DocM Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 (edited) NSF report, supplemented https://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2016/10/spacex-prepares-upcoming-falcon-9-amos-6/ Satellite bus: Space Systems/Loral SSL-1300 Band: Ku Mass: ???? (up to 6,700 kg) Position: 45° Coverage: Brazil Estimated life: 15 years Launch pad: LC-39A Launch date,: TBD Launch T-0: 2330 Eastern (estimated) Emn1ty, Draggendrop and BetaguyGZT 3 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1312790-falcon-9-echostar-23-mission-thread/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
BetaguyGZT Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 Oooh, a heavy bird, eh? Good one for Falcon-9 to push uphill. I assume this will not be an ASDS landing? Draggendrop 1 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1312790-falcon-9-echostar-23-mission-thread/#findComment-597650282 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocM Posted October 31, 2016 Author Share Posted October 31, 2016 (edited) Dunno. If it is that makes a helluva statement. BetaguyGZT 1 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1312790-falcon-9-echostar-23-mission-thread/#findComment-597650290 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BetaguyGZT Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 They might try for it anyway. Another "hot landing" with hoverslam just to prove that they can. DocM 1 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1312790-falcon-9-echostar-23-mission-thread/#findComment-597650294 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocM Posted November 20, 2016 Author Share Posted November 20, 2016 The Echostar-23 S1 and S2 are on the test stands at McGregor, and likely batting #2 behind Iridium NEXT #1. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1312790-falcon-9-echostar-23-mission-thread/#findComment-597675688 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocM Posted November 25, 2016 Author Share Posted November 25, 2016 NET January 8 or January 9, evening launch because it's to geo. Iridium NEXT #1 will go first from Vandenberg. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1312790-falcon-9-echostar-23-mission-thread/#findComment-597680810 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocM Posted December 2, 2016 Author Share Posted December 2, 2016 Peek a Boo Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1312790-falcon-9-echostar-23-mission-thread/#findComment-597688492 Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloatingFatMan Posted December 2, 2016 Share Posted December 2, 2016 ^ Content unavailable... Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1312790-falcon-9-echostar-23-mission-thread/#findComment-597689156 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocM Posted December 2, 2016 Author Share Posted December 2, 2016 24 minutes ago, FloatingFatMan said: ^ Content unavailable... Must have been made private. Anyhow, the first stage is on the road. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1312790-falcon-9-echostar-23-mission-thread/#findComment-597689188 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocM Posted December 27, 2016 Author Share Posted December 27, 2016 (edited) NSF reprtss, Moved to NET January 15 at 23:50 Local (Eastern) Iridium NEXT still first. Pending FAA finalizing the AMOS-6 report review. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1312790-falcon-9-echostar-23-mission-thread/#findComment-597717126 Share on other sites More sharing options...
anthdci Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 looks like they'll be launching a lot in a short space of time to ease the backlog then. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1312790-falcon-9-echostar-23-mission-thread/#findComment-597717142 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocM Posted December 27, 2016 Author Share Posted December 27, 2016 (edited) CRS-10 can't fly until Jan 22 as it's berthing at Harmony nadir, which until Jan 20 is housing HTV-6. February 2 another Progress arrives and they'll be busy with that, so mid February maybe. That said, there's plenty to do from Vandenberg. It looks like they picked up an 8th Iridium NEXT launch since Russia killed the Dnepr launcher which was to fly that flock. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1312790-falcon-9-echostar-23-mission-thread/#findComment-597717204 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draggendrop Veteran Posted January 17, 2017 Veteran Share Posted January 17, 2017 Hopefully we will hear about fit checks this week at 39A... The last NET that I have seen for this launch, is the 26th of January...which I assume will change due to the setup for first launch from 39A and whatever gremlins appear..... I require another quick launch to "get my fix".... DocM and BetaguyGZT 2 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1312790-falcon-9-echostar-23-mission-thread/#findComment-597747904 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draggendrop Veteran Posted January 17, 2017 Veteran Share Posted January 17, 2017 A rumor...not verified, has a possible static fire on Saturday.....KSC employee conversation...still rumor... BetaguyGZT 1 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1312790-falcon-9-echostar-23-mission-thread/#findComment-597747982 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocM Posted January 17, 2017 Author Share Posted January 17, 2017 (edited) That came from a KSC'er who got it from someone working on LC-39B. Those folks would need to bug out for an LC-39A static fire, so it could be credible. Let's get a run 'n gun started BetaguyGZT 1 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1312790-falcon-9-echostar-23-mission-thread/#findComment-597748074 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BetaguyGZT Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 There still could be gremlins, a lot of work has been done there. And remember they're using a pad below the "classic 39-A", and there's been a hell of a lot of retro fitting to make it work. There's technically two pads there now, a smaller one for Falcon 9 and FH and then the big one a couple hundred feet or so away up on the "Main Pad" (where the Shuttles and Apollo/Saturn would launch from). A lot to check out and declare fit for purpose, and the chances of launching on the penciled-in date aren't completely certain yet. ITS will use the big pad, when it's ready to be used and when Dragon 2 is ready to fly. