Windows 10 Is The Worst OS Ever Created.

[Mando]

1 minute ago, HelgenX said:

Thank you for this tool, I mean I did say I won't install Windows 10 again, but just in case maybe something happened during the download miraculously in a ###### way in the form of a trojan during the direct download from Microsoft's server, it'd be nice to have a source like this.

your welcome.  

 

Im using that exact tool to download W7 ultimate iso atm for a vm test for another forum user, they are trustworthy and legit. It sounds as if the iso your using or something else is injecting the malware tbh mate. MS ISOs are clean. Same with the 10 isos it supplies they come direct form MS. Ill also grab the W10 iso and run it through Websense for you to verify 100% its clean.

 

 

[HelgenX]

I'm going to use a combination of links from you all and completely format the partition on my Mac's drive and try it again, just in case they come back even though it is running fine now, but in a few days (have a ######## headache!) But if it happens again... I'll be back to complain more!!!

 

Seriously though, thanks to those who put serious input. I may actually record video of the installation process the next time I do it, but it seems even video proof these days seems "fake." This thread can be closed for now.

[HawkMan]

6 minutes ago, HelgenX said:

And by the way, I have fixed all the problems, but it took hours of work on a new installation and that is simply ridiculous. Actually, I should have mentioned that this was an upgrade from Windows 7 done entirely through Microsoft's portal and update service on a clean Windows 7 install!

Bootcamp Assistant, I have already stated this multiple times. It doesn't even matter because it was still done through Microsofts server. Nonetheless, I've also stated that I've did it through Windows update too and same problem previously.

None of the info about bootcamp assistant says it will download ANYTHING for you. in fact it specifically says you need to provide your own windows ISO. it just does all the work of partitioning and setting up boot settings and that stuff. so if your bootcamp assistant oes any downloading, it's probably not "the" bootcamp assistant"

[Mando]

26 minutes ago, HelgenX said:

Holy mother of god. 2 hours later I could get to this webpage. I have no ######## clue what is going on, but I had tons of trojans, spyware, some ###### called netutils (adwcleaner is not removing it, keeps coming back,) I had a web browser hijacker and tons of popups, and I didn't even get to install anything yet, they just installed on their own. I only needed Windows 10 for some audio programs, but how am I to trust it if it's installing all this crazy stuff after a fresh install on it's own!?

 

Also, Windows Defender was disabled on it's own and I couldn't enable it because somehow it was disabled in the registry and gpedit couldn't open (was also disabled,) local policies disabled. I managed to remove the reg key and enable defender, but I'm still having a lot of problems at this very moment. I must ave used adwcleaner and restarted about 10 times so far. This is ridiculous.

thats a compromised ISO.  explains why defenders goosed and after initial boot its already compromised.

[HawkMan]

4 minutes ago, HelgenX said:

Thank you for this tool, I mean I did say I won't install Windows 10 again, but just in case maybe something happened during the download miraculously in a ###### way in the form of a trojan during the direct download from Microsoft's server, it'd be nice to have a source like this.

Yeah, I meant regular format, don't need to be so literal. And yeah, of course I had to format the USB every single time I installed an OS to it, was always using Rufus to do so that I can have the proper bootloader every time on that drive.

 

Wait... what? "installed the OS to it" ?  are you now saying you're installing the OS onto a USB drive ? 

 

and why are you using rufus if you're using bootcamp assistant that does all that for you automagically. 

and why are you ignoring all the information about non windows related things that could be the issue, in fact the only things that could be the issue (rootkits, USB infection DNS infection(though unlikely for this attack as it shouldn't infect edge this way) ? .

 

combined with you listing impossible infection scenarios on Edge... I'm starting to have serious doubts and questions about this whole potentially FUD scenario you're building.  or well.. more than I already had..

