Supreme Court Rules All States Must License And Recognize Same-Sex Marriages

[HawkMan]

 

Crime or not, they are easily comparable. It used to be a crime for white people to marry outside their race, didn't stop it from happening. Legality shouldn't be the qualifying factor here. Not in this discussion anyways. Bottom line is people have the choice to live that way or not. It is a choice that they actively make. And people do quite often explore outside their sexuality and return to being heterosexual after attempting bisexuality. It's not uncommon for people to d things contrary to their nature for whatever reason. Just because you have imposed some kind of requirement on what they should do given their preferences doesn't mean they have to conform to that expectation.

 

It's simply disrespectful to say that people don't have a choice in how they live their lives, and it minimizes the decisions made by much of the LGBT community to undergo transitions, or openly come out as being gay within their families or communities. They made that choice, and bravely endured the consequences as well as benefited from the positive results of that decision. I doubt most of them took that path without some level of consideration of the pro's and cons to doing so. Cause that's what people do, weight the odds and make educated decisions when they may effect their future.

 

Well actually, the bottom line is consent. rape victims didn't give it, and underage children can't. 

[TPreston]

Personally im surprised there hasn't been a single terrorist attack yet, I expected to wake up this morning and see at least 1 shootings or bombing in reaction to the ruling with all this talk of revolution, resistance and martyrdom from even presidential candidates over the past 6 months.

 

Glad to be wrong on this one, I hope it stays this way.

[Nick H. Supervisor]

Only just read about this. Incredible news, well played America!

[guru]

Well actually, the bottom line is consent. rape victims didn't give it, and underage children can't. 

this.

 

its just malice to compare homosexuality to rape,bestiality and other depraved acts. 

[cork1958]

All I can say is you don't see other species of animals/creatures/beings, doing the same sex thing, do you? Why should humans? Aren't we supposed to be the intelligent one's?

 

Persoanlly,

I don't give a crap if people of the same sex want to be married, but I sure don't want to be around them and their practices either. I'm not going to dislike anyone for their way of life, but.... Same with religion. I don't care what you practice, but keep it away from me!

[Dick Montage]

Crime or not, they are easily comparable

 

So is preferring blondes...

[Nick H. Supervisor]

All I can say is you don't see other species of animals/creatures/beings, doing the same sex thing, do you?

Yes you do.

[wakjak]

Personally im surprised there hasn't been a single terrorist attack yet, I expected to wake up this morning and see at least 1 shootings or bombing in reaction to the ruling with all this talk of revolution, resistance and martyrdom from even presidential candidates over the past 6 months.

 

Glad to be wrong on this one, I hope it stays this way.

 

I was expecting millions of divorces, because you know same sex marriage affects all hetero marriages, so they might as well get divorced.

[mudslag]

All I can say is you don't see other species of animals/creatures/beings, doing the same sex thing, do you? Why should humans? Aren't we supposed to be the intelligent one's?

 

 

 

Yes you do see homosexual behavior in animals. Who you're attracted to has nothing to do with intelligence. 

[The_Decryptor Veteran]

Yes you do.

I owned a pair of gay pigeons once.

[hagjohn]

Unlike being black which is a physical appearance, you can choose to partake in a gay lifestyle or not. Just as a pedophile can choose to touch children or not. Or someone with some weird fascination with rape can choose not to rape people. We are human beings, we are above our urges be it sexual or romantic. To say that because you're born with an attraction to a specific sex or appearance means you can't choose to act contrary to that is ignorant at best. If this were the case, "coming out" wouldn't be a thing.

 

Deny your natural attraction and only have relationships to the sex who do not naturally attract you. How happy of a person do you think you would be? This is what you are asking for gay people to do. 

[TMYW]

Persoanlly,

I don't give a crap if black people live in this country, but I sure don't want to be around them and their practices either. I'm not going to dislike anyone for their way of life, but....

 

How does that sound now? Does prefacing your repugnant statement with "I don't give a crap if..." make your statement any less repugnant?

[FloatingFatMan]

All I can say is you don't see other species of animals/creatures/beings, doing the same sex thing, do you? Why should humans? Aren't we supposed to be the intelligent one's?

Yes, you do actually. Very many species on this planet have homosexuality; it's quite common.

 

Persoanlly,

I don't give a crap if people of the same sex want to be married, but I sure don't want to be around them and their practices either. I'm not going to dislike anyone for their way of life, but.... Same with religion. I don't care what you practice, but keep it away from me!

 

Why? Are they hurting you in any way, shape or form? If so, how so? How does 2 people of the same sex getting married affect your life any way?  If you're of the religious bent, still, how does it affect you?  If it's a sin against god, it's for god to deal with, not people.  If they don't believe in god, then you'd believe they're going to hell anyway, whether they pile additional sin on or not.

