DocM Posted June 24, 2018 Author Share Posted June 24, 2018 http://spacenews.com/blue-origin-plans-to-start-selling-suborbital-spaceflight-tickets-next-year/ Blue Origin expects to start flying people on its New Shepard suborbital vehicle soon and start selling tickets for commercial flights next year, a company executive said June 19. Speaking at the Amazon Web Services Public Sector Summit here, as the keynote of a half-day track on earth and space applications, Blue Origin Senior Vice President Rob Meyerson offered a few updates on the development of the companys suborbital vehicle. "We plan to start flying our first test passengers soon," he said after showing a video of a previous New Shepard flight at the companys West Texas test site. All of the New Shepard flights to date have been without people on board, but the company has said in the past it would fly its personnel on the vehicle in later tests. BetaguyGZT 1 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1253014-blue-origin-aerospace-updates/page/10/#findComment-598293746 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocM Posted June 30, 2018 Author Share Posted June 30, 2018 Oops...this may move both New Glenn and Vulcan to the right. http://spacenews.com/rl10-engine-added-to-air-force-agreement-with-aerojet-rocketdyne/ > ...Blue Origin’s BE-4, started hotfire tests last October. In a June 19 speech at the Amazon Web Services Public Sector Summit in Washington, Rob Meyerson, senior vice president of Blue Origin, said testing of the BE-4 was continuing with "full qualification" of the engine expected in 2019. ULA executives have said for months that a decision on the engine it will use for Vulcan will come “soon,” but have not offered more specific timelines or other updates on the engine selection process. > Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1253014-blue-origin-aerospace-updates/page/10/#findComment-598298128 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BetaguyGZT Posted June 30, 2018 Share Posted June 30, 2018 Oooohhh ... something's gotten snagged somewhere if it's that far out still. I bet it's got to do with them not being able/willing to hit their thrust targets thus far. Using the AR-1 might be a thing after all. Blue should already be hitting the full monty in testing by now. Fact of business they should have pushed it to failure already just to get an idea of how hard they can push the platform. If they aren't past that 63% marker that they've been stuck at by 1Q 2019, this one's as good as dead and they'll have to go with the AR-1. ULA can't wait forever. DocM 1 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1253014-blue-origin-aerospace-updates/page/10/#findComment-598298164 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocM Posted June 30, 2018 Author Share Posted June 30, 2018 (edited) Remember they had that BE-4 come unglued, so (heaven forbid!) it could be a design issue and they had to backtrack. BetaguyGZT 1 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1253014-blue-origin-aerospace-updates/page/10/#findComment-598298176 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BetaguyGZT Posted June 30, 2018 Share Posted June 30, 2018 Agreed. That's the only thing, at this point, that it could be. Major design flaw(s) that needed to be addressed. DocM 1 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1253014-blue-origin-aerospace-updates/page/10/#findComment-598298192 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocM Posted July 17, 2018 Author Share Posted July 17, 2018 Higher altitude in-flight abort test BetaguyGZT 1 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1253014-blue-origin-aerospace-updates/page/10/#findComment-598308706 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocM Posted July 17, 2018 Author Share Posted July 17, 2018 BetaguyGZT 1 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1253014-blue-origin-aerospace-updates/page/10/#findComment-598308986 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beittil Posted July 18, 2018 Share Posted July 18, 2018 Launch postponed an hour to 15:00 UTC. DocM and BetaguyGZT 2 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1253014-blue-origin-aerospace-updates/page/10/#findComment-598309444 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocM Posted July 18, 2018 Author Share Posted July 18, 2018 Perfect! Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1253014-blue-origin-aerospace-updates/page/10/#findComment-598309620 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BetaguyGZT Posted July 18, 2018 Share Posted July 18, 2018 Okee dokey! Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1253014-blue-origin-aerospace-updates/page/10/#findComment-598309622 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beittil Posted July 18, 2018 Share Posted July 18, 2018 Nice show. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1253014-blue-origin-aerospace-updates/page/10/#findComment-598309626 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocM Posted August 10, 2018 Author Share Posted August 10, 2018 (edited) BE-3U (U = upper stage) will be the upper stage engine for New Glenn, and it'll be available on the open market. Propellants are liquid hydrogen (LH2) and liquid oxygen (LOX.) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1253014-blue-origin-aerospace-updates/page/10/#findComment-598326212 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beittil Posted September 25, 2018 Share Posted September 25, 2018 Hello! Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1253014-blue-origin-aerospace-updates/page/10/#findComment-598357910 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocM Posted September 26, 2018 Author Share Posted September 26, 2018 Theyre planning on landing the booster while the ship is moving. It'd better not overshoot the deck. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1253014-blue-origin-aerospace-updates/page/10/#findComment-598358106 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BetaguyGZT Posted September 26, 2018 Share Posted September 26, 2018 Well ... it's not impossible ... hope the technology has come far enough to cope. