madd-hatter Posted August 25, 2017 Share Posted August 25, 2017 (edited) On 8/23/2017 at 3:20 PM, dwLostCat said: I see your perspective, but you took my original comment too personally; it wasn't directed at you, it was simply what came to mind after watching the reveal video. My "a fool and his money are soon parted" comment was meant as a commentary on this 1.1, 1.2 version trend that both MS and Sony are guilty of with the current console generation. I find this style of releases for these consoles deplorable. I personally purchased the original Xbox One for the Master Chief Collection and it was the worst experience I've had with any console, ever. Not only was MCC embarrassingly incomplete and lacking any real network support, the UI, speed, and functionality of the XB1 itself on release was a clear step backwards from what the 360 had established. I sold off that PoS console and then this trend began of consoles being re-released, insulting the true fans who were suckered into buying rushed versions of inferior hardware and half-assed software. It is gross, is sickens me. I returned to PC gaming and have watched from the sideline as this non-sense continues. Edited August 25, 2017 by Andrew Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1334576-xbox-one-x/page/3/#findComment-598008126 Share on other sites More sharing options...
spaceelf Posted August 25, 2017 Author Share Posted August 25, 2017 (Note to self: People consider it being called an idiot when they weren't.) 2.5 months is a long wait for awesomeness. =) The X1 did have more than its share of issues when I got it, can't deny that. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1334576-xbox-one-x/page/3/#findComment-598008430 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildWayz Posted August 25, 2017 Share Posted August 25, 2017 2 minutes ago, dwLostCat said: (Note to self: People consider it being called an idiot when they weren't.) 2.5 months is a long wait for awesomeness. =) The X1 did have more than its share of issues when I got it, can't deny that. I hope the install time is sorted. PS4 takes seconds / minutes - my XO sometimes took hours... Not even patching anything, just installing off disc! Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1334576-xbox-one-x/page/3/#findComment-598008432 Share on other sites More sharing options...
spaceelf Posted August 25, 2017 Author Share Posted August 25, 2017 1 minute ago, WildWayz said: I hope the install time is sorted. PS4 takes seconds / minutes - my XO sometimes took hours... Not even patching anything, just installing off disc! Yeah, but they didn't make it clear how much was installling off the disc and how much was downloading patches. Some of those patches were admittedly nuts. Fortunately I didn't really do discs this gen on X. I got a bunch for the PS4 Pro because I'm not even sure if I'll keep it long term, but I'm sure they'll be worthless by the time I let it go anyway. Apparently my ISP has decided to get me 50mb internet by the end of the year, so I'll probably go back to digital. WildWayz 1 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1334576-xbox-one-x/page/3/#findComment-598008450 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildWayz Posted August 25, 2017 Share Posted August 25, 2017 I'm lucky... Got 300mbit connection so digital only is fine for me Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1334576-xbox-one-x/page/3/#findComment-598008492 Share on other sites More sharing options...
George P Global Moderator Posted August 26, 2017 Global Moderator Share Posted August 26, 2017 It's kind of funny how, oh, 4 years ago, the idea of digital only was this huge no no by gamers, but now as time goes on everyones going digital. I think the last game on disc i bought was 3 years ago? The long time PC gamers have been doing the digital only option forever I'd say, specially the steam lovers out there. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1334576-xbox-one-x/page/3/#findComment-598009462 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnoopZ Posted August 26, 2017 Share Posted August 26, 2017 (edited) 31 minutes ago, George P said: It's kind of funny how, oh, 4 years ago, the idea of digital only was this huge no no by gamers, but now as time goes on everyones going digital. I think the last game on disc i bought was 3 years ago? The long time PC gamers have been doing the digital only option forever I'd say, specially the steam lovers out there. I've done the opposite, gone from digital only on the Xbox One to only buying games on disc on the PS4, due to the resale value and that i can buy far cheaper and often preowned. DirtyLarry 1 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1334576-xbox-one-x/page/3/#findComment-598009478 Share on other sites More sharing options...
