Night Prowler Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 There seems to be a slew of these type of utilities making their way to end users. After looking at a bunch of these utilities it seems that O&O ShutUp10 may be one of the more useful ones. However I remember the last time I tried one of these types of programs it interfered with getting my Fast track preview builds, and I ended up imaging back because I was unable to reverse the settings. Is there really any reason to use one of these. I know privacy is a big concern, and I'm not really sure how much information needs to be made available going out of Windows 10. I don't want to go too far and loose some crucial options. Does anyone have suggestions what can, and should be turned off as a bare minimum in Windows 10? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1282584-windows-10-the-minimum-tweaking-of-privacy-settings/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
birdie Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 None can fully protect you from privacy invasion features which are built in the OS and which are getting updated and "improved" with every service release. Abandon all hope, resistance is futile. Jokes aside - if you do value your privacy, install Windows 7/8.1 but do NOT install telemetry updates, i.e. set your automatic updates policy to "Notify, do not download or install". simplezz 1 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1282584-windows-10-the-minimum-tweaking-of-privacy-settings/#findComment-597197296 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mockingbird Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 All these "privacy concerns" are overblown. Turn off advertising ID and that's about it. Dot Matrix and Jim K 2 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1282584-windows-10-the-minimum-tweaking-of-privacy-settings/#findComment-597197304 Share on other sites More sharing options...
birdie Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 (edited) 15 hours ago, illegaloperation said: All these "privacy concerns" are overblown. Turn off advertising ID and that's about it. You have nothing to hide, right? Then why do you keep the door of your toilet closed when you're taking a #####? Microsoft/Apple/Google/BigBro want more people like you - who are gullible enough to scream from every rooftop "There's nothing to worry about". Edited December 22, 2015 by zhangm do not circumvent swear filter simplezz and Order_66 2 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1282584-windows-10-the-minimum-tweaking-of-privacy-settings/#findComment-597197314 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mockingbird Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 15 hours ago, birdie said: You have nothing to hide, right? Then why do you keep the door of your toilet closed when you're taking a #####? Microsoft/Apple/Google/BigBro want more people like you - who are gullible enough to scream from every rooftop "There's nothing to worry about". There are differences between being "concerned" and being "paranoid". DConnell 1 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1282584-windows-10-the-minimum-tweaking-of-privacy-settings/#findComment-597197324 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian W Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 On Monday, December 21, 2015 at 8:41 AM, Night Prowler said: There seems to be a slew of these type of utilities making their way to end users. After looking at a bunch of these utilities it seems that O&O ShutUp10 may be one of the more useful ones. However I remember the last time I tried one of these types of programs it interfered with getting my Fast track preview builds, and I ended up imaging back because I was unable to reverse the settings. Is there really any reason to use one of these. I know privacy is a big concern, and I'm not really sure how much information needs to be made available going out of Windows 10. I don't want to go too far and loose some crucial options. Does anyone have suggestions what can, and should be turned off as a bare minimum in Windows 10? A program is not necessary to adjust the settings as most, if not all of them, can be adjusted natively in Windows 10. The Settings application includes most of the settings that can be disabled. Without any details about features you are required (or would like) to use, it would be difficult to determine the trade-offs you would be willing to make in Windows 10 by disabling some of its settings. For feature descriptions and lists, please see http://lifehacker.com/what-windows-10s-privacy-nightmare-settings-actually-1722267229 8 hours ago, birdie said: Jokes aside - if you do value your privacy, install Windows 7/8.1 but do NOT install telemetry updates, i.e. set your automatic updates policy to "Notify, do not download or install". You somehow imply that those releases lack any privacy-invasive features. OP did not ask for a recommendation to downgrade to an earlier operating system. Your recommendation is, for nearly all intents and purposes, irrelevant to what the OP describes. +Raze 1 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1282584-windows-10-the-minimum-tweaking-of-privacy-settings/#findComment-597198026 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Order_66 Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 Never trust Microsoft with anything, they've indirectly admitted to snooping around in onedrive personal files, who knows what they do with telemetry or any other personal access they might have. simplezz 1 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1282584-windows-10-the-minimum-tweaking-of-privacy-settings/#findComment-597198084 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LimeMaster Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 8 hours ago, birdie said: None can fully protect you from privacy invasion features which are built in the OS and which are getting updated and "improved" with every service release. Abandon all hope, resistance is futile. Jokes aside - if you do value your privacy, install Windows 7/8.1 but do NOT install telemetry updates, i.e. set your automatic updates policy to "Notify, do not download or install". No point on suggesting that. Microsoft backported the telemetry stuff to both OSes mentioned through an update. Plus, the default settings of Windows 7 & 8 both have things that some would consider an invasion of their privacy. (e.g. CEIP, Windows Error Reporting, SmartScreen etc) Ian W and +Raze 2 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1282584-windows-10-the-minimum-tweaking-of-privacy-settings/#findComment-597198110 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dot Matrix Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 9 hours ago, birdie said: None can fully protect you from privacy invasion features which are built in the OS and which are getting updated and "improved" with every service release. Abandon all hope, resistance is futile. Jokes aside - if you