 

You seem to be disgusted by the concept of same sex relationships.  Have you ever considered that perhaps they are disgusted by hetero relationships?  You don't see them trying to stop different sex couples expressing their love, or expressing their disgust...

Unlike being black which is a physical appearance, you can choose to partake in a gay lifestyle or not. Just as a pedophile can choose to touch children or not. Or someone with some weird fascination with rape can choose not to rape people. We are human beings, we are above our urges be it sexual or romantic. To say that because you're born with an attraction to a specific sex or appearance means you can't choose to act contrary to that is ignorant at best. If this were the case, "coming out" wouldn't be a thing.

 

So, a gay person is condemned to a life time of misery, never to experience the love and joy of being with your partner of choice, just to not offend your sensibilities? My, aren't you nice...

 

Try not to be so selfish, you'll be happier.

[seta-san]

at least there's one silver lining in this. There is nothing more deadly to a movement that to achieve it's highest goal. Marriage is on it's way out anyway. The younger generation is tossing it aside because the risks of a divorce far outweigh the benefits of being in a marriage.

[Beyond Godlike]

All I can say is you don't see other species of animals/creatures/beings, doing the same sex thing, do you? Why should humans? Aren't we supposed to be the intelligent one's?

 

Persoanlly,

I don't give a crap if people of the same sex want to be married, but I sure don't want to be around them and their practices either. I'm not going to dislike anyone for their way of life, but.... Same with religion. I don't care what you practice, but keep it away from me!

 

Oh boy, this one never went to school.  Homosexuality is common among most species on earth.   Very close minded that youre so terrified of anything different, but luckily your generation wont be around to poison future ones much longer. 

[seta-san]

Oh boy, this one never went to school.  Homosexuality is common among most species on earth.   Very close minded that youre so terrified of anything different, but luckily your generation wont be around to poison future ones much longer. 

yes, it's a common birth defect.

[Beyond Godlike]

yes, it's a common birth defect.

 

Yet the science proves otherwise, have you heard of science or are you just afraid of it?  Meanwhile, stupidity and ignorance is a choice..and i can only pity you for having nothing positive in your life.

at least there's one silver lining in this. There is nothing more deadly to a movement that to achieve it's highest goal. Marriage is on it's way out anyway. The younger generation is tossing it aside because the risks of a divorce far outweigh the benefits of being in a marriage.

 

Just because heterosexuals ruined marriage doesnt mean we will.  Sorry.  Dont you have a date with your cousin or something?  Gotta keep making baby conservatives!

[+Raze Subscriber²]

Oh boy, this one never went to school.  Homosexuality is common among most species on earth.   Very close minded that youre so terrified of anything different, but luckily your generation wont be around to poison future ones much longer. 

 

Whoa way to go with such a broad generalization.  There are many in that generation and earlier who got the ball rolling on LGBT rights and SSM.  Don't be so quick to condemn, you come across as close minded and uneducated.

[seta-san]

Yet the science proves otherwise, have you heard of science or are you just afraid of it?  Meanwhile, stupidity and ignorance is a choice..and i can only pity you for having nothing positive in your life.

 

Just because heterosexuals ruined marriage doesnt mean we will.  Sorry.  Dont you have a date with your cousin or something?  Gotta keep making baby conservatives!

actually feminists ruined marriage but, meh. Having to go to a court just to break up is stupid.

 

and science actually shows that homosexuality isn't an intended result. DNA desires to reproduce. It's the one and only thing we know that all of our ancestors did going back to the beginning of life itself. Any DNA in a species that reproduces sexually that would cause homosexuality would cause it's own extinction. On the other hand, other than some masochists, no one chooses to be gay. Because homosexuality couldn't be genetic and for the most part isn't social there is has to be a third option. The only other realistic option is that it's a birth defect caused by hormones that the mother is or isn't supposed to give to a child of a certain gender while it's in the womb.

[Alera]

actually feminists ruined marriage but, meh. Having to go to a court just to break up is stupid.

 

and science actually shows that homosexuality isn't an intended result. DNA desires to reproduce. It's the one and only thing we know that all of our ancestors did going back to the beginning of life itself. Any DNA in a species that reproduces sexually that would cause homosexuality would cause it's own extinction. On the other hand, other than some masochists, no one chooses to be gay. Because homosexuality couldn't be genetic and for the most part isn't social there is has to be a third option. The only other realistic option is that it's a birth defect caused by hormones that the mother is or isn't supposed to give to a child of a certain gender while it's in the womb.

 

On the contrary, there are perceived benefits in evolutionary theory while being homosexual. A lot of hypotheses have been made that could actually explain why it can be a good thing in terms of competition as well as another way of controlling the rate of breeding naturally. You don't have to be masochistic to want to take part in a same sex lifestyle, if you were bisexual in nature. I like that you bring up DNA and homosexuality too, I hope you don't believe there is a literal link between the two but are using it as an argument against the idea of a "gay gene".

