Windows 10 just keeps installing the darned driver...

[Jose_49]

For Christ Sake! The only big super problem that I have with Windows 10 is the crippled Windows Update experience. It just plain sucks. I have a Lenovo Y510p, by itself the touchpad is not good. It feels cheap plastic.When I purchased the computer the drivers which came with it were horrendous. Fortunately I managed to learn that there were some Synpatic drivers that could be installed. Unfortunately they were unsigned, so it took me a while to learn on how to disable the Driver Signature Enforcement. Everything went very smooth and since then Windows 8.x experience has been greatly improved, and it became a pretty usable trackpad with the driver update!

Now, entering Windows 10. The bloody OS which I tend to love, keeps updating to a "newer" Lenovo driver which is fatal, and cripples my experience. This is what I have done; I'm almost on the verge of killing myself.

1. Uninstalled Lenovo Drivers and installed the old one. This process takes me around 30 minutes since I need to restart four (4) times the machine: 2 for uninstalling the Lenovo ###### drivers (since it has two versions of them). 1 for disabling Driver Signature, and the last one to make the changes effective. Unfortunately Windows 10 gives crap about this and installs the new one instead.
2. Tried "Hiding the Updates" using MS tool. Would you believe me that the damned driver eludes this tool and does not appear? It just don't (I think it learned its tactics from Bin Laden because it won't appear on the list). I uninstall the driver, restart the PC and search for updates. No Lenovo driver to be found. Then, a couple of minutes later I see that the trackpad stops working and BAM! The damned driver is back on track. It just feels like AIDS.
3. Disabled "Device Installation Settings" by setting "Never install driver software from Windows Update". But the little parasite eludes this and installs anyways.
4. When to a .ini file and changed the driver version successfully. Set the driver version from 19 to 99 and the date from 2015 to 2099. Anyhow, gloriously the Operating System says that the driver it has downloaded from the Internet is newer and shows the middle finger to the old one and installs it anyway.

I'm really really really really ###### off. I have been using my trackpad without issues since WIndows 8. I have been testing Windows 10 since its conception and I started having this problem around Build 10130 and still propagates on 10547.

I don't know what to do. I'm tired of losing time and my google abilities have worn out. I really need help with this. Furthermore, with the "newly improved" driver that the almighty OS downloads, it disables the trackpad from time to time due to a "feature" (which I can't turn off in this new driver), scrolling does not work, and... I just really do not want to keep writing.... -__-

 

Any ideas people? Thanks a lot!

[alex_d2w]

Have you tried installing drivers from manufacturer website?
http://support.lenovo.com/us/en/products/laptops-and-netbooks/ideapad-y-series-laptops/ideapad-y510p-notebook/downloads/DS037924

[daorbed9]

I had to stop using Lenovo's for my customers because of the touchpads they use now.  They are simply horrible.  Forcing unsigned drivers isn't really ideal on a secure OS.  My suggestion would be to try some of the drivers for the more recent models which seem to have better drivers and see if you can find any that work without forcing unsigned.

[neufuse Veteran]

Microsoft needs to give us some control back over updates... install critical updates automatically yes, but drivers which we might want to control (and some of which do NOT show up on the tool they gave us, I know I have two that don't) and non-critical updates should be pickable...

[Jose_49]

Forcing unsigned drivers isn't really ideal on a secure OS.  My suggestion would be to try some of the drivers for the more recent models which seem to have better drivers and see if you can find any that work without forcing unsigned.

I'll try with Alex's suggestion to see if this one includes the same feature set. Because that is the problem. With recent drivers I lose the ability to set custom taps, disable the "Activation Gesture" which each 15 - 30 minutes mysteriously disables my touchpad.

Have you tried installing drivers from manufacturer website?
http://support.lenovo.com/us/en/products/laptops-and-netbooks/ideapad-y-series-laptops/ideapad-y510p-notebook/downloads/DS037924

I'll try. Hope that they are the same feature set. Unfortunately since they are from an older date, Windows 10 will wipe it out and install the crappy and newer one.

Microsoft needs to give us some control back over updates... install critical updates automatically yes, but drivers which we might want to control (and some of which do NOT show up on the tool they gave us, I know I have two that don't) and non-critical updates should be pickable...

This x 1,000,000! This should be addressed ASAP. I don't always have a good platform for using an external mice, so the trackpad comes in very handy on most situations.

[neufuse Veteran]

I'll try with Alex's suggestion to see if this one includes the same feature set. Because that is the problem. With recent drivers I lose the ability to set custom taps, disable the "Activation Gesture" which each 15 - 30 minutes mysteriously disables my touchpad.