do value your privacy, install Windows 7/8.1 but do NOT install telemetry updates, i.e. set your automatic updates policy to "Notify, do not download or install". Windows 7 and Windows 8 both have telemetry built in, even without those KBs. +Raze and Ian W 2 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1282584-windows-10-the-minimum-tweaking-of-privacy-settings/#findComment-597198134 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dot Matrix Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 9 hours ago, birdie said: You have nothing to hide, right? Then why do you keep the door of your toilet closed when you're taking a shat? Microsoft/Apple/Google/BigBro want more people like you - who are gullible enough to scream from every rooftop "There's nothing to worry about". Your tin foil hat must've fallen off. Here, I got you a new one... +Raze 1 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1282584-windows-10-the-minimum-tweaking-of-privacy-settings/#findComment-597198224 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Thom Vee Subscriber² Posted December 22, 2015 Subscriber² Share Posted December 22, 2015 Did any of you ever go through the Privacy Statement, which can be found in the settings of Microsoft apps? I found it answered a lot of questions. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1282584-windows-10-the-minimum-tweaking-of-privacy-settings/#findComment-597198256 Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplezz Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 9 hours ago, illegaloperation said: All these "privacy concerns" are overblown. Turn off advertising ID and that's about it. I'm really sick of this dismissive apologist stance. You might not care about your privacy, but others do. It's a slippery slope and will only get worse. Order_66 1 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1282584-windows-10-the-minimum-tweaking-of-privacy-settings/#findComment-597198330 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mockingbird Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 (edited) Am I safe to assume all your privacy concerned citizens use flip phones? After all, smartphones are privacy nightmares. __________________________________________________________________________ Windows 10 doesn't seems to be any more "scary" than, say, Android. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1282584-windows-10-the-minimum-tweaking-of-privacy-settings/#findComment-597198442 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerowen Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 54 minutes ago, illegaloperation said: Am I safe to assume all your privacy concerned citizens use flip phones? After all, smartphones are privacy nightmares. __________________________________________________________________________ Windows 10 doesn't seems to be any more "scary" than, say, Android. My wife got a new tablet for Christmas at her grandmother's house. We brought it home and it automatically connected to our wifi. Apparently Google stores wifi passwords/encryption keys, but when you add your Google account to an Android device there's no checkbox you can check to disable this feature, at least that I'm aware of. You can disable location features and things of that nature, but apparently if you choose to sync the device it doesn't just sync up your applications and their respective settings, it synchronizes your passwords too. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1282584-windows-10-the-minimum-tweaking-of-privacy-settings/#findComment-597198608 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dot Matrix Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 10 minutes ago, Gerowen said: My wife got a new tablet for Christmas at her grandmother's house. We brought it home and it automatically connected to our wifi. Apparently Google stores wifi passwords/encryption keys, but when you add your Google account to an Android device there's no checkbox you can check to disable this feature, at least that I'm aware of. You can disable location features and things of that nature, but apparently if you choose to sync the device it doesn't just sync up your applications and their respective settings, it synchronizes your passwords too. Windows 10 does this too. I was able to bring my new 950 home, and it automatically recognized my network. Honestly, I like this feature. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1282584-windows-10-the-minimum-tweaking-of-privacy-settings/#findComment-597198626 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerowen Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 Just now, Dot Matrix said: Windows 10 does this too. I was able to bring my new 950 home, and it automatically recognized my network. Honestly, I like this feature. For the sake of convenience it is nice, but on the other hand, it means that some 3rd party is collecting your encryption keys and password without explicitly asking for permission to do so. Would you give a copy of your post office box key or house keys to a 3rd party private corporation? I dono, maybe I'm just being weird, Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1282584-windows-10-the-minimum-tweaking-of-privacy-settings/#findComment-597198636 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dot Matrix Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 11 minutes ago, Gerowen said: For the sake of convenience it is nice, but on the other hand, it means that some 3rd party is collecting your encryption keys and password without explicitly asking for permission to do so. Would you give a copy of your post office box key or house keys to a 3rd party private corporation? I dono, maybe I'm just being weird, Microsoft really isn't third party... Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1282584-windows-10-the-minimum-tweaking-of-privacy-settings/#findComment-597198662 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerowen Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 Just now, Dot Matrix said: Microsoft really isn't third party... I guess in the case of Android, neither is Google, but it still bugs me somewhat. I guess I'll just have to learn to pay better attention and actually read about "what" gets synchronized in the future. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1282584-windows-10-the-minimum-tweaking-of-privacy-settings/#findComment-597198700 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian W Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 12 hours ago, illegaloperation said: All these "privacy concerns" are overblown. Turn off advertising ID and that's about it. Personally have the ID turned on. If I'm going to see ads—and I will—then I want to see those that are tailored toward my interests. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1282584-windows-10-the-minimum-tweaking-of-privacy-settings/#findComment-597198714 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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