with Windows update. What would happen if you didn't install those 2 updates first is after the first 200 updates you would reboot and then it would have to install all the updates for IE11. After all the other updates are done it would give you Dot Net Frame work 4.5.2. Then the next time you check for updates it would give you all the updates for that. Then when you reboot it would give you a few more updates. If you Install IE11 and Dotnet Framework 4.5.2 before your first check for updates, it installs all the updates for IE11 and Dotnet Framework 4.5.2 on the 1st batch of updates. On the 2nd batch / check there are only a few updates left and you are done Seeet lord. this is some golden info! I've spent countless hours trying to update the OS several weeks before. I'm very glad to know that we do not need all that crap! Thanks warwagon!!! May I ask you why do you have a Vista SSD? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1248172-quicker-way-to-install-windows-updates-from-windows-7-sp1-iso/#findComment-596766422 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Warwagon MVC Posted February 27, 2015 Author MVC Share Posted February 27, 2015 Seeet lord. this is some golden info! I've spent countless hours trying to update the OS several weeks before. I'm very glad to know that we do not need all that crap! Thanks warwagon!!! May I ask you why do you have a Vista SSD? It's a syspreped image I keep up to date. For Vista reintsalls. Clone it to a spare SSD and sysprep it, then put it in their machine. Then once the first boot is done, vista is all up to date.What use to take me 3 hours of updating now takes me about 10 mins. Once I get all the drivers and maybe some other software which isn't on the image intsalled, I clone it back to their origonal drive. Boom done! I know vista doesn't support Trim, but it's on a cheap 60GB SSD. I use it to cut down on the install times. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1248172-quicker-way-to-install-windows-updates-from-windows-7-sp1-iso/#findComment-596766424 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose_49 Posted February 27, 2015 Share Posted February 27, 2015 It's a syspreped image I keep up to date. For Vista reintsalls. Clone it to a spare SSD and sysprep it, then put it in their machine. Then once the first boot is done, vista is all up to date.What use to take me 3 hours of updating now takes me about 10 mins. Once I get all the drivers and maybe some other software which isn't on the image intsalled, I clone it back to their origonal drive. Boom done! I know vista doesn't support Trim, but it's on a cheap 60GB SSD. I use it to cut down on the install times. Clever Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1248172-quicker-way-to-install-windows-updates-from-windows-7-sp1-iso/#findComment-596766428 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Warwagon MVC Posted February 27, 2015 Author MVC Share Posted February 27, 2015 Clever I do the same for Windows 7. I was talking to my local competitor down town about Windows 7 installs, he says if he starts a reinstall at 8am he says he's done by days end Even when I use to reinstall windows from scratch without using sysprep, because I use the method mentioned above, a reinstall only took me about 2 / 2 1/2 hours, most of that is just watching updates install. Now it takes me 10 mins Jose_49 and seeprime 2 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1248172-quicker-way-to-install-windows-updates-from-windows-7-sp1-iso/#findComment-596766430 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rippleman Posted February 27, 2015 Share Posted February 27, 2015 I tried what you suggested today and it does say A LOT of time. The update phase was shockingly faster. Thank you very much. +Warwagon 1 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1248172-quicker-way-to-install-windows-updates-from-windows-7-sp1-iso/#findComment-596766436 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Warwagon MVC Posted May 25, 2015 Author MVC Share Posted May 25, 2015 I tried what you suggested today and it does say A LOT of time. The update phase was shockingly faster. Thank you very much. You're welcome. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1248172-quicker-way-to-install-windows-updates-from-windows-7-sp1-iso/#findComment-596862254 Share on other sites More sharing options...
H3xCmd Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 Because I do computer repair and i'm always reinstalling Windows I have 2 SSD Drives, That I keep current and update monthly for both Vista and Windows 7. Then when I have to do a customer reinstall, I clone the one I need it to spare SSD then put the SSD back in my spare computer and sysprep that. Then I put that in the customers computer and update all the drivers and stuff and any other software they need. Then I clone the SSD back to their HDD. Hello WarWagon, or anyone with more knowledge on this than I. Would this be safe to say that these are Legacy clones of the install, and not UEFI... I have some questions as we shift to the new age of computing with UEFI installs. Is your method UEFI compatible? also on another forum users had great difficulty cloning UEFI and found 1 paid for software Paragon that really worked http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/id-1670056/successful-clone-windows-hard-drive-ssd-gpt-uefi.html . however I think they are using the same computer original HDD. And finally If you create a UEFI install of; for example Windows 7 on a dell laptop, and using your method of cloning and connecting the drive to the one being repaired for example a Lenovo desktop. Would the Lenovo Desktop See the UEFI cloned drive and work? if you have a different answer than a No can you please share? I cant get the drive to work with UEFI. if i connect the UEFI Source drive to a Hp Laptop,with the BIOS settings is configured to UEFI boot with secure boot off. the boot device is not readable. getting error no boot device available . however it does work from its original creation source the Dell laptop........ Is UEFI only computer specific? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1248172-quicker-way-to-install-windows-updates-from-windows-7-sp1-iso/#findComment-597092464 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Warwagon MVC Posted October 17, 2015 Author MVC Share Posted October 17, 2015 (edited) Hello WarWagon, or anyone with more knowledge on this than I. Would this be safe to say that these are Legacy clones of the install, and not UEFI... I have some questions as we shift to the new age of computing with UEFI installs. Is your method UEFI compatible? also on another forum users had great difficulty cloning UEFI and found 1 paid for software Paragon that really worked http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/id-1670056/successful-clone-windows-hard-drive-ssd-gpt-uefi.html . however I think they are using the same computer original HDD. And finally If you create a UEFI install of; for example Windows 7 on a dell laptop, and using your method of cloning and connecting the drive to the one being repaired for example a Lenovo desktop. Would the Lenovo Desktop See the UEFI cloned drive and work? if you have a different answer than a No can you please share? I cant get the drive to work with UEFI. if i connect the UEFI Source drive to a Hp Laptop,with the BIOS settings is configured to UEFI boot with secure boot off. the boot device is not readable. getting error no boot device available . however it does work from its original creation source the Dell laptop........ Is UEFI only computer specific? Those are legacy Not UEFI, that being said I have successfully cloned UEFI Windows 8 SSDs and they booted just fine. Using True image 2013 - 2015 Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1248172-quicker-way-to-install-windows-updates-from-windows-7-sp1-iso/#findComment-597092954 Share on other sites More sharing options...
H3xCmd Posted October 19, 2015 Share Posted October 19, 2015 Those are legacy Not UEFI, that being said I have successfully cloned UEFI Windows 8 SSDs and they booted just fine. Using True image 2013 - 2015 Thanks, I also do confirm that cloning works with UEFI installs with true image. Your idea, was my weekend project for a client of that needs a downgrade from 8 to 7 for a specific software need that will not run in 8 and keeping his system UEFI based on a SSD instead of converting back to legacy. When I first tested the Windows 7 UEFI install, as this was my error, where the MBR was missing from the source drive and was attached/piggy backing to my main OS drive and this is why I had errors when testing the Source drive on different machines with UEFI enabled because it was missing the MBR partition. Since this client is a bit farther away than my normal servicing area, I don't want to spend all day or make repeat visits. I do like the fact that cloning can take anywhere from 10-15min, and the system will be up to date with necessary tweeks to not upgrade to 10. Having everything pre-configured and tested, makes it almost too simple and smart. This is very helpful and just wanted to say thank you for sharing your expertise. Thanks again WarWagon. =) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1248172-quicker-way-to-install-windows-updates-from-windows-7-sp1-iso/#findComment-597094180 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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