spaceelf Posted August 28, 2017 Author Share Posted August 28, 2017 On 8/26/2017 at 0:09 PM, George P said: It's kind of funny how, oh, 4 years ago, the idea of digital only was this huge no no by gamers, but now as time goes on everyones going digital. I think the last game on disc i bought was 3 years ago? The long time PC gamers have been doing the digital only option forever I'd say, specially the steam lovers out there. I still think if there were obvious benefits (say lower cost of new games, for example) people would've been happy to buy an all digital console. They weren't really giving a solid presentation as to why the users would want it that way, IMO. I have been almost all digital for a long time, and it's only recently (depending on the game, of course) I'm starting to regret it. But, supposedly I get a major ISP upgrade this year so that won't last. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1334576-xbox-one-x/page/3/#findComment-598010564 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vandalsquad Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 (edited) Have 100Mbps at the moment and will shortly be getting 1Gbps in the coming months and still will refuse to go digital ever until discs are no longer pressed. Xbox install times is because largely it updates as it installs. Disconnect from the net before hand if you don't have a decent connection. Tomb Raider comparison. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1334576-xbox-one-x/page/3/#findComment-598010632 Share on other sites More sharing options...
George P Global Moderator Posted August 28, 2017 Global Moderator Share Posted August 28, 2017 I think that going forward the system will be smart about updates and we could start to see smaller ones in the future. As long as you're not getting any new content and the updates are fixes, then they should be small. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1334576-xbox-one-x/page/3/#findComment-598010786 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedon Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 These Xbox One X games are just through the roof amazing. I never thought I would see the day we would have PC quality games on console. Xbox One X brings home the bacon baby. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1334576-xbox-one-x/page/3/#findComment-598011976 Share on other sites More sharing options...
George P Global Moderator Posted August 30, 2017 Global Moderator Share Posted August 30, 2017 One could say that PC gaming hasn't really been jumping by leaps and bounds for quite some time now. We've been getting held back by developers need to be able to get their games to play on the weaker consoles for the past 10+ years. Now with the X, consoles are getting into PC spec territory and the games won't be as held back as they were. I think we'll finally see a meaningful jump in game graphics with the next consoles, probably around 2020. Bumping the res up to 4k is just one step of what's possible. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1334576-xbox-one-x/page/3/#findComment-598012724 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildWayz Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 I agree. I don't think it is the case with the Pro / XOX - but the next major release WILL be 4K 60Hz. It has to be. The Jaguar chip holds back so much. Changing it to something much more modern will improve things massively. Technology is moving ahead again with cooler / smaller chips etc. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1334576-xbox-one-x/page/3/#findComment-598012740 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skiver Veteran Posted August 30, 2017 Veteran Share Posted August 30, 2017 Can't believe I missed out on the Scorpio edition Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1334576-xbox-one-x/page/3/#findComment-598012752 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildWayz Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 Just now, Skiver said: Can't believe I missed out on the Scorpio edition I just cancelled mine on Amazon UK... Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1334576-xbox-one-x/page/3/#findComment-598012754 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skiver Veteran Posted August 30, 2017 Veteran Share Posted August 30, 2017 Just now, WildWayz said: I just cancelled mine on Amazon UK... *Refreshes Amazon constantly* Not a big deal of course, just never expected to not have the choice. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1334576-xbox-one-x/page/3/#findComment-598012758 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mando Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 31 minutes ago, George P said: One could say that PC gaming hasn't really been jumping by leaps and bounds for quite some time now. We've been getting held back by developers need to be able to get their games to play on the weaker consoles for the past 10+ years. Now with the X, consoles are getting into PC spec territory and the games won't be as held back as they were. I think we'll finally see a meaningful jump in game graphics with the next consoles, probably around 2020. Bumping the res up to 4k is just one step of what's possible. yep, pretty much sums it up, seeing 8k textures running on DSR on a 4k monitor@60fps via my 1080ti sig rig is a sight to see console heads who make the leap will wet their little tidy whiteys ill probs just pick up a cheap 2nd hand One S for downstairs, still waiting for the killer One X title....that isnt cross platform play, until then its mileage for me varies. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1334576-xbox-one-x/page/3/#findComment-598012778 Share on other sites More sharing options...