I'll try. Hope that they are the same feature set. Unfortunately since they are from an older date, Windows 10 will wipe it out and install the crappy and newer one.

This x 1,000,000! This should be addressed ASAP. I don't always have a good platform for using an external mice, so the trackpad comes in very handy on most situations.

windows 10 keeps installing what it thinks is "newer" audio drivers on one of my systems... they don't show up on the update tool as ones you can ignore... and every time it "updates" them sound stops working... the worst part is the version number of the drivers it provides is actually lower then the ones I want to use.....

[adrynalyne]

I turned off driver updates and it works, except for my touchpad. Everything else has stayed at the older version I specified.

[Jose_49]

 

windows 10 keeps installing what it thinks is "newer" audio drivers on one of my systems... they don't show up on the update tool as ones you can ignore... and every time it "updates" them sound stops working... the worst part is the version number of the drivers it provides is actually lower then the ones I want to use.....

Sigh

I turned off driver updates and it works, except for my touchpad. Everything else has stayed at the older version I specified.

Same problem here.

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On the other hand, alex I tried the drivers you've specified, and they aren't with the feature set I'm looking for. I saw a recently purchased PC from HP which had the same drivers I was looking for. I'll try updating those to see how long it will take before Windows uninstall them and reinstall the "new and improved" drivers.

[+Zlip792 MVC]

Did you try:

START > RUN or (Windows Key + R) and then copy/paste this:

control sysdm.cpl,,2

 

Now do the below mentioned in screenshot:

It will not stop, already installed or currently downloading drivers through Windows Update though it will stop future downloads.

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If you want latest OEM based or Retail driver based on the installed, then please try to use "Snappy Driver Installer". It will download the trackpad driver and install based on the OEM and Retail to the latest.

Link - http://sourceforge.net/projects/snappy-driver-installer/

 

[Anibal P]

^^ Easier to complain than to look for a real alternative

Of course the complainers tend to be of the "Win 10 is garbage" crowd or totally clueless 

[7Dash8]

Try reading what the OP wrote, he already says he did that in point 3 of his first post and it doesn't work.

The most logical solution would be if Microsoft just damn well gave us the option to control Windows Updates on the allegedly "Pro" version of their new OS...

[+Zlip792 MVC]

Try reading what the OP read, he already says he did that in point 3 of his first post and it doesn't work.

The most logical solution would be if Microsoft just damn well gave us the option to control Windows Updates on the allegedly "Pro" version of their new OS...

 

Sorry! my bad for not reading the OP thread since tl;dr though my second part of the reply is still valid.

[7Dash8]

That's OK, my blunt reply was directed more at Anibal P -- one of the many blind Windows 10 defenders who pop into any thread to tell us our problems are all our own fault, instead of acknowledging Microsoft's stupidity in stripping choice from users.

[Jose_49]

Well people, thanks all for your replies. I ended up doing the following: I disabled 'Give me updates for other Microsoft products when I update Windows". I believe Office won't be updated (sigh), but at least I'm using my driver correctly. 

And, btw, I'm not only complaining, I'm seeking for a solution. This problem has haunted me for 7-8 months. I love Windows 10 and been using it since the beginning. But this is a no go. We need to be heard in order for Microsoft fix this thing... Feedback is usually flooded (I've posted a couple of them) so it's always nice to post it around the web. 

[goretsky Supervisor]

Hello,

Have you checked with Lenovo technical support to see if they have any device drivers that might work better for your system?  Some companies often have programs like this in place to test drivers which haven't been released publicly yet.  They provide them to a customer for testing purposes (and some external feedback/validation), but only when a customer contacts them to ask about the issue which the drivers are supposed to fix.

Regards,

Aryeh Goretsky

 

[Jose_49]

Hello,

Have you checked with Lenovo technical support to see if they have any device drivers that might work better for your system?  Some companies often have programs like this in place to test drivers which haven't been released publicly yet.  They provide them to a customer for testing purposes (and some external feedback/validation), but only when a customer contacts them to ask about the issue which the drivers are supposed to fix.

Regards,

Aryeh Goretsky

 

Thanks a lot!!!

[Jose_49]

Hello people! Just installed the latest preview build (10,565) and to my surprise they've simplified the Device Installation window... I don't know if this is a good or bad thing. What I know is that when I upgraded the driver updated itself and the "Give me updates for other Microsoft products when I update Windows" was unticked.