[HelgenX]

1 minute ago, HawkMan said:

None of the info about bootcamp assistant says it will download ANYTHING for you. in fact it specifically says you need to provide your own windows ISO. it just does all the work of partitioning and setting up boot settings and that stuff. so if your bootcamp assistant oes any downloading, it's probably not "the" bootcamp assistant"

Yeah sorry, since I'm in a kind of rage/anxiety mode, I meant to say I did the Windows upgrade from within my Windows 7 install on the mac SSD partition. In Bootcamp, I had to download the Windows driver files.

[Riggers]

Sorry but MacOS Sierra or any other version of Mac has anything built in that allows you to download windows 10 ISO except for doing it through the browser, then you would just get the latest ISO -> Windows 10 Build 1607 and it would have a hash like one of these:

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English International:

Win10_1607_EnglishInternational_x64
4,139,000 KB
MD5: 57532598fd918fec63b287ea4228515e
SHA1: 47d274a604e38b8b80b47630beaa8ffcc7d2980d
SHA256: 4e874b0df4319b20b5759b05a2a337407a29e1d5b40e3b494b299c18cc35dcac

 

Win10_1607_Education_N_EnglishInternational_x64
3,630,350 KB
MD5: 81b4a6b5bf5601915e8f63ef76d58c12
SHA1: 6faf71e710bc7670e55cb95a32fd9787ccec2047
SHA256: 6fd6db7d931d115ab6f09523be3d6b1f755cddb6ea6a9cb913e94203002a2ac5

 

Win10_1607_SingleLang_EnglishInternational_x64
4,042,908 KB
MD5: c388062598df063f1f53ef76ef2f4176
SHA1: 1509582865d312704fc3bdaef84db0b9ad3de47a
SHA256: d62ebd44cdc7d8640dbe5235293afc5d0ecef4f9813c406dd118fcdb090f5293

 

Win10_1607_Education_EnglishInternational_x64
3,815,120 KB
MD5: b82308b2830bff9051531a1b92696773
SHA1: 816da69e56cae815a228447317c3694975da74b5
SHA256: 2a81a9e24f983b0c8addfcb672d60da9a8f5658802ef9704349b3490af4a8a63

 

Win10_1607_Education_N_EnglishInternational_x64
3,630,350 KB
MD5: 398c897e272ec3129045341467b061ee
SHA1: 725e64ac5d729f0d3e6b74c29b444219ac13ac2a
SHA256: b3dfaabb0ac65d48719d929a839e145c25d11f10ce96161077cedef0e92c85fd

 

The English US .isos are:

 

Win10_1607_English_x64
4,277,722 KB
MD5: 88b98698600511dcd69596df92b242e5
SHA1: 99fd8082a609997ae97a514dca22becf20420891
SHA256: a01d0ce50c4c91964dfae08a5590a1d8e2a445cd80bb26eea4fee0f90198231a

 

Win10_1607_N_English_x64
3,637,854 KB
MD5: ba94bfd1c2bffcc61abaa4f6e7a0f9db
SHA1: 8e21b5ec1c2a0955f55ac6e0c77aa9634d832570
SHA256: 07d3cebfb936074f9fabb05a08444c38a6a1c448bdbf8e01b909d23e1692a9d2

 

Win10_1607_SingleLang_English_x64
4,192,718 KB
MD5: 566354bc12d351693db22d830baa764e
SHA1: 1b96a03bb876798b5c0d5ed216f8932de7b9567e
SHA256: 06f760d1646fe39a38bf9d008a877bcc683a28406a33c58087f8dd9ecfef44b3

 

Win10_1607_Education_English_x64
3,815,356 KB
MD5: ab8d50ce9f14d8045934bca6f7344524
SHA1: eee7c0e49c71533883b205dcae0c82c75cd4b4ad
SHA256: 482d27f1051fb7c88b625d918464eeaf481c20e241062d9010b0212b5d4c133d

 

Win10_1607_Education_N_English_x64
3,637,854 KB
MD5: 023b184d6b63a5be15699291509d36e2
SHA1: 0ee83f4f049cdf84545bba65b96002bbde6bfdcf
SHA256: 9bf555cf5ff9cd13cc4950a6e4e2f4ca3ab92b9ac9901f3b3d6d911e94ba0f1f

Just like this:

[satukoro]

This is the absolute best thread I've read in a while.

