[OFFICIAL] Windows 10 Insider Program

By Ian S.
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  1. 1. On a scale of 1-5, 1 being worst, 5 being best. What do you think of Windows 10 from the leaks so far?

    • 5.Great, best OS ever
      156
    • 4. Pretty Good, needs a lot of minor tweaks
      409
    • 3. OK, Needs a few major improvements, some minor ones
      168
    • 2. Fine, Needs a lot of major improvements
      79
    • 1.Poor, Needs too many improvements, all hope is lost, never going to use it
      41

  2. 2. Based on the recent leaks by Neowin and Winfuture.de, my next OS upgrade will be?

    • Windows 10
      720
    • Windows 8
      20
    • Windows 7
      48
    • Sticking with XP
      3
    • OSX Yosemite
      35
    • Linux
      24
    • Sticking with OSX Mavericks
      3

  3. 3. Should Microsoft give away Windows 10 for free?

    • Yes for Windows 8.1 Users
      305
    • Yes for Windows 7 and above users
      227
    • Yes for Vista and above users
      31
    • Yes for XP and above users
      27
    • Yes for all Windows users
      192
    • No
      71

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3 minutes ago, PGHammer said:

I use (and recommend) WPA2 (either Enterprise or WPA2+TKIP+AES), as every wireless adapter in the house (even my moldie-oldie SMC USB stick that only supports wireless-G) can work with that - not to mention every notebook, tablet, and non-legacy phone.  (And yes - the SMC supports Windows 10 - and natively at that, and that is despite dating back to XP.)

I think the problem I have/had is to do with the modem/router I have from the ISP, I can't flat out change it because it does some VoIP stuff that I need, I decided to get a basic AP, connected to the ISP router with Ethernet and doing WiFi while I turned the WiFi from the ISP router that was giving me problems off. I haven't had any more issues connected now, it's been 4 days and counting.

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I think the problem I have/had is to do with the modem/router I have from the ISP, I can't flat out change it because it does some VoIP stuff that I need, I decided to get a basic AP, connected to the ISP router with Ethernet and doing WiFi while I turned the WiFi from the ISP router that was giving me problems off. I haven't had any more issues connected now, it's been 4 days and counting.

I hate/loathe/despise combo modem/routers - from everyone; no exceptions whatever.  I have always preferred a separate modem and separate router.  While we DO have an eMTA from our cable provider that is used for voice, the only additional function on the Internet side it has is as a hotspot - and even that was only used where there was a dead spot inside the house (and with some tweaking I did to the router, there are no longer any dead spots indoors when it comes to wi-fi coverage) - the library adjoining the garage.  My router is a NETGEAR WNDR3700v4 (running DD-WRT current with DHCPv4 and DHCPv6 both active); cable modem is the ARRIS Surfboard SB-6183.

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4 hours ago, PGHammer said:

The issue is more your integrated audio chipset/codec on that motherboard (not the CPU)

Are you sure?  Atoms are SoCs iirc and (from what I saw on my brothers Bay Trail) they don't use your average happy high definition audio chips, rather some I2S garbage that seems firmware+driver dependent to an unhealthy degree.

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7 hours ago, randomevent said:

Are you sure?  Atoms are SoCs iirc and (from what I saw on my brothers Bay Trail) they don't use your average happy high definition audio chips, rather some I2S garbage that seems firmware+driver dependent to an unhealthy degree.

Yeah, I have that i2S stuff showing up in device manager and whatever I try I have issues with sound and graphics. Intel isn't supporting this on windows 10 so I should've expected issues, just a pain in the rear.

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These edge UI errors are a big pain, sometimes I lose tab UI, no text, no icon, even the x to close the tab doesn't show up. But clicking in the dark shows that they're still there and working.

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6 hours ago, George P said:

These edge UI errors are a big pain, sometimes I lose tab UI, no text, no icon, even the x to close the tab doesn't show up. But clicking in the dark shows that they're still there and working.

Edge is really still in development. Not ready for prime time.

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1 hour ago, Gary7 said:

Edge is really still in development. Not ready for prime time.