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1253014-blue-origin-aerospace-updates/page/10/#findComment-598358142 Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingskippy Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 I hope they take everyone off before the first attempt..... BetaguyGZT, bguy_1986 and DocM 3 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1253014-blue-origin-aerospace-updates/page/10/#findComment-598359114 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocM Posted October 10, 2018 Author Share Posted October 10, 2018 New Glenn slips a year. Likely a reflection of the BE-4 engine development hell - stuck at 70%-ish thrust levels for months. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1253014-blue-origin-aerospace-updates/page/10/#findComment-598371600 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BetaguyGZT Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 Ouch. Maybe ULA choosing the BE-4 over the AR-1 wasn't the best idea in the world right now ... might be appropriate for Vulcan +1, but not currently. They needed Vulcan flying this year. DocM 1 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1253014-blue-origin-aerospace-updates/page/10/#findComment-598371642 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beittil Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 (edited) Vulcan could still fly in 2020 I guess if Blue qualifies the engine in time. It's just that Blue needs more time for their own rocket as a whole. Ow well, at least they now have $500M Air Force monies coming their way. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1253014-blue-origin-aerospace-updates/page/10/#findComment-598371908 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BetaguyGZT Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 More money isn't going to solve an Engineering problem. DocM and bguy_1986 2 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1253014-blue-origin-aerospace-updates/page/10/#findComment-598371982 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draggendrop Veteran Posted October 11, 2018 Veteran Share Posted October 11, 2018 Blue Origin takes their time with everything. There is no problem with the BE-4 that I have seen from an "official" source. The AR1 is way behind and was used for funding procurement only. One can't mix ULA and Blue timelines.....and until I see a "Blue source", the BE-4 is in it's own progression and doing fine....rumours don't cut it here. We need to stop spreading the FUD......reality may not be that exciting, but it is what it is. bguy_1986 1 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1253014-blue-origin-aerospace-updates/page/10/#findComment-598372016 Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsItPluggedIn Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 Hey DD, the problem is that Blue is very quiet on what they are doing and how things are progressing. Also when they do release information it all looks very polished. This is fairly standard in the Space Industry as these businesses are not usually large on public PR. With SpaceX being such a large PR machine we have been spoilt with information. Thus it is hard to stay away from rumors and "unnamed sources" with such little information. But.... we should alway preface our conjecture with the detail/facts. I am excited for BO and wish they would be more open about their development, but we cant have everything. bguy_1986 and Draggendrop 2 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1253014-blue-origin-aerospace-updates/page/10/#findComment-598372100 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beittil Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 DocM 1 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1253014-blue-origin-aerospace-updates/page/10/#findComment-598372616 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draggendrop Veteran Posted October 12, 2018 Veteran Share Posted October 12, 2018 21 hours ago, IsItPluggedIn said: Hey DD, the problem is that Blue is very quiet on what they are doing and how things are progressing. Also when they do release information it all looks very polished. This is fairly standard in the Space Industry as these businesses are not usually large on public PR. With SpaceX being such a large PR machine we have been spoilt with information. Thus it is hard to stay away from rumors and "unnamed sources" with such little information. But.... we should alway preface our conjecture with the detail/facts. I am excited for BO and wish they would be more open about their development, but we cant have everything. Quite true but one can infer with activities.... Jeff got rich by being "money smart". As of 2016, he had invested 500 million, and put 1 billion in at the end of 2017 with another 1 billion on the way. He would not throw cash at a "problem engine". A Vandy site is also in the works now. ULA made the selection a ways before the "official" release. NG slipped by releasing the GEM test data with "mounts that were not RP1. ULA is quite aware of BE-4 development as well as the Air Force. The new development awards also speak volumes...The BE-4 is fine...if anything, just the usual Blue Origin caution. Even when Blue is tight lipped...others around them display info by their actions. You are right...SpaceX is a "treat" for the info given, but even over the last year, the amount of data has been screened and comes with less frequency. They are a private company with no requirements to inform the general public. Still fun times though.... bguy_1986 and BetaguyGZT 2 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1253014-blue-origin-aerospace-updates/page/10/#findComment-598373026 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draggendrop Veteran Posted October 21, 2018 Veteran Share Posted October 21, 2018 Quote The Stena Freighter, Blue Origin’s new vessel docked at the Port of Pensacola. A little over 600ft long, she was quite an imposing presence up close. She is scheduled for dry dock upgrades before being delivered to Blue Origin. Photos taken for @NASASpaceflight. Will need a wider platform on top... They have a bit of work to do, but she'll look great when done. BetaguyGZT 1 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1253014-blue-origin-aerospace-updates/page/10/#findComment-598377599 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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