C.H. Tech Man Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 (edited) Yes, I was wondering WTF was going on with windows 10...the usual 'user name and password only' would not work as it did in previous windows versions. Well some of the previous versions anyway. Windows 10 does indeed need the computername/username combo in the user box for GUI shares. Thanks Guys for clearing this up. I was sitting here hitting the pipe and thinking WTF and then turned to google and found this blog, completely forgetting my training about good practices to use the combo\combo technique when dealing with remote shares/logins etc. Not sure why windows 10 requires this but all that matters is that we know NOW how it works...trying to understand 'why' is something i am not sure even Microsoft knows. LOL Edited October 3, 2015 by C.H. Tech Man +Warwagon 1 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1261994-fix-windows-10-accessing-network-drives-password-incorrect/page/2/#findComment-597068192 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawkMan Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 Yes, I was wondering WTF was going on with windows 10...the usual 'user name and password only' would not work as it did in previous windows versions. Well some of the previous versions anyway. Windows 10 does indeed need the computername/username combo in the user box for GUI shares. Thanks Guys for clearing this up. I was sitting here hitting the pipe and thinking WTF and then turned to google and found this blog, completely forgetting my training about good practices to use the combo\combo technique when dealing with remote shares/logins etc. Not sure why windows 10 requires this but all that matters is that we know NOW how it works...trying to understand 'why' is something i am not sure even Microsoft knows. LOL Well it doesn't, but sometimes it does... but usually it doesn't. there is somethign special about the cases where it does. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1261994-fix-windows-10-accessing-network-drives-password-incorrect/page/2/#findComment-597068248 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Veteran Posted October 3, 2015 Veteran Share Posted October 3, 2015 I think I encountered the same thing a couple of months ago - I ended up redoing the Homegroup from scratch on a small network and that sorted it. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1261994-fix-windows-10-accessing-network-drives-password-incorrect/page/2/#findComment-597068282 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+BudMan MVC Posted October 6, 2015 MVC Share Posted October 6, 2015 homegroups.. Yeah that could throw a wrench into it.. Who said anything about homegroups?? OP sure didn't make any mention of it -- but since windows like to fire it up with really asking you if you want it.. That could mess up fire sharing for sure. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1261994-fix-windows-10-accessing-network-drives-password-incorrect/page/2/#findComment-597072136 Share on other sites More sharing options...
electriac Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 I give up returning to Win7 etacarinae 1 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1261994-fix-windows-10-accessing-network-drives-password-incorrect/page/2/#findComment-597127870 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawkMan Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 I give up returning to Win7 what? give up what, you haven't even posted in this thread? persiomenezes 1 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1261994-fix-windows-10-accessing-network-drives-password-incorrect/page/2/#findComment-597129720 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarnerL Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 You are the best +warwagon. I was also wondering WTF was going on but once I tried your solution, it worked perfectly. But I discovered the problem only arises when the first Win10 machine is logged into a microsoft account and trying to access the network shares of another Win10 machine. The Win10 machine that is logged into a microsoft account can access the network share of my Win7 machine with just the straight username/password but trying to access the Win10 machine requires your solution. If the first Win10 machine is logged in using a local account instead of the microsoft account, then it can access the Win10 and the Win7 machine with just the username/password with no need for your solution. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1261994-fix-windows-10-accessing-network-drives-password-incorrect/page/2/#findComment-597155628 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Borhan Uddin Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 Thank you very much, worked like a charm! Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1261994-fix-windows-10-accessing-network-drives-password-incorrect/page/2/#findComment-597156240 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BinaryData Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 I'm reading this, and all the posts. It doesn't make sense why people would have issues. Even if you use the same username, which I do for all of my VMs, i.e. vmubu / winadmin. I've never had this problem, occasionally I have issues with devices being shown on the network, specifically my laptop, but that's just some settings that need to be changed. Oh well. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1261994-fix-windows-10-accessing-network-drives-password-incorrect/page/2/#findComment-597160832 Share on other sites More sharing options...
binaryzero Posted December 5, 2015 Share Posted December 5, 2015 <machine name>\<user name> ALWAYS best practice. Can't think of a time where i haven't entered credentials like <. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1261994-fix-windows-10-accessing-network-drives-password-incorrect/page/2/#findComment-597166898 Share on other sites More sharing options...
offroadaaron Posted December 5, 2015 Share Posted December 5, 2015 52 minutes ago, Jared- said: <machine name>\<user name> ALWAYS best practice. Can't think of a time where i haven't entered credentials like <. I can't remember I time that I have... Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1261994-fix-windows-10-accessing-network-drives-password-incorrect/page/2/#findComment-597166932 Share on other sites More sharing options...
binaryzero Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 So if you're working on a domain joined machine, and you want to authenticate using a local account, how would you go about it? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1261994-fix-windows-10-accessing-network-drives-password-incorrect/page/2/#findComment-597169368 Share on other sites More sharing options...
offroadaaron Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 31 minutes ago, Jared- said: So if you're working on a domain joined machine, and you want to authenticate using a local account, how would you go about it? .\username You didn't think I'd have an answer to your question did you Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1261994-fix-windows-10-accessing-network-drives-password-incorrect/page/2/#findComment-597169400 Share on other sites More sharing options...
