mattmatik Posted January 18, 2004 Share Posted January 18, 2004 Cavs beat Utah in OT. - ESPN.com What is it with sports athletes comparing themselves to men and women who give their lives everyday for their country? It was funny when Kellen "Souljah" Winslow, Jr. said it, but this is getting ridiculous. And correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't football more of a "violent battle" than basketball? I'm curious to see if this will get any scrutiny. Everyone ripped Winslow for a few weeks; somehow I doubt LeBron will get the same treatment :rolleyes: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/132980-lebron-im-a-soldier/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
BMac Posted January 18, 2004 Share Posted January 18, 2004 I hope he does. I realise he's young but his comment was out of line and he needs to learn early that there are reprocussion for your actions. Here's hoping the media rips him up. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/132980-lebron-im-a-soldier/#findComment-1614670 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroChaos Veteran Posted January 18, 2004 Veteran Share Posted January 18, 2004 haha, thats funny. i hate winslow though. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/132980-lebron-im-a-soldier/#findComment-1614863 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BMac Posted January 18, 2004 Share Posted January 18, 2004 See because it's Lebron it's funny. :angry: People are so hypocritical. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/132980-lebron-im-a-soldier/#findComment-1614866 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattmatik Posted January 18, 2004 Author Share Posted January 18, 2004 haha, thats funny. i hate winslow though. I hate Winslow as well. I do admit, Winslow's comments were more "insulting" as he used derogotory words as well, and he also was criticizing officials. The reason I said Winslow's comments were funny was because he actually believed what he was saying. But, in no way is it funny hearing some guy who gets millions of dollars compare himself to a guy who gets MAYBE minimum wage and protects the rights of that athlete. More and more I'm liking Carmelo. Doesn't talk, doesn't gloat, doesn't put himself above even his own teammates. But, that's for another thread :) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/132980-lebron-im-a-soldier/#findComment-1614882 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chad Posted January 18, 2004 Share Posted January 18, 2004 The word "soldier" carries much more meaning that just someone who fights in wars. Go find a dictionary. What I find humorous is you guys will take anything someone says and rip it apart just because you don't like them. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/132980-lebron-im-a-soldier/#findComment-1615029 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattmatik Posted January 18, 2004 Author Share Posted January 18, 2004 "sol?dier ( P ) Pronunciation Key (sljr) n. One who serves in an army. An enlisted person or a noncommissioned officer. An active, loyal, or militant follower of an organization. A sexually undeveloped form of certain ants and termites, having large heads and powerful jaws. One of a group of honeybees that swarm in defense of a hive. intr.v. sol?diered, sol?dier?ing, sol?diers To be or serve as a soldier. To make a show of working in order to escape punishment." So you are telling me that LeBron James, Kellen Winslow, Jr., etc. refer to themselves as followers of an organization. No, thanks, I don't buy that one bit. Maybe they are undeveloped ants? No. They know exactly what they mean, and so do you. And it's not about hating someone or liking someone. Although I understand your post and your intentions, professional athletes are not soldiers. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/132980-lebron-im-a-soldier/#findComment-1615054 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chad Posted January 18, 2004 Share Posted January 18, 2004 *sigh* Soldier \Sol"dier\, v. i. 1. To serve as a soldier. 2. To make a pretense of doing something, or of performing any task. [Colloq.U.S.] 3. A brave warrior I do know what they mean. Unfortunately, some people like to make an issue out of anything. And in this case, you are making an issue because of your dislike of Lebron. Either that or you just like to put up a fuss over nothing. Professional athletes can be soldiers, I am a soldier, ANYONE can be a soldier. It's an attitude...not a job. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/132980-lebron-im-a-soldier/#findComment-1615126 Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemania Posted January 18, 2004 Share Posted January 18, 2004 You guys are taking this way too seriously Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/132980-lebron-im-a-soldier/#findComment-1615180 Share on other sites More sharing options...
