Elliot B. Posted November 27, 2016 Share Posted November 27, 2016 I want to play Amplitude again but before I buy a pre-owned PlayStation 2, will it look better if I buy a PlayStation 3 instead? I will be playing on a I have a 4K TV. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1315012-will-amplitude-2003-ps2-game-look-better-when-played-on-a-playstation-3/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vandalsquad Posted November 28, 2016 Share Posted November 28, 2016 Will look no different, and will have to buy an expensive launch 60GB to play PS2 games which are highly prone to YLOD failure. Just get a cheap PS2, and hopefully one day Sony stop being asses and allow PS1/PS2 emulation on PS4 and future consoles. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1315012-will-amplitude-2003-ps2-game-look-better-when-played-on-a-playstation-3/#findComment-597683882 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose_49 Posted November 28, 2016 Share Posted November 28, 2016 You could try using a PS2 emulator with a relatively good computer, so you can sample it a higher resolutions: http://pcsx2.net/ Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1315012-will-amplitude-2003-ps2-game-look-better-when-played-on-a-playstation-3/#findComment-597683884 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrunknMunky Veteran Posted November 28, 2016 Veteran Share Posted November 28, 2016 17 hours ago, Elliot B. said: I want to play Amplitude again but before I buy a pre-owned PlayStation 2, will it look better if I buy a PlayStation 3 instead? I will be playing on a I have a 4K TV. It would be cheaper to buy a PS2, as BC was only included in three PS3 US launch models and 1 PAL model. All of which are pretty rare and expensive at this stage. The PAL model only uses software compatibility and lacks the Emotion Engine h/ware. Games can look different and better in some cases (subject to how you like games to look), with software settings on the BC PS3, but it's not worlds apart from the native PS2. IIRC, the options are between up scaling, up scaling and smoothing or progressive scan. This video gives you a quick idea what to expect, but every game is different. Note this person is using the PAL PS3 with software BC and experiences crashing, which is more common on the PAL console than the NTSC console with the included EE. Amplitude has no reported issues on either the EE or software BC PS3. Progressive scan was also supported by quite a lot of PS2 games natively on the PS2 h/ware. To activate it press Triangle and Cross (X) at the PS2 logo during the game's boot up sequence. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1315012-will-amplitude-2003-ps2-game-look-better-when-played-on-a-playstation-3/#findComment-597684096 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MightyJordan Posted November 28, 2016 Share Posted November 28, 2016 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Andrew said: It would be cheaper to buy a PS2, as BC was only included in three PS3 US launch models. All of which are pretty rare and expensive at this stage, with two including the EE and one using software emulation. They did release one backwards compatible model over here, too; I've got one of them (CECHC04). Only software emulation over here, though. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1315012-will-amplitude-2003-ps2-game-look-better-when-played-on-a-playstation-3/#findComment-597684108 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrunknMunky Veteran Posted November 28, 2016 Veteran Share Posted November 28, 2016 Just now, MightyJordan said: They did release one backwards compatible model over here, too; I've got one of them (CECHC04). Only software emulation over here, though. Yeah just updated my post cause I forgot Elliot was in UK. Only the original 60 GB PAL has BC. I have one too and it's still going strong Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1315012-will-amplitude-2003-ps2-game-look-better-when-played-on-a-playstation-3/#findComment-597684110 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MightyJordan Posted November 28, 2016 Share Posted November 28, 2016 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Andrew said: Yeah just updated my post cause I forgot Elliot was in UK. Only the original 60 GB PAL has BC. I have one too and it's still going strong Yeah, I've still got one, too, but mine's a refurbished one. Like@Vandalsquadsaid, the originals were more prone to the YLOD, and I fell victim to it about five years ago, but Sony's support was top notch back then; a bit pricey at around £100, but I got a new one the next day, and they even gave me the choice of an original fat one with BC again or a slim one. If only their support for the PS Vita was as good; the screen's gone on mine, I rang up a few months ago to get the price for repairing it, and it was about £130, more than a PS4 repair. Vandalsquad 1 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1315012-will-amplitude-2003-ps2-game-look-better-when-played-on-a-playstation-3/#findComment-597684116 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danielx64 Posted November 28, 2016 Share Posted November 28, 2016 7 hours ago, Vandalsquad said: and will have to buy an expensive launch 60GB to play PS2 games which are highly prone to YLOD failure. What do you mean by this? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1315012-will-amplitude-2003-ps2-game-look-better-when-played-on-a-playstation-3/#findComment-597684118 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrunknMunky Veteran Posted November 28, 2016 Veteran Share Posted November 28, 2016 10 minutes ago, MightyJordan said: Yeah, I've still got one, too, but mine's a refurbished one. Like@Vandalsquadsaid, the originals were more prone to the YLOD, and I fell victim to it about five years ago, but Sony's support was top notch back then; a bit pricey at around £100, but I got a new one the next day, and they even gave me the choice of an original fat one with BC again or a slim one. If only their support for the PS Vita was as good; the screen's gone on mine, I rang up a few months ago to get the price for repairing it, and it was about £130, more than a PS4 repair. I bought my 3G Vita bundle new for less than that You can replace it for £30 with a DIY job. Sadly the PS2's aren't without their own hardware issues, so it's not without risk buying an even older console than the BC PS3. 