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1312790-falcon-9-echostar-23-mission-thread/#findComment-597748916 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draggendrop Veteran Posted January 19, 2017 Veteran Share Posted January 19, 2017 Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1312790-falcon-9-echostar-23-mission-thread/#findComment-597750958 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BetaguyGZT Posted January 19, 2017 Share Posted January 19, 2017 (edited) Okay, this picture gives the layout better. The new digs are right on the old pad. Heh. I stand corrected. I thought there were two pads, one alongside the old 39-A. [EDIT] Holy crap they're close to the pad. Are they too close for ITS to launch from there? Draggendrop 1 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1312790-falcon-9-echostar-23-mission-thread/#findComment-597750986 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocM Posted January 19, 2017 Author Share Posted January 19, 2017 (edited) Nope, and it's further than it looks due to foreshortening. The hangar at LC-40 was unscathed by the AMOS-6 conflagration. Edited January 19, 2017 by DocM Draggendrop and BetaguyGZT 2 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1312790-falcon-9-echostar-23-mission-thread/#findComment-597751144 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocM Posted January 19, 2017 Author Share Posted January 19, 2017 (edited) Another point, Placing an x*1 larger rocket at the pad does not mean a proportional increase in overpressure at the target in question. ISTM, The propogation of a detonation is spherical, which spreads the energy out. Point or spherical charge detonation propogates by the cube root of the distance, which also applies to linear or cylindrical charges at a long distance (which reduces their angular size to more point-like.) Closer to a linear/cylindrical charge you'd apply the square root of the distance. The propogated energy for a rocket will be less because it's a conflagration, not a detonation. The pressure wave has a longer rise time and duration, which minimizes the effect. The only detonation involved would be a linear shaped charge used as a Flight Termination System - to open the tanks. Net: a large rocket like ITS may release the energy of a 3-5 kiloton tactical nuke, but at 3-4 miles the pressure wave may only break windows and rattle nerves. Edited January 19, 2017 by DocM Draggendrop 1 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1312790-falcon-9-echostar-23-mission-thread/#findComment-597751192 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BetaguyGZT Posted January 19, 2017 Share Posted January 19, 2017 I was thinking more of the acoustic energy being generated by ITS at t+3~12, when those energies will be at their maximums upon anything in the immediate vicinity. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1312790-falcon-9-echostar-23-mission-thread/#findComment-597752494 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocM Posted January 19, 2017 Author Share Posted January 19, 2017 More & bigger rainbirds, maybe a semicircular berm between the pad and civilization. BetaguyGZT 1 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1312790-falcon-9-echostar-23-mission-thread/#findComment-597752512 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocM Posted January 20, 2017 Author Share Posted January 20, 2017 Media Contact: John Taylor Media@SpaceX.com 310.363.6703 HAWTHORNE, Calif. – Jan. 19, 2017. Media accreditation is now open for SpaceX’s first launch from Launch Complex 39A (LC-39A) at Kennedy Space Center in Florida. The launch is targeted for no earlier than Jan. 30. Pre-launch media activities are currently targeted for no earlier than Jan. 29. SpaceX’s Falcon 9 rocket will deliver a commercial satellite to a Geostationary Transfer Orbit (GTO). Members of the media who are U.S. citizens or Permanent Resident Aliens (green card holders) and interested in covering the launch must fill out the media accreditation request form by 5:00 p.m. EST, on Monday, Jan. 23. Requesting accreditation is not required of media who hold current annual press credentials issued by Kennedy Space Center, but it is appreciated for planning purposes. For launches from LC-39A, Kennedy Space Center decides which media are credentialed to cover launches, not SpaceX. Please keep in mind, simply making the request in a timely fashion does not guarantee the request will be granted. Please be sure to provide all the information included on the SpaceX form. SpaceX typically obtains confirmation that these requests are approved about 48 hours prior to launch. More details on the mission, the customer and pre-launch activities will be made available at a later date closer to launch. BetaguyGZT 1 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1312790-falcon-9-echostar-23-mission-thread/#findComment-597753392 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draggendrop Veteran Posted January 21, 2017 Veteran Share Posted January 21, 2017 I will feel a lot better with a good static fire to signal that "most" gremlins have been spotted. BetaguyGZT 1 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1312790-falcon-9-echostar-23-mission-thread/#findComment-597754558 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocM Posted January 22, 2017 Author Share Posted January 22, 2017 (edited) George @gdoehne @elonmusk Next SpaceX flight (Echostar) has v heavy GTO payload (5500kg)Will Falcon fly expendable, or try low-margin droneship landing? Elon Musk @elonmusk@gdoehne Expendable. Future flights will go on Falcon Heavy or the upgraded Falcon 9. George @gdoehne @elonmusk When you say upgraded Falcon 9 are you referring to the Block 5 you mentioned here? Timing fits. Elon Musk @elonmuskYes. Block 5 is the final upgrade of the Falcon architecture. Significantly improves performance & ease of reusability. Flies end of year. Once Block 5 R&D is done ITS becomes the focus. Production in the Seattle area, Hawthorne, and somewhere(s) along the Gulf of Mexico. BetaguyGZT and Draggendrop 2 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1312790-falcon-9-echostar-23-mission-thread/#findComment-597755590 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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