-=SD=- Posted January 18, 2004 Share Posted January 18, 2004 I don't mind it, tho it is odd to say that when you don't even finish the game... Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/132980-lebron-im-a-soldier/#findComment-1615350 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bayrider Posted January 18, 2004 Share Posted January 18, 2004 first of all soldier is not always someone who fights a war in Iraq. its definately used as a slang term (noawadays) to describe someone who is hardworking and loyal. I think LeBron fits that category really well especially considering his age and how he is his teams star player. you guys sound like you wanna lynch him for using 1 "wrong" word. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/132980-lebron-im-a-soldier/#findComment-1616072 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kak Posted January 18, 2004 Share Posted January 18, 2004 LeBron used it in different context. He's a soldier in meaning he'll recover quickly to get back out on the court and do what he loves. Winslow is a 'fkn souljah' because he's an arragont prick. He was referring to the scenario of "it's either me or him" and he broke someone's ribs, etc. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/132980-lebron-im-a-soldier/#findComment-1616098 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BMac Posted January 18, 2004 Share Posted January 18, 2004 I can't believe you guys. Everybody ripped Russ Limbough earlier this year for making a candate point. Everyone knows he out spoken and he made a comment, true or not, and because he's not a star he gets his ass ripped. Lebron makes a different comment that is just as nonesensible as Libough's statement and it's funny? You guys are hypocrites. :crazy: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/132980-lebron-im-a-soldier/#findComment-1616411 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mufdvr3669 Posted January 18, 2004 Share Posted January 18, 2004 BMac you are comparing two totally different things. LeBron said he's a soldier, a hard worker, tough guy or whatever he meant. Limbaugh said something that could be viewed as racist even though I didn't think it was. He maybe just needed a few of his Oxy's to calm him down or whatever. If LeBron said Larry Bird was overrated because he was white then you could compare the two. Otherwise, quit trying to make a point when the two don't even relate to each other. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/132980-lebron-im-a-soldier/#findComment-1616443 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BMac Posted January 18, 2004 Share Posted January 18, 2004 No it's not so different. In today's time there are many young men and women overseas fighting for our safety and the freedom of the Iraqi people. They are soldiers. Lebron is a guy who dribbles. He may do it well but still. You need to be aware of the current emotional state of the people and Lebron's comment were over the line. I don't condon Limbaugh's statements but Lebron's statement was wrong and he needs to apologize. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/132980-lebron-im-a-soldier/#findComment-1616468 Share on other sites More sharing options...
IlliniPi Posted January 18, 2004 Share Posted January 18, 2004 Have you heard of figurative speech? Damn, I've never seen someone overreact so much to something as dumb as this...I don't think he's going to be apologizing soon because most people will understand that it was just figuratively said. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/132980-lebron-im-a-soldier/#findComment-1616607 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bangbang023 Veteran Posted January 18, 2004 Veteran Share Posted January 18, 2004 so I guess next time a dad tells his son at a youth baseball game "go get 'em trooper" you guys will get all ****ed at him too :rolleyes: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/132980-lebron-im-a-soldier/#findComment-1616624 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BMac Posted January 18, 2004 Share Posted January 18, 2004 I know that ir is figurative speech but this guys face is in the media. He needs to be careful at what he says. That's where it's different bangbang. A dad won't be heard all across the nation. There's a difference and Lebron needs to watch what he says. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/132980-lebron-im-a-soldier/#findComment-1616792 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayepecks Posted January 18, 2004 Share Posted January 18, 2004 LeBron didn't mean it the same way -- at all -- as Winslow II did. Winslow's comment was made in rage and malice, while LeBron was just saying he's tough and can take it. While Winslow may have been saying the same thing, he said it in a rude context. LeBron's was much more figurative, as has already been pointed out. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/132980-lebron-im-a-soldier/#findComment-1616823 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mufdvr3669 Posted January 18, 2004 Share Posted January 18, 2004 BMac, your what he said and running with it. In no way did he make light of the soldier's in iraq. He used it in a different context, so if someone says that a game is a war or fight or battle they are making fun of the military. NO!!! I guess no one can ever use those words again without you getting upset. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/132980-lebron-im-a-soldier/#findComment-1617098 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroChaos Veteran Posted January 19, 2004 Veteran Share Posted January 19, 2004 LeBron didn't mean it the same way -- at all -- as Winslow II did. Winslow's comment was made in rage and malice, while LeBron was just saying he's tough and can take it. While Winslow may have been saying the same thing, he said it in a rude context. LeBron's was much more figurative, as has already been pointed out. i agree. :yes: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/132980-lebron-im-a-soldier/#findComment-1617738 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drov Posted January 19, 2004 Share Posted January 19, 2004 It doesn't sound like he used it in the same context as Kellen. However, I hope Kellen gets his head taken off in the NFL and then some. Being a UT Vol myself, I was glad to see him get his A** handed to him. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/132980-lebron-im-a-soldier/#findComment-1617822 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CatnipOligarchy Posted January 19, 2004 Share Posted January 19, 2004 what the hell. Its a figure of speech. Lebron did not mean "I'm fighting to protect our freedom!" He's just saying he's tough. You people overreact so much. Sme thing with winslow. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/132980-lebron-im-a-soldier/#findComment-1618626 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroChaos Veteran Posted January 19, 2004 Veteran Share Posted January 19, 2004 yeah, but winslow is a dip****, and an arrogant prick. winslow deserved the crap he got, and like drov, i hope he gets pummeled in the nfl. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/132980-lebron-im-a-soldier/#findComment-1618673 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayepecks Posted January 19, 2004 Share Posted January 19, 2004 what the hell. Its a figure of speech. Lebron did not mean "I'm fighting to protect our freedom!" He's just saying he's tough. You people overreact so much. Sme thing with winslow. No, Winslow's comments were rude and full of malice and anger. Did you not see the videotape of it? He made it sound like he was better than everyone out there on the field and as though he was doing the job of a "soldier" on the field. I've lost most of my respect for Winslow (as a person, at least) since he made those comments. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/132980-lebron-im-a-soldier/#findComment-1618694 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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