[+Warwagon MVC]

16 minutes ago, HelgenX said:

 I mean I did say I won't install Windows 10 again

 

 

 

 

 

I want to make sure that you understand that this entire situation was NOT the fault of Windows 10. You understand this right? Your statement above kind of feels like you still blame windows 10 for all of this.

[Mando]

im installing via ISO from that downloader to a VM just now, clean as a whistle btw. 

 

security scanning it atm with an online scanner, ill post my results.

 

 

 

 

Edited January 24, 2017 by Mando

[T3X4S]

Now I know how to get my threads to have so many posts - make a stupid title !

 

[+Warwagon MVC]

4 hours ago, T3X4S said:

Now I know how to get my threads to have so many posts - make a stupid title !

 

 

 

 

Really? You just now realized that? i've been doing that for years!  

 

My best one being "Java! Uninstall It, Update it, or bend over and grab the ketchup!" ... I think it had something like 15,000 views.

[ndoggfromhell]

I honestly thought this was a troll thread.  I've installed Windows 10 on about 30 devices over the last couple of months and none of them have exhibited behavior like OP is having. 

[trek]

If he was actually using a Mac to download the W10 ISO, all one has to do is go to https://www.microsoft.com/software-download/windows10 in a Mac browser and it will spit out direct links to the ISO...

[Boo Berry]

This thread is the worst thread ever created.

 

But yeah, moral of the story is to avoid downloading Windows through torrents and go through Microsoft's website.

[zeke009]

8 minutes ago, Boo Berry said:

 But yeah, moral of the story is to avoid downloading Windows through torrents and go through Microsoft's website.

I agree.

 

I'm also posting this from a Mac w/ Windows 10 in bootcamp. One of many problem free installations as ISO's were downloaded straight from MS, never a torrent site or any other method.

[Mando]

ok ive just done a full deepscan of the VM i created from the Microsoft ISO i downloaded via the tool i linked and of Win 7, clean as a whistle. Win 10 is the same.

 

 

I wager a case of beer your ISO was "dirty" to begin with (aka tampered with rootkits/malware, then converted back to an ISO) and put up as a torrent, its so common these days.

 

One of the main reasons i avoid torrents for pretty much anything these days, you get nothing for nothing in this world.

 

It would also explain why defender was nobbled and couldnt do anything about malware that was baked into the source, it was planted before any protection had a chance to gain a baseline. 

 

The MS ones are cleaner than a nuns habit  and btw Rufus is not advisable for making windows 10 install media, use Microsofts Media toolkit to download and inplace upgrade. 

Edited January 24, 2017 by Mando

[Nas]

12 hours ago, HelgenX said:

I have downloaded Windows 10 from torrents (beta, was fine at that time), official site, from Bootcamp official with official serial numbers ETC, and every single time I've installed it, it has given me viruses, spyware, ram and CPU hijacking apps, apps stuck in Windows folders, apps in temp folders ETC, spyware and viruses! Right on a new installation! As soon as I connected to the internet, it gave me those problems. This is probably, what, the 6th time this has happened on 3 different computers and done from fresh drives. What the hell is going on!?

 

I could have saved more screenshots if I could have ACTUALLY USED my system after 3 hours of removing software each time. This is immediately after a Windows 10 download from MacOS Windows 10 utility download, but I've gotten viruses with every other possible W10 distro there is and my drives were clean as a whistle before or were just brand new drives. ONLY with Windows 10.

 

 

I've read this entire thread (all 7 pages) and I call bull on everything the OP said -- so it's clearly PEBKAC yet all of the support advice is spot-on.

 

Why?  Microsoft Windows 10 does NOT install "chrome (sans publisher)" or "Boot Camp Manager (with Apple Inc. publisher)" OOB, nor the other junk.  So, the culprits are either the end-user actions post-install, or safety of the network (overall), or the media quality prior to install.

