mikee286 Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 First off I am pretty sure my PSU is failing last week my computer powered off and rebooted randomly and hung at the motherboard screen. I hit the reset button and got a message saying a power supply surge was detected then it took me into the bios. All was well until today when it happened again today so I rebooted again then it didn't even finish booting and did it again then shut off completely and wouldn't turn on again until I unplugged the power cable and plugged it back in. I want something with enough power to power this computer for the remainder of it's life then maybe move to an amd ryzen build later this year. My current specs are AMD Phenom II X6 1045T, 240GB Crucial SSD, WD 500GB HDD, Seagate 1.5TB HDD, 12 GB ram, Geforce GTX 950 2GB DDR5, Old linksys wireless N PCI card from 10 years ago I am 99% sure the psu is buggered but what would you recommend as a replacement. Currently I have an Ultra X4 650W PSU that is from 2011. Some people have said bad things about ultra PSUs. Given my current specs and the thought of building an AMD Ryzen 4 or 6 core CPU build with the same hard drives and graphics card what would you recommend? I don’t want to spend too much on the PSU ideally under 120$ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sc302 Veteran Posted February 25, 2017 Veteran Share Posted February 25, 2017 500-750watt gold would do nicely and be in your budget. Alternatively, you can use a power supply calculator to get the right size, but I would guess 750 should be more than enough. https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B015YEI9NQ/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1488038388&sr=8-1&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&keywords=corsair+power+supply+750w&dpPl=1&dpID=51EN0dCedpL&ref=plSrch Hum 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikee286 Posted February 25, 2017 Author Share Posted February 25, 2017 I used coolermasters psu calculator and it said I only needed 360W I don't quite believe that. If I can I want to get something in the 6-700W range since currently I have a 650 just to keep cost down as much. I will never have more than 3 hard drives (2 HDD 1 SSD) and I will never be doing SLI or anything like that. I tried Neweggs PSU calculator and it states 556W for my setup. It would be nice to keep it in the 600W-700W rage. I have heard that most power supplies actually are slightly less than their actual rating. Would that justify getting the 750W? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sc302 Veteran Posted February 25, 2017 Veteran Share Posted February 25, 2017 Getting more isn't bad and your system won't pull more than is needed. The psu is rated to that. Bronze, silver, gold, and platinum are efficiency ratings. You can go with 650 if you wish, but I don't think there is much cost savings between 650 and 750. That particular one I linked to the 650 was the same price as the 750. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikee286 Posted February 25, 2017 Author Share Posted February 25, 2017 (edited) Does this one look good? A guy on facebook recommended I get this seasonic which is on sale https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151132 I don't know of the brand seasonic or if they are good quality in the PSU department but I know I got roasted for buying this Ultra PSU back in 2011 saying they aren't good quality and that it would probably blow up within a year or 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sc302 Veteran Posted February 25, 2017 Veteran Share Posted February 25, 2017 I like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barney T. Administrators Posted February 25, 2017 Administrators Share Posted February 25, 2017 Personally I like Thermaltake PSUs. Never had any issues with them and they are well built and awesome! Two examples..... https://www.amazon.com/Thermaltake-TOUGHPOWER-Modular-Supply-PS-TPD-0750MPCGUS-1/dp/B00IUQRPQS https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16817153167 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikee286 Posted February 25, 2017 Author Share Posted February 25, 2017 One thing I am worried about is if in a future build if I want to route the cables around the back of the case behind the motherboard that the cables wouldn't be long enough. My current case has no cable management features what so ever so everything is just bundled inside the case. I do know that my next build will be in a corsair carbide 200r so I want to make sure the cables will all reach where they need to go. I am not sure if there is a way to tell before buying anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sc302 Veteran Posted February 25, 2017 Veteran Share Posted February 25, 2017 I think you will find the the modular cables will be plenty long enough to put wherever you would like. The benefit of modular is that you only install the cables you need, no extra bundled up cables not in use..it helps with keeping things clean. It isn't a full tower so I wouldn't worry too much with cable length...if anything they will be too long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mindovermaster Global Moderator Posted February 25, 2017 Global Moderator Share Posted February 25, 2017 1 hour ago, Barney T. said: Personally I like Thermaltake PSUs. Never had any issues with them and they are well built and awesome! Two examples..... https://www.amazon.com/Thermaltake-TOUGHPOWER-Modular-Supply-PS-TPD-0750MPCGUS-1/dp/B00IUQRPQS https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16817153167 T3X4S will hate you for life... The Evil Overlord and Danielx64 2 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikee286 Posted February 25, 2017 Author Share Posted February 25, 2017 1 hour ago, sc302 said: I think you will find the the modular cables will be plenty long enough to put wherever you would like. The benefit of modular is that you only install the cables you need, no extra bundled up cables not in use..it helps with keeping things clean. It isn't a full tower so I wouldn't worry too much with cable length...if anything they will be too long. Yeah I think the 200r is mid tower but since the psu mounts on the bottom in that case the motherboard 4 or 8 pin connector might be a stretch since most motherboards have that connector at the top of the board I read that in the reviews on newegg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sc302 Veteran Posted February 25, 2017 Veteran Share Posted February 25, 2017 Most cases anymore, the psu is mounted at the bottom. Not sure why exactly, water sits at the bottom in a flood...liquid cooling breaks water goes to the bottom of the case. I guess so that you know it is fried if you see a pool of water under it???