DocM Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 (edited) JCSAT-14 commsat Customer: SKY Perfect JSAT, Japan Satellite bus: SSL (Loral) 1300 Satellite mass: ???? (usually 3-4.5 tonnes) Satellite status: delivered to KSC Launch date: NET mid April, 2016 Launch window: TBD Stage landing type: TBD Quote JCSAT-14 will replace and expand on the capacity of JCSAT-2A at the 154° East longitude orbital slot. The satellite is designed to provide service for broadcast, data networks, and internet connectivity for maritime and aviation for 15 years or longer. BetaguyGZT and Draggendrop 2 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1291928-falcon-9-jcsat-14-mission-thread/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draggendrop Veteran Posted March 15, 2016 Veteran Share Posted March 15, 2016 bits and bytes... BetaguyGZT 1 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1291928-falcon-9-jcsat-14-mission-thread/#findComment-597319966 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocM Posted March 15, 2016 Author Share Posted March 15, 2016 BetaguyGZT and Draggendrop 2 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1291928-falcon-9-jcsat-14-mission-thread/#findComment-597320622 Share on other sites More sharing options...
anthdci Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 If that's the size of a falcon s1 being transported, then there are going to be some issues transporting a 15m wide core. Draggendrop 1 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1291928-falcon-9-jcsat-14-mission-thread/#findComment-597320802 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocM Posted March 15, 2016 Author Share Posted March 15, 2016 (edited) BFR will be built near the launch site and/or a canal near an ocean so it can be barged to a coastal launch facility. The odds are this will be Brownsville, Texas, a major seaport, as Musk testified before the Texas Legislature that this was in the cards. Draggendrop, anthdci and BetaguyGZT 3 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1291928-falcon-9-jcsat-14-mission-thread/#findComment-597320880 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draggendrop Veteran Posted March 16, 2016 Veteran Share Posted March 16, 2016 That tweet puts the core size into perspective....it is highway huge.....I would assume permits required for large loads and time allotments for travelling? BetaguyGZT 1 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1291928-falcon-9-jcsat-14-mission-thread/#findComment-597321936 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocM Posted March 16, 2016 Author Share Posted March 16, 2016 Oh yeah. It's about as large as you can go without additional arrangements/costs, routing around overpasses etc. Routing is easy within Texas as they have a state software tool that automatically rerouts big loads for the carriers. Draggendrop and BetaguyGZT 2 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1291928-falcon-9-jcsat-14-mission-thread/#findComment-597322726 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocM Posted April 9, 2016 Author Share Posted April 9, 2016 NET April 28 Time: TBD Landing: ASDS OCISLY BetaguyGZT, Draggendrop and anthdci 3 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1291928-falcon-9-jcsat-14-mission-thread/#findComment-597359752 Share on other sites More sharing options...
anthdci Posted April 9, 2016 Share Posted April 9, 2016 On 09/04/2016 at 07:21, DocM said: NET April 28 Time: TBD Landing: ASDS OCISLY Expand woohoo, ill be in orlando then. I'll be reading about where to go to watch it. BetaguyGZT and Draggendrop 2 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1291928-falcon-9-jcsat-14-mission-thread/#findComment-597360098 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BetaguyGZT Posted April 10, 2016 Share Posted April 10, 2016 On 09/04/2016 at 18:20, anthdci said: woohoo, ill be in orlando then. I'll be reading about where to go to watch it. Expand Nice! You might be able to see the trail as it's launching, weather permitting. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1291928-falcon-9-jcsat-14-mission-thread/#findComment-597361228 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocM Posted April 16, 2016 Author Share Posted April 16, 2016 JCSAT-14 Falcon 9 on the road BetaguyGZT 1 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1291928-falcon-9-jcsat-14-mission-thread/#findComment-597369294 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+rdlenk Subscriber² Posted April 17, 2016 Subscriber² Share Posted April 17, 2016 If they could just light that thing up they would get to Florida a lot faster. BetaguyGZT 1 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1291928-falcon-9-jcsat-14-mission-thread/#findComment-597370316 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocM Posted April 17, 2016 Author Share Posted April 17, 2016 Might cause a few coronaries on the way, but yeah At KSC BetaguyGZT 1 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1291928-falcon-9-jcsat-14-mission-thread/#findComment-597370320 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+FloatingFatMan Subscriber¹ Posted April 18, 2016 Subscriber¹ Share Posted April 18, 2016 Imagine pulling up at McD's drive through window with that behind you... Draggendrop and BetaguyGZT 2 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1291928-falcon-9-jcsat-14-mission-thread/#findComment-597370502 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draggendrop Veteran Posted April 19, 2016 Veteran Share Posted April 19, 2016 /s with a bit of an accent......"I'll have a happy meal for launch"....... BetaguyGZT 1 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1291928-falcon-9-jcsat-14-mission-thread/#findComment-597371994 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocM Posted April 19, 2016 Author Share Posted April 19, 2016 Static fire: not public Launch date: April 28 Launch window: 0122-0322 EDT (0522-0722 GMT) BetaguyGZT 1 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1291928-falcon-9-jcsat-14-mission-thread/#findComment-597372142 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocM Posted April 19, 2016 Author Share Posted April 19, 2016 NSF reports, Static Fire: NET April 24 BetaguyGZT 1 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1291928-falcon-9-jcsat-14-mission-thread/#findComment-597372958 Share on other sites More sharing options...