Disagree.  I've been using it since launch.  Best browser I've got (though it was a little glitchy then) on every box I've used it on.

 

If you've got crappy video drivers that's hardly Microsofts fault.

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8 hours ago, George P said:

These edge UI errors are a big pain, sometimes I lose tab UI, no text, no icon, even the x to close the tab doesn't show up. But clicking in the dark shows that they're still there and working.

I'm not even sure the second gen Atoms supported directx 9 fully, you might want to change to a Bay Trail or Cherry Trail box sometime.

 

Barring that, stick with browsers that have better fallback rendering paths.

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I am observing that my HP Stream 7 works a bit better with 14291. Edge was always very unstable from 10240 until now but 14291 makes it (almost) as good as IE-Metro of Win8.1.

The tablet also feels a bit more responsive compared to th2.

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1 hour ago, randomevent said:

Disagree.  I've been using it since launch.  Best browser I've got (though it was a little glitchy then) on every box I've used it on.

 

If you've got crappy video drivers that's hardly Microsofts fault.

I do not have crappy Video Drivers. I do not care if you disagree. MS says it is still in development so go whine to them. Windows 10 itself is stall in Development. I am using 14279

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I do not have crappy Video Drivers. I do not care if you disagree. MS says it is still in development so go whine to them. Windows 10 itself is stall in Development. I am using 14279

It is in development, on a prerelease OS.  The version provided to release or release preview users is finished.

 

Although, if you want to consider it in development, so is Chrome, FIrefox, Opera, Safari...

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Microsoft has stated that it is still in the Dev stage and will not really be finished until RS2 is released. When RS1 is released sometime in late June or Early July Edge will be better. With every Preview build it is better. As for Firefox et, they have a Final release but yes they also have Nightly Builds, Aurora and Beta builds out and they are not ready for Prime time. The best thing about Edge is that once it is Finished, IE will be gone.

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 i wander if by RS2

 

they will go around and remove stuff like WMP/photo viewer  as well and other legacy application 

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On 3/23/2016 at 8:27 AM, Danielx64 said:

I hope that photo viewer and media player doesn't get removed. They are better than the metro junk.

WMP is still there. not sure about Photo Viewer?!

just noticed cmd doesn't launch normally with admin privileges.....only from task manager; tried sfc and this fails; else it seems to be the same as the previous build

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Upgraded fine, edge still has the same ui glitches though, so that hasn't changed. I'll have to give it a few days to see if i get any of the lockups i got with the last two builds.

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I remember when they released the split skype apps, back then i had a feeling that a full UWA Skype app was coming, it's what people wanted, hell it makes the most sense this way on a desktop/tablet.  Having it split works more on the phone but even there i expect to see this showing up.  They can keep the other apps there on mobile though.

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1 hour ago, George P said:

I remember when they released the split skype apps, back then i had a feeling that a full UWA Skype app was coming, it's what people wanted, hell it makes the most sense this way on a desktop/tablet.  Having it split works more on the phone but even there i expect to see this showing up.  They can keep the other apps there on mobile though.

The separate app layout doesn't even make sense to me.  When you've got full social client functionality as with FB that some people really don't want on their phone it makes sense, but with separate chat and chat?  What?  And why do I have to go to another app to log in to make the first app work?  I don't even get it (not that I really cared too much obviously, but it was just stupid.)

 

I was just going to not use it, but now that they're fixing it heh.

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Edge graphic issues aside, this build has been more stable for me so far. Just wish i could fix my sound issues but no luck.

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My main Microsoft account has stopped syncing contacts on my phone in latest build, everything else works just fine. Strange. :/

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11 minutes ago, Ian S. said:

Video for UWP OneDrive and UWP Skype for Windows 10.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvzmM8xFZi8

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0jPFyr7k3mQ

Watching the Onedrive video, it strikes me that they have an opportunity to improve how content is presented when there are few items that must be displayed versus when there are many items. Icons and lists look fine when there are many items, and tiles scale a little bit better between low and moderate density, but a more responsive view setting seems appropriate when there are just a few (here three, in a sea of white) items in a folder.

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