 

Nature has done a lot of things through evolution that lead to extinction and a lot of things that did not. We and a lot of species are still here and there are examples of homosexuality to be found in almost every species that we can study.

 

I won't argue that feminists have ruined marriage but that won't stop same sex marriages from happening and who knows, maybe they'll do better at it.

[TMYW]

On the contrary, there are perceived benefits in evolutionary theory while being homosexual. A lot of hypotheses have been made that could actually explain why it can be a good thing in terms of competition as well as another way of controlling the rate of breeding naturally. You don't have to be masochistic to want to take part in a same sex lifestyle, if you were bisexual in nature. I like that you bring up DNA and homosexuality too, I hope you don't believe there is a literal link between the two but are using it as an argument against the idea of a "gay gene".

 

Nature has done a lot of things through evolution that lead to extinction and a lot of things that did not. We and a lot of species are still here and there are examples of homosexuality to be found in almost every species that we can study.

 

I won't argue that feminists have ruined marriage but that won't stop same sex marriages from happening and who knows, maybe they'll do better at it.

According to the genius of seta-san, giant pandas must all be born with a birth defect too. A carnivoran that eats only bamboo and having the sex drive of a impotent centenarian couldn't possibly have been shaped that way by genetics.

[TMYW]

yes, it's a common birth defect.

Stupidity and intolerance for other members of your species must also be a birth defect, because these characteristics will certainly reduce the likelihood you'll ever pass on your genes.

 

Open your eyes. Attitudes like yours are becoming rarer and rarer these days. Consider yourself an endangered species.

[Beyond Godlike]

actually feminists ruined marriage but, meh. Having to go to a court just to break up is stupid.

 

and science actually shows that homosexuality isn't an intended result. DNA desires to reproduce. It's the one and only thing we know that all of our ancestors did going back to the beginning of life itself. Any DNA in a species that reproduces sexually that would cause homosexuality would cause it's own extinction. On the other hand, other than some masochists, no one chooses to be gay. Because homosexuality couldn't be genetic and for the most part isn't social there is has to be a third option. The only other realistic option is that it's a birth defect caused by hormones that the mother is or isn't supposed to give to a child of a certain gender while it's in the womb.

 

It's cute watching ppl who dont believe in education debate about science.  On the upside, this is proof that trailer parks are getting wifi!

Stupidity and intolerance for other members of your species must also be a birth defect, because these characteristics will certainly reduce the likelihood you'll ever pass on your genes.

 

Open your eyes. Attitudes like yours are becoming rarer and rarer these days. Consider yourself an endangered species.

 

Or better yet, join that pastor who wants to burn himself alive because of the ruling.  Thatll really show us. 

[Emn1ty]

Deny your natural attraction and only have relationships to the sex who do not naturally attract you. How happy of a person do you think you would be? This is what you are asking for gay people to do. 

 

I'm saying I won't judge people based on their life choices, if they choose that path themselves that's their own choice. I don't get why people presume to think that you have to be a certain way in order to be true to yourself. It's just a different type of conformity you're imposing on them. It's not about how happy I think they'll be. It's about themselves and their own happiness. If they are comfortable with their life choices, then who am I (or you) to say otherwise?

 

So, a gay person is condemned to a life time of misery, never to experience the love and joy of being with your partner of choice, just to not offend your sensibilities? My, aren't you nice...

 

Try not to be so selfish, you'll be happier.

 

You are really good at completely ignoring someone's post and posting whatever you feel like posting instead. Try reading, it helps cause I can't understand how you possibly got that out of what I posted. Take your crusade somewhere else.

[FloatingFatMan]

You are really good at completely ignoring someone's post and posting whatever you feel like posting instead. Try reading, it helps cause I can't understand how you possibly got that out of what I posted. Take your crusade somewhere else.

 

I did read, quite carefully.

 

 

Unlike being black which is a physical appearance, you can choose to partake in a gay lifestyle or not. Just as a pedophile can choose to touch children or not. Or someone with some weird fascination with rape can choose not to rape people. We are human beings, we are above our urges be it sexual or romantic. To say that because you're born with an attraction to a specific sex or appearance means you can't choose to act contrary to that is ignorant at best. If this were the case, "coming out" wouldn't be a thing.

 

 

You're pretty much saying that homosexuals should just ignore their feelings and choose a more conventional relationship instead of giving in to their urges. You're denigrating their emotions into nothing more than simple choice.  Answer this, assuming you're hetero, at what point in your life did you "choose" to like people of the opposite sex, and what made you make that choice?

 

After all, if it's a choice, you should be able to answer that question quite easily.