7 minutes ago, Danielx64 said: What do you mean by this? The original PS3 consoles suffered from what is called the "Yellow light of death", named after the blinking yellow LED on the console when a hardware failure occurs, usually overheating. Think RROD if you had an original 360, BSOD on PC etc. Vandalsquad 1 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1315012-will-amplitude-2003-ps2-game-look-better-when-played-on-a-playstation-3/#findComment-597684124 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick H. Supervisor Posted November 28, 2016 Supervisor Share Posted November 28, 2016 7 minutes ago, Danielx64 said: What do you mean by this? If he wanted to play the game on a PS3, he would need to get the expensive 60GB model that offered backwards compatibility. However, those models are apparently prone to the YLOD (Yellow Light Of Death.) He also wouldn't notice a difference between if he played it on the PS3, or if he just bought a cheap PS2 and played it on that. Vandalsquad 1 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1315012-will-amplitude-2003-ps2-game-look-better-when-played-on-a-playstation-3/#findComment-597684132 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MightyJordan Posted November 28, 2016 Share Posted November 28, 2016 1 minute ago, Andrew said: I bought my 3G Vita bundle new for less than that You can replace it for £30 with a DIY job. Sadly the PS2's aren't without their own hardware issues, so it's not without risk buying an even older console than the BC PS3. I don't know why I didn't even think of going down the DIY route; I was thinking of just buying a second-hand replacement for around £70. Wouldn't be the first time working on a handheld; I replaced the analog stick on my brother's PSP before (it didn't last long, though). Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1315012-will-amplitude-2003-ps2-game-look-better-when-played-on-a-playstation-3/#findComment-597684134 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danielx64 Posted November 28, 2016 Share Posted November 28, 2016 5 minutes ago, Andrew said: The original PS3 consoles suffered from what is called the "Yellow light of death", named after the blinking yellow LED on the console when a hardware failure occurs, usually overheating. Think RROD if you had an original 360, BSOD on PC etc. That make scense thank you 3 minutes ago, Nick H. said: If he wanted to play the game on a PS3, he would need to get the expensive 60GB model that offered backwards compatibility. I wasn't even aware of that - I play on PlayStation before but never owned one Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1315012-will-amplitude-2003-ps2-game-look-better-when-played-on-a-playstation-3/#findComment-597684140 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elliot B. Posted November 28, 2016 Author Share Posted November 28, 2016 I have emulated the game using PCSX2 but even though I have a powerful PC (i7-6700K, GTX 1080), there seemed to be the slightest bit of latency (probably 10-20ms) when pressing buttons, which makes rhythm games impossible to play well. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1315012-will-amplitude-2003-ps2-game-look-better-when-played-on-a-playstation-3/#findComment-597684146 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrunknMunky Veteran Posted November 28, 2016 Veteran Share Posted November 28, 2016 12 minutes ago, Elliot B. said: I have emulated the game using PCSX2 but even though I have a powerful PC (i7-6700K, GTX 1080), there seemed to be the slightest bit of latency (probably 10-20ms) when pressing buttons, which makes rhythm games impossible to play well. CeX sell fat PS2's for £30 if you want a lag free experience Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1315012-will-amplitude-2003-ps2-game-look-better-when-played-on-a-playstation-3/#findComment-597684158 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vandalsquad Posted November 28, 2016 Share Posted November 28, 2016 28 minutes ago, MightyJordan said: Yeah, I've still got one, too, but mine's a refurbished one. Like@Vandalsquadsaid, the originals were more prone to the YLOD, and I fell victim to it about five years ago, but Sony's support was top notch back then; a bit pricey at around £100, but I got a new one the next day, and they even gave me the choice of an original fat one with BC again or a slim one. If only their support for the PS Vita was as good; the screen's gone on mine, I rang up a few months ago to get the price for repairing it, and it was about £130, more than a PS4 repair. Has your PS3 that's been repaired faulted again? I've heard stories about the issue coming back up and still haven't got mine fixed, after shelling out $1,000 for a console and then Sony asking for $250 to repair it after a year and half I invested my money into the 360 instead. I still own the console, think it's still got game stuck in it from 9 years ago and original firmware from then But wouldn't mind condensing amount of consoles being used to play the classics and may get it repaired if it stays repaired. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1315012-will-amplitude-2003-ps2-game-look-better-when-played-on-a-playstation-3/#findComment-597684160 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elliot B. Posted November 28, 2016 Author Share Posted November 28, 2016 Just now, Andrew said: CeX sell fat PS2's for £30 if you want a lag free experience The game sells for (starting at) £15+ on eBay these days and that will increase as the years go by! Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1315012-will-amplitude-2003-ps2-game-look-better-when-played-on-a-playstation-3/#findComment-597684162 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MightyJordan Posted November 28, 2016 Share Posted November 28, 2016 13 minutes ago, Vandalsquad said: Has your PS3 that's been repaired faulted again? I've heard stories about the issue coming back up and still haven't got mine fixed, after shelling out $1,000 for a console and then Sony asking for $250 to repair it after a year and half I invested my money into the 360 instead. I still own the console, think it's still got game stuck in it from 9 years ago and original firmware from then But wouldn't mind condensing amount of consoles being used to play the classics and may get it repaired if it stays repaired. Nope, my replacement's been faultless. Even better, it's quieter than my original one; the fan would get ridiculously loud (almost to original 360 playing from a disc levels) on newer games at the time, like Demon's Souls. Vandalsquad 1 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1315012-will-amplitude-2003-ps2-game-look-better-when-played-on-a-playstation-3/#findComment-597684182 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vandalsquad Posted November 29, 2016 Share Posted November 29, 2016 11 hours ago, MightyJordan said: Nope, my replacement's been faultless. Even better, it's quieter than my original one; the fan would get ridiculously loud (almost to original 360 playing from a disc levels) on newer games at the time, like Demon's Souls. Thanks mate, will look into getting it repaired then Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1315012-will-amplitude-2003-ps2-game-look-better-when-played-on-a-playstation-3/#findComment-597684876 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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