AnotherITguy Posted July 30, 2015 Share Posted July 30, 2015 You do realize... that there is a patch out where it allows you to control when and where the updates are done for WINDOWS 10 HOME Right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jub Posted July 30, 2015 Share Posted July 30, 2015 I tried to tell you that Windows Update (at its overall) is the same for both. (Home&Pro) I've seen EDU,then ENT (+/- LTSB)...no big deal... Instead of being happy because MS is developing new stuff in the way it does today,you compete in an Edition's fight... Related to the OP,why do you consider WU such a big pain? Fair enough, thanks for clarifying that. I understood Pro users would be able to change the update settings. However, I'm in no 'edition fight'. Where did you get that from? And where did I say I'm unhappy that Microsoft are developing new stuff? MikeM97 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nekrosoft13 Posted July 30, 2015 Share Posted July 30, 2015 You do realize... that there is a patch out where it allows you to control when and where the updates are done for WINDOWS 10 HOME Right? that tool only allows you to disable certain updates that you select that given time when you run that tool. It doesn't control all future updates, so unless you run that tool everyday, there will be updates that will install without your permission. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeM97 Posted July 30, 2015 Share Posted July 30, 2015 Fair enough, thanks for clarifying that. I understood Pro users would be able to change the update settings. However, I'm in no 'edition fight'. Where did you get that from? And where did I say I'm unhappy that Microsoft are developing new stuff? Pro has that Defer. (despite Home) But only just. You seemed to accuse me that I whatever call Pro users and so...I'm not any kind of that... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnotherITguy Posted July 30, 2015 Share Posted July 30, 2015 You know... there are people out there who have no clue why they need to run WINDOWS UPDATE, this in my humble opinion will make their lives a little safer. MikeM97 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adrynalyne Posted July 30, 2015 Share Posted July 30, 2015 I'm using home.. and? No comment. /thinks back to UEFI threads SledgeNZ 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeM97 Posted July 30, 2015 Share Posted July 30, 2015 You know... there are people out there who have no clue why they need to run WINDOWS UPDATE, this in my humble opinion will make their lives a little safer. I do believe that MS kept it so too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vcfan Posted July 30, 2015 Share Posted July 30, 2015 (edited) This itself is huge and one faulty driver can knock out millions of perfectly working PCs. and an OS vulnerability can cause much more damage than minor driver annoyances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neo1911 Posted July 30, 2015 Author Share Posted July 30, 2015 and an OS vulnerability can cause much more damage than minor driver annoyances. Lol do you seriously think that patching that 1 flaw will leave users protected? At this point of writing, there are few security holes in Windows 10 down to Windows XP which you, me and even Microsoft is unaware of. At least do you accept that no software can ever be invulnerable? Security problems will be there forever. But one forced update be it bad Nvidia, Intel or AMD driver or MS KB patch can cause havoc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butters Stotch Posted July 30, 2015 Share Posted July 30, 2015 Unfortunately, DX12 is what has me tied up on Windows 10. If it wasn't for DX12, I'd stay on Windows 7. I have one of the few GPUs that truly support DX12 ( Nvidia 900 series ). First enforced driver update, messed our systems up. I mean, what are the odds... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adrynalyne Posted July 30, 2015 Share Posted July 30, 2015 (edited) Lol do you seriously think that patching that 1 flaw will leave users protected? At this point of writing, there are few security holes in Windows 10 down to Windows XP which you, me and even Microsoft is unaware of. At least do you accept that no software can ever be invulnerable? Security problems will be there forever. But one forced update be it bad Nvidia, Intel or AMD driver or MS KB patch can cause havoc. Same question, different angle. Do you seriously think that not patching that 1 flaw will leave users protected? The very attitude you are taking is part of the reason why so many people are hit by exploited vulnerabilities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dadwen Posted July 30, 2015 Share Posted July 30, 2015 and an OS vulnerability can cause much more damage than minor driver annoyances. Thing is though, for a bad driver or patch that's forced everyone will put all the blame on MS and be correct in their anger but a missed patch in the end it's still the users fault. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeM97 Posted July 30, 2015 Share Posted July 30, 2015 There'll never be a perfect system... Flawless protection,bad polished drivers...there will stay whether we like it or not... