[OFFICIAL] Windows 10 Insider Program

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  1. 1. On a scale of 1-5, 1 being worst, 5 being best. What do you think of Windows 10 from the leaks so far?

    • 5.Great, best OS ever
      156
    • 4. Pretty Good, needs a lot of minor tweaks
      409
    • 3. OK, Needs a few major improvements, some minor ones
      168
    • 2. Fine, Needs a lot of major improvements
      79
    • 1.Poor, Needs too many improvements, all hope is lost, never going to use it
      41

  2. 2. Based on the recent leaks by Neowin and Winfuture.de, my next OS upgrade will be?

    • Windows 10
      720
    • Windows 8
      20
    • Windows 7
      48
    • Sticking with XP
      3
    • OSX Yosemite
      35
    • Linux
      24
    • Sticking with OSX Mavericks
      3

  3. 3. Should Microsoft give away Windows 10 for free?

    • Yes for Windows 8.1 Users
      305
    • Yes for Windows 7 and above users
      227
    • Yes for Vista and above users
      31
    • Yes for XP and above users
      27
    • Yes for all Windows users
      192
    • No
      71

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OK, apart from some dodgy WindowsFX borrows, ad the beginnings of the "Activity Center", what's new?

What are you referring to - the new animations (mentioned earlier) or other things?  The animations were present elsewhere before WindowFX had them - I had seen them outside of Windows (specifically Compiz) before - as long as something isn't trademarked or otherwise *protected* (and compiz is not, due to the GPL license), copying would be permissible.  I saw my first of the new animations upon starting IE - and it's one of those most wished for since Vista (if not XP) - Vanishing Point.

One other thing I've noticed in this new build, which they talked about on the front page news, if you click on the eithernet icon in the systrey you're taken to the PC settings networking section, no flyout side window like before.  Though after you click on your Ethernet connection in PC settings you're taken to a blank page, guess they haven't added in the options to that yet that you find if you go through control panel etc.

You can open the flyout from there and change settings from the flyout, as you could in 8+.

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Dot Matrix

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Nice to see the Wireless connections open in the PC Settings app. I know this will change, but glad to see Microsoft work their way over to this instead of the Control Panel.

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adrynalyne

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Nice to see the Wireless connections open in the PC Settings app. I know this will change, but glad to see Microsoft work their way over to this instead of the Control Panel.

Because we need two control panels.

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Has anyone noticed the zPC Settings in the Start Menu, looks like Microsoft are finally depreciating the old Control Panel in favour of PC Settings. It seems to contain most of the items from the Control Panel.

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Has anyone noticed the zPC Settings in the Start Menu, looks like Microsoft are finally depreciating the old Control Panel in favour of PC Settings. It seems to contain most of the items from the Control Panel.

All I can say is, I hope the door doesn't smack the Control Panel on the way out.

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Because we need two control panels.

Why?  (Yes - I'm "heart-attack" serious.)

 

Is it because we're USED to looking for things there (tradition)?

 

Being as both now display windowed, it certainly isn't about navigation, or even mousability - I have zero issues navigating PC settings with a mouse, and even fewer issues with a trackpad.  (That is, in fact, entirely due to both better support for trackpads in general in the Technical Preview, and ModernUI's larger landing zones for pointers - which both trackpads AND mice benefit from.)

 

What I'm actively hoping is that PC Settings takes some cues from Server Manager (Windows Server 2008 and later).  Server Manager IS gradually replacing Control Panel on the server side of Windows - like PC Settings, Server Manager didn't throw mice under the bus - and it is also trackpad-friendly.  While there are still portable servers, there aren't THAT many where you would expect trackpad-friendliness out of a server-only feature - yet Server Manager is far friendlier to trackpads than is expected.  If (and I haven't tested it for this in 2012R2) Server Manager is also touch-friendly, then we REALLY have to rethink the question of the why of it - as touch isn't exactly commonplace in the server closet.

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Dot Matrix

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Why?  (Yes - I'm "heart-attack" serious.)

I think he was being sarcastic. We don't need two control panels.

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With 4 MB, two times faced error.. WTH!!! Really irritated right now. + 2 AM here

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neo158

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Horrific reboot times, anyone..? :/

 

Tech Preview with debug code switched on :rolleyes:

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TDT

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Horrific reboot times, anyone..? :/

Yeap. For me, it takes about 1 minute or more from the moment I click on restart till it actually restarts. Also, boot into Win takes much more than 8.1, but I guess it's normal for a TP...

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So we can't delete that? At least can we remove the Windows.old folder? :huh:

 

Sure. Disk Cleanup will do it if selected in the "Clean up System Files" option.

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5 mins+ on reboot/shutdown.  Boot is sweet.

 

"Debug code" - got proof?  Wouldn't this be a 'Free build'?

 

There is debug code turned on in all the preview builds, it's been this way for windows for ever..

 

Check builds only include extra symbols for developers to know what happened when there is an exception or breakpoint set. Symbols != debug code, it's only an explanation of what the code looks like for debuggers when it's code run is broke or something throws an exception that it needs extra info for (symbolic links, references, etc)

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5 mins+ on reboot/shutdown.  Boot is sweet.

 

"Debug code" - got proof?  Wouldn't this be a 'Free build'?

My boot and restart is pretty quick, not as fast as 8.1. But it's pretty quick. Boot up is around 6-8 secs and shut down around 10-15. Running samsumg 840 pro.

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Dot Matrix

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Is there any way to change Metro selection color from ugly purple to something else maintaining windows sky blue?

I was able to change colors after enabling the Start Screen, and going through the Settings charm as you would in Windows 8. I think for right now, those settings are still limited until Microsoft finalizes Windows 10.

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You should be able to create an ISO from the ESD but don't have the details right now.

 

http://forums.mydigitallife.info/threads/53855-Windows-8-1-with-Update-ESDs-Repository#a3 .. click on 'Show' to see all the step involved.

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I just noticed that, looks like they're working on adding more and more stuff into PC settings, once it has everything, even the more advanced stuff I hope, then they'll probably work control panel out of the OS.  

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