binaryzero Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 On a local machine that'd work, but what if I was on a remote machine wanting to authenticate using a local account? ^^ Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1261994-fix-windows-10-accessing-network-drives-password-incorrect/page/2/#findComment-597169404 Share on other sites More sharing options...
offroadaaron Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 28 minutes ago, Jared- said: On a local machine that'd work, but what if I was on a remote machine wanting to authenticate using a local account? ^^ Are you sure about that? I'll give you a pro tip Spoiler it works remote and local Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1261994-fix-windows-10-accessing-network-drives-password-incorrect/page/2/#findComment-597169406 Share on other sites More sharing options...
binaryzero Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 I can use .\ to authenticate to a remote machine using a local account that's living on the remote machine? I would've thought using .\ would tell Windows to try and authenticate using a local account that's living on my machine? Cool! You learn something new every day offroadaaron 1 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1261994-fix-windows-10-accessing-network-drives-password-incorrect/page/2/#findComment-597169824 Share on other sites More sharing options...
offroadaaron Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 2 hours ago, Jared- said: I can use .\ to authenticate to a remote machine using a local account that's living on the remote machine? 100% you can. I would've thought using .\ would tell Windows to try and authenticate using a local account that's living on my machine? What do you think it does when you're not on a domain then? .\ makes It authenticate exactly the same as if you weren't on a domain. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1261994-fix-windows-10-accessing-network-drives-password-incorrect/page/2/#findComment-597169938 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Thayios Subscriber² Posted December 7, 2015 Subscriber² Share Posted December 7, 2015 On 9/20/2015, 8:36:39, BudMan said: And is NOT required if box your authing to is not a member of a domain.. As you clearly see from multiple examples sending BS as domain\computername still auths since the machine can only check its local account base. Yes if your going to auth to a member of a AD machine, then you would have to specify which you want to use its account or domain account or you could run into problems. Normally if your on AD, then your machines would both be members and you wouldn't have to get a popup since your domain account have been given permissions by the admin of the domain. This is correct, it only matters if you're on a domain (so you need to specify DOMAIN\UserX), otherwise you can use WHATEVER\UserX and it'll connect just fine. If you've got HomeGroup Sharing turned on is the only other thing I can think of that would mess with Auth (and even then I'm not 100% sure it does change anything) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1261994-fix-windows-10-accessing-network-drives-password-incorrect/page/2/#findComment-597169958 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+BudMan MVC Posted December 7, 2015 MVC Share Posted December 7, 2015 homegroup sharing woudln't have any issues.. I take it these users are using MS accounts vs local.. Which changes everything.. Really need to clarify if your talking apples or oranges... This is EXACTLY how FUD gets started and spreads... Someone thinks they found a solution, when really does not even apply.. Waiting for someone to say they need to be in the same workgroup Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1261994-fix-windows-10-accessing-network-drives-password-incorrect/page/2/#findComment-597169960 Share on other sites More sharing options...
binaryzero Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 Yeah I'm talking Domain accounts vs local accounts here. I should've prob made myself clear. Whatevs, I forget the reason this thread is here anyway lol Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1261994-fix-windows-10-accessing-network-drives-password-incorrect/page/2/#findComment-597169964 Share on other sites More sharing options...
offroadaaron Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 For home use with Microsoft logins (whatever you call it) you know you can use credential manage to manage connections, right? So say I connect to my NAS and it's named fileserver I can go to credential manager under that account (the MS account) and add in the network address (fileserver) and then the username and password, that way if I want to have a login script to map drives or browse to fileserver I don't need to type a password in under that account. I think I might be a bit off-topic though, but it's an option that might help. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1261994-fix-windows-10-accessing-network-drives-password-incorrect/page/2/#findComment-597170006 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Packet1009 Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 posting here just to agree with everything that BudMan says (he's doing the Lord's work in keeping you lot on the straight and narrow) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1261994-fix-windows-10-accessing-network-drives-password-incorrect/page/2/#findComment-597170044 Share on other sites More sharing options...
offroadaaron Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 7 hours ago, Packet1009 said: posting here just to agree with everything that BudMan says (he's doing the Lord's work in keeping you lot on the straight and narrow) Are you just blindly saying that without technically knowing what he is saying? Because it seems so. etacarinae and adrynalyne 2 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1261994-fix-windows-10-accessing-network-drives-password-incorrect/page/2/#findComment-597170836 Share on other sites More sharing options...
binaryzero Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 9 hours ago, Packet1009 said: posting here just to agree with everything that BudMan says (he's doing the Lord's work in keeping you lot on the straight and narrow) LOL! Yeah and I wouldn't take half of the advice he spits out sometimes too... Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1261994-fix-windows-10-accessing-network-drives-password-incorrect/page/2/#findComment-597171030 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Packet1009 Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 *sigh* and here we go again... i am not aware of any posts of his where his advice has been incorrect - however, i do not follow every dashed thing he posts. in this case, however, he's spot on - specifying a workgroup is absolutely pointless and unnecessary. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1261994-fix-windows-10-accessing-network-drives-password-incorrect/page/2/#findComment-597172410 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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