 

Since Boot Camp Assistant creates new install media based on an existing ISO, the installation media is clearly corrupted at any level (BCA might be fake/infested/corrupted, Mac may be infested/corrupted, upstream media may be infested/corrupt).

 

Should the same process not result in a corrupted Linux (any variant) install, then it might help narrow down which 1000+ infections/rootkits/etc. the Mac is experiencing.

 

Either way you slice it, too many outside variables to even consider Windows as being the culprit for any end-user anguish.

[AeonicVision]

Okay, just confirmed on my Mac that BootCamp Assistant does NOT download Windows ISOs.

It will, however, locate one on your storage drive if an ISO is present.  The BootCamp software will only download the Apple drivers necessary for Windows installation,  create the install media, and then merge the necessary drivers/software.

 

If your ISO is corrupted from the get-go, the BootCamp Assistant will continue to suggest the same corrupted file for installation each time.  It does not download a fresh ISO, only the support drivers.

[TheReaperMan]

mm, just a idea, from the screen shot. what link did you down load chrome from?.

 

As some search engines throw up some dodgy copies of the chrome installer that can dupe users into installing stuff like this?

 

Looks like a normal chrome bundling with melware problem from the wrong link maybe?

Edited January 24, 2017 by TheReaperMan

[Dot Matrix]

2 hours ago, HelgenX said:

Holy mother of god. 2 hours later I could get to this webpage. I have no ######## clue what is going on, but I had tons of trojans, spyware, some ###### called netutils (adwcleaner is not removing it, keeps coming back,) I had a web browser hijacker and tons of popups, and I didn't even get to install anything yet, they just installed on their own. I only needed Windows 10 for some audio programs, but how am I to trust it if it's installing all this crazy stuff after a fresh install on it's own!?

 

Also, Windows Defender was disabled on it's own and I couldn't enable it because somehow it was disabled in the registry and gpedit couldn't open (was also disabled,) local policies disabled. I managed to remove the reg key and enable defender, but I'm still having a lot of problems at this very moment. I must ave used adwcleaner and restarted about 10 times so far. This is ridiculous.

IDK stop downloading torrents?

[Dot Matrix]

2 hours ago, HelgenX said:

I seriously can't figure why this only happens with Windows 10, but this is the last time I will ever install this OS. This is the damn developers pushing people to have to upgrade an OS to use their software for whatever reason, otherwise, I'm perfectly happy with 7. Never had problems like this on it. You'd think by now, Microsoft products would have more security than before but the same exact problems I had back in XP are here (malware and virus wise.) I don't know how, but I've never had a virus on my Windows 7 PC since day 1 (7 years!) Using only Microsoft Security Essentials alone.

"I ####ed up, and now I'm going to blame Windows!"

 

Hate to break it to you, but Windows 10 has some pretty advanced security. It's not the fault of the OS that you download stuff from questionable sources. It's like having burglars knock on the door, and you let them right in, then try to blame your security company for not catching them. 

 

PEBKAC!!!!

Edited January 24, 2017 by Dot Matrix

[LimeMaster]

To be completely honest, it looks like OP went on a dodgy porn site & got tricked into downloading some crap.

[0sit0]

"Windows 10 Is The Worst OS Ever Created." = Alternative Fact  

 

If you have tried different ISOs and you still have the same issue then it has to be some other program/drivers you are installing that are infected. 

[HelgenX]

26 minutes ago, Dot Matrix said:

"I ####ed up, and now I'm going to blame Windows!"

 

Hate to break it to you, but Windows 10 has some pretty advanced security.

Oh really? Even though I got all of these damn trojans and malware? Right. I'm taking Mando's link advice and going to do a fresh install. I'm going to record it, too. While my posts were malevolent because of my anger, the amount of people adding gas to the fire is absolutely astounding. But I guess it comes with the territory of insulting everyone's beloved Windows 10 that I just got trojans on right after a new install.