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikee286 Posted February 25, 2017 Author Share Posted February 25, 2017 Yeah the only thing I like about that design is that if you have a non modular psu all the excess cables sit at the bottom instead of droop down over the whole board. Other than that I guess you could vacuum clean the floor under your computer with a bottom mounted psu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seahorsepip Veteran Posted February 25, 2017 Veteran Share Posted February 25, 2017 5 minutes ago, sc302 said: Most cases anymore, the psu is mounted at the bottom. Not sure why exactly, water sits at the bottom in a flood...liquid cooling breaks water goes to the bottom of the case. I guess so that you know it is fried if you see a pool of water under it???? Better air flow, hot air from the PSU can easierly flow out of the case together with the other hot air and easier cable management of course. Most cases allow for both top and bottom montage to fit everyone's needs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sc302 Veteran Posted February 25, 2017 Veteran Share Posted February 25, 2017 Hot air rises, psu pulls air from case and pushes out. I have never ever seen a psu blow air into the case. It makes no sense to put the psu at the bottom unless you are suggesting that the front fans that pull air into the case help cool the psu and the psu isn't subject to as much heat at the bottom being that hot air rises. Some cases also have vents at the top and bottom so it pulls in air outside the case into the psu and blows out the back of the psu. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Evil Overlord Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 1 hour ago, sc302 said: Hot air rises, psu pulls air from case and pushes out. I have never ever seen a psu blow air into the case. It makes no sense to put the psu at the bottom unless you are suggesting that the front fans that pull air into the case help cool the psu and the psu isn't subject to as much heat at the bottom being that hot air rises. Some cases also have vents at the top and bottom so it pulls in air outside the case into the psu and blows out the back of the psu. Plus with some sli builds, the second GPU fan sits rather close to the one in the psu. Asus crossfire in a cooler master silencio for example. +Raze 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luc2k Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 (edited) That Newegg PSU calculator is a joke. It suggests a 750W PSU for my system, while I'm running fine with a 5 year old Seasonic X-550 (Gold) and that includes gaming. Do not buy a PSU over 500 unless the price is basically the same or you're aiming for high-end GPUs in the future. It has to be a quality one though, so I recommend Seasonic and Super Flower. They are tier 1 manufacturers. Go modular for convenience and airflow. Read reviews. Yogurth 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mindovermaster Global Moderator Posted February 25, 2017 Global Moderator Share Posted February 25, 2017 20 minutes ago, Luc2k said: That Newegg PSU calculator is a joke. It suggests a 750W PSU for my system, while I'm running fine with a 5 year old Seasonic X-550 (Gold) and that includes gaming. Do not buy a PSU over 500 unless the price is basically the same or you're aiming for high-end GPUs in the future. It has to be a quality one though, so I recommend Seasonic and Super Flower. They are tier 1 manufacturers. Go modular for convenience and airflow. Read reviews. I would never recommend a 500W, most of those are old. Get a 650, 750. They are newer, better, and can last a lifetime. My Seasonic 600W has lasted me 5 good years. 3 generations, iirc... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luc2k Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 1 minute ago, Mindovermaster said: I would never recommend a 500W, most of those are old. Get a 650, 750. They are newer, better, and can last a lifetime. My Seasonic 600W has lasted me 5 good years. 3 generations, iirc... There are new 500W models as well and modern hardware is using less power than ever before. Best bet is to read reviews, not pick a arbitrary wattage. A great PSU will even go above the rated wattage if needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danielx64 Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 18 minutes ago, Luc2k said: There are new 500W models as well and modern hardware is using less power than ever before. Best bet is to read reviews, not pick a arbitrary wattage. A great PSU will even go above the rated wattage if needed. Yeah I'm thinking of dropping from a 750W PSU to a 650W one. When I first built my PC it was all AMD and it was a bit power hungry and now that I am on Intel/nvidia it not so bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mindovermaster Global Moderator Posted February 25, 2017 Global Moderator Share Posted February 25, 2017 A 750W PSU isn't going to use 750W, you know... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luc2k Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Mindovermaster said: A 750W PSU isn't going to use 750W, you know... Would it cost more than a lower wattage one and what is the point if his system is never going to use that much? Why stop at 750W? Go with 1500W, those are the best, and his system is not going to use 1500W either. Why be wasteful? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sc302 Veteran Posted February 25, 2017 Veteran Share Posted February 25, 2017 Would it cost more than lower wattage one and what is the point if his system is never going to use that much? Depends on the site and depends on the brand. It may end up costing the same or a little more. Amazon has a 650 for the same price as the 750, same brand, same model class, only difference is wattage. Don't sell yourself short and don't assume you can't get something better for the same price (or within $10) within the same quality range. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yogurth Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Mindovermaster said: A 750W PSU isn't going to use 750W, you know... It is an overkill for his setup. His system uses no more than 350W. There is no reason to pay premium price for 750W if You need almost half of that juice. Luc2k 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luc2k Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 (edited) 9 minutes ago, sc302 said: 14 minutes ago, Luc2k said: Would it cost more than lower wattage one and what is the point if his system is never going to use that much? Depends on the site and depends on the brand. It may end up costing the same or a little more. Amazon has a 650 for the same price as the 750, same brand, same model class, only difference is wattage. Don't sell yourself short and don't assume you can't get something better for the same price (or within $10) within the same quality range. For same price sure, but not a cent more if I know I'm not going to need it. To be fair, I noticed that in the US there is a lot less choice in <600W than in Europe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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