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astra.Xtreme Posted July 30, 2015 Share Posted July 30, 2015 Nvidia released new drivers yesterday, so problem solved. I do still find it a little annoying that the driver gets automatically installed and disables my SLI. More so an annoyance with the Nvidia driver itself though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fugi Posted July 30, 2015 Share Posted July 30, 2015 If you're running Windows 10 Home, I don't know what you're doing on a site like Neowin. How it that at all relevant to the discussion? Step off your high horse dude.... It isn't like Neowin is some elitist tech hub(and even if it was this comment would still be inappropriate). It'd be nice if we tried to help one another instead of talking ###### every chance you get.... neo1911, Dadwen and Depicus 3 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Red King Subscriber² Posted July 30, 2015 Subscriber² Share Posted July 30, 2015 How it that at all relevant to the discussion? Step off your high horse dude.... It isn't like Neowin is some elitist tech hub(and even if it was this comment would still be inappropriate). It'd be nice if we tried to help one another instead of talking ###### every chance you get.... But, honestly, Home Edition is for normal people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blank Posted July 30, 2015 Share Posted July 30, 2015 (edited) Whilst at first I hated the idea, now I think its a good idea. Windows is service/platform. Developers should make sure their crap works on Windows, and not the other way around. Meaning, windows should always be up to date, and if you want your software on it, make sure it always works with the latest update. No reason to have machines out there that havent been updated for months/years because of lazy developers, bogging down windows support. lets all have the same version. I do think this will wake up developers, and soon it wont be an issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeM97 Posted July 30, 2015 Share Posted July 30, 2015 Whilst at first I hated the idea, now I think its a good idea. Windows is service/platform. Developers should make sure their crap works on Windows, and not the other way around. Meaning, windows should always be up to date, and if you want your software on it, make sure it always works with the latest update. No reason to have machines out there that havent been updated for months/years because of lazy developers, bogging down windows support. lets all have the same version. I do think this will wake up developers, and soon it wont be an issue. That could be a golden post if there weren't some big issues with the latest updates. BinaryData 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BinaryData Posted July 30, 2015 Share Posted July 30, 2015 I agree. One version for all! Though, I don't think that would push developers to update anything. As long as Windows supports the compatibility feature, no dev will upgrade their code on a huge project. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnDom Posted July 30, 2015 Share Posted July 30, 2015 But, honestly, Home Edition is for normal people. I generally try to keep quiet... but comments like these are really annoying. Unless you are a volume license customer, running Enterprise Editions, and managing updates with your own internal WSUS servers... then you too are "normal" people. Don't let a little technical knowledge go to your head. Fugi 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeM97 Posted July 30, 2015 Share Posted July 30, 2015 I just got done making a video on how to disable Windows Update using a different method other than advance settings section of Windows Update Does it work on your PC? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laurel Harper Posted July 30, 2015 Share Posted July 30, 2015 This Win10 is a beta, so I guess we'll see how "buggy" it turns out to be or not to be. That is the question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vvo Posted July 30, 2015 Share Posted July 30, 2015 yes, it did. Now my windows update will only look for new updates but tells you when it's ready to download and install. I've been using this trick since the tp days Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeM97 Posted July 30, 2015 Share Posted July 30, 2015 yes, it did. Now my windows update will only look for new updates but tells you when it's ready to download and install. I've been using this trick since the tp days Ok. Does it work between any Windows 10 edition? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adrynalyne Posted July 30, 2015 Share Posted July 30, 2015 I generally try to keep quiet... but comments like these are really annoying. Unless you are a volume license customer, running Enterprise Editions, and managing updates with your own internal WSUS servers... then you too are "normal" people. Don't let a little technical knowledge go to your head. I run Enterprise. Yay, I am not normal! Fugi 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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