anthdci Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 On 19/04/2016 at 04:47, DocM said: Launch window: 0122-0322 EDT (0522-0722 GMT) Expand urg, really?? 1.22am, I'll not be around then to watch it Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1291928-falcon-9-jcsat-14-mission-thread/#findComment-597373698 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draggendrop Veteran Posted April 20, 2016 Veteran Share Posted April 20, 2016 I have been hunting around to find the payload mass...and strangely....no public info from anyone. SSL, Sky Perfect JSAT, Via Satellite, Aerospace Technology, SpaceX, NSF non paywall, reddit, and multiple data banks, that I have checked, show no mass, yet has no issue showing mass for prior instances. Ford → Space Systems Loral (SSL): SSL-1300 Quote The 1300, a powerful, space-proven platform for a wide range of services, has been in constant evolutionary development to deliver increasingly greater power, communications capability, and longer useful life, keeping the company in the forefront of satellite technology. Total satellite power ranges from 5 to 12 kW continuously throughout the life of the spacecraft. On-board transmitter power – exceeding 5,000 RF watts – can accommodate as many as 70 active transponders. Launch mass tops out at approximately 5,500 kg. Standard satellites in the 1300 line will fit into a 4 meter launch-vehicle fairing. The size and capabilities of the 1300 can be expanded to generate and process more power, and accommodate larger, more powerful payloads. In total, these changes can provide up to 40 percent more capacity than available in the basic model, ideal for any of today's demanding multi-band and spot-beam payloads. The expanded models feature total satellite power that ranges from 12 to 18 kW throughout the life of the spacecraft, and on-board transmitter power – approaching 10,000 RF watts – that can accommodate as many as 90 active transponders. Launch mass of the largest version tops out at approximately 6,700 kg. This version was earlier called 1300S. With all of their features and power, satellites in the 1300 line will fit into a 5-meter launch-vehicle fairing. Loral does not use (anymore?) the sometimes reported designators for sub-versions like 1300E, 1300HL, 1300S, 1300X. Expand and Quote Following failures of SSL-1300 models have occured: EchoStar 5: one momentum wheel failed, thruster problems - potential shorting of lifetime EchoStar 6: 2001 - partial thruster failure - performance loss. GOES 9: 1998 - momentum wheel failure - total loss PAS 6: 2004 - power failure - total loss PAS 7: 2001 - 25% power loss - no service loss Telstar 6: 2001 - control processor failure - no service loss Telstar 7 (Intelsat Americas 7): electrical-distribution system failed on 28. November 2004. Contact was regained a few days later, with 22 transponders returning to operation. Telstar 14 / Estrela do Sul 1: 2004 - solar wing deployment of one wing only partial - performance loss Telstar 14R / Estrela do Sul 2: 2011 - solar wing deployment of one wing only partial - performance loss Tempo 2 (DirecTV 6) 1997 - solarflare damaged 3 transponders and one solar array, occasional power outage - no performance loss Expand http://space.skyrocket.de/doc_sat/ssloral-1300.htm from the prior launches of this platform, the mass ranges from 3700 kg to 4700 kg. The contract to build this payload was issued before the F9 became the full thrust version. The transponders are not maxed out, they have allotted 44 out of 70 and 10 kW EOL. Launch is for a transfer orbit (GTO-?, no mention) After launch conference (CRS-8), It was stated that the next 2 launches would be ASDS, "hot and fast" So far, I have not heard of any special flight accommodations being made for this launch..... // With the above data, unless I missed something, it would appear....ASDS landing, enough fuel for 1 or 3 engine landing depending on velocity and what SpaceX would like to test next. I will "guess" a little bit of a "punch" for better sat placement ( not as much as the last SES) and a 3 engine "slam test"....any thought's ? BetaguyGZT 1 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1291928-falcon-9-jcsat-14-mission-thread/#findComment-597374034 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocM Posted April 20, 2016 Author Share Posted April 20, 2016 I see a guesstimate of 3,400 kg dry, which probably puts it close to 4,400+ kg wet, but that number may be off. BetaguyGZT and Draggendrop 2 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1291928-falcon-9-jcsat-14-mission-thread/#findComment-597374066 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BetaguyGZT Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 I'm a bit leery about the "hot and fast" ASDS landings. We know what happened last time one of those was attempted ... damage to the ASDS will slow down the launch cadence for the rest of the Spring. I'd really like to see three more ASDS's put into service (Pacific, Atlantic and Gulf) to have some redundant capability. Draggendrop 1 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1291928-falcon-9-jcsat-14-mission-thread/#findComment-597375426 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocM Posted April 21, 2016 Author Share Posted April 21, 2016 Why the 3 engine landing burn failed is known. BetaguyGZT and Draggendrop 2 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1291928-falcon-9-jcsat-14-mission-thread/#findComment-597375534 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocM Posted April 21, 2016 Author Share Posted April 21, 2016 Small slip Launch date: May 3 Launch window: 0122-0322 EDT (0522-0722 GMT) Draggendrop 1 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1291928-falcon-9-jcsat-14-mission-thread/#findComment-597375576 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim K Global Moderator Posted April 21, 2016 Global Moderator Share Posted April 21, 2016 On 21/04/2016 at 02:17, DocM said: Small slip Launch date: May 3 Launch window: 0122-0322 EDT (0522-0722 GMT) Expand Bummer. Wish they would have "slipped" the liftoff time to a bit later. Draggendrop 1 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1291928-falcon-9-jcsat-14-mission-thread/#findComment-597375584 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draggendrop Veteran Posted April 21, 2016 Veteran Share Posted April 21, 2016 /s Minor slip, it gives us 6 more days to stock up on launch treats. BetaguyGZT and Jim K 2 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1291928-falcon-9-jcsat-14-mission-thread/#findComment-597375644 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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