techbeck Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 (edited) 20 minutes ago, Skiver said: Can't believe I missed out on the Scorpio edition I will sell you the one I am getting for $1000... I almost missed out myself. Got mine in a few days before MS announced they were sold out. All you are missing is a diff case design. Other hardware should be the same. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1334576-xbox-one-x/page/3/#findComment-598012780 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skiver Veteran Posted August 30, 2017 Veteran Share Posted August 30, 2017 8 minutes ago, techbeck said: I will sell you the one I am getting for $1000... I almost missed out myself. Got mine in a few days before MS announced they were sold out. All you are missing is a diff case design. Other hardware should be the same. $2000 or no deal... hold on a second!? If I'm honest I probably wouldn't have pre-ordered had I have been around when it was announced. A Couple of unexpected outgoings have left me a little short at the moment so I won't be ordering mine until I can be sure I'll have the funds. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1334576-xbox-one-x/page/3/#findComment-598012796 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mando Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 16 minutes ago, Skiver said: $2000 or no deal... hold on a second!? If I'm honest I probably wouldn't have pre-ordered had I have been around when it was announced. A Couple of unexpected outgoings have left me a little short at the moment so I won't be ordering mine until I can be sure I'll have the funds. sensible lad sensible no point getting into cc debt for a bit of tech IMO. Im in the same boat got 50% set aside for a new big 4k gsync mon by end of the year i should have enough HDR is probs out due to the costs they reckoning for gsyc big 35 UW HDRs knocking around £1500, thats just way too much. Toying with a good 43ish 4k HDR TV and just putting up with 60hz on hdmi, pity they didnt have DP on a wall bracket just above my samsung 27" main display. Gaming and media on the TV, windows on the 27 Skiver 1 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1334576-xbox-one-x/page/3/#findComment-598012810 Share on other sites More sharing options...
techbeck Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 2 minutes ago, Mando said: sensible lad sensible no point getting into cc debt for a bit of tech IMO. Im in the same boat got 50% set aside for a new big 4k gsync mon by end of the year i should have enough HDR is probs out due to the costs they reckoning for gsyc big 35 UW HDRs knocking around £1500, thats just way too much. Yea, I am waiting on buying my 4k TV myself. I have the funds, just looking for a deal. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1334576-xbox-one-x/page/3/#findComment-598012820 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mando Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 Just now, techbeck said: Yea, I am waiting on buying my 4k TV myself. I have the funds, just looking for a deal. saw some cracking HDR pro (they do both types of HDR) under £450 mate. starting at 43" LG deffo and sammys. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1334576-xbox-one-x/page/3/#findComment-598012822 Share on other sites More sharing options...
techbeck Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 3 minutes ago, Mando said: saw some cracking HDR pro (they do both types of HDR) under £450 mate. starting at 43" LG deffo and sammys. Looking for a 50in or more. I will seriously look at it close it comes to getting the X1X. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1334576-xbox-one-x/page/3/#findComment-598012824 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dipsylalapo Supervisor Posted August 30, 2017 Supervisor Share Posted August 30, 2017 4 minutes ago, Mando said: saw some cracking HDR pro (they do both types of HDR) under £450 mate. starting at 43" LG deffo and sammys. Ooh do you have links? I've been looking out for a HDR Pro TV around that size. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1334576-xbox-one-x/page/3/#findComment-598012828 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tidosho Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 On 8/25/2017 at 0:50 PM, madd-hatter said: I see your perspective, but you took my original comment too personally; it wasn't directed at you, it was simply what came to mind after watching the reveal video. My "a fool and his money are soon parted" comment was meant as a commentary on this 1.1, 1.2 version trend that both MS and Sony are guilty of with the current console generation. I find this style of releases for these consoles deplorable. I personally purchased the original Xbox One for the Master Chief Collection and it was the worst experience I've had with any console, ever. Not only was MCC embarrassingly incomplete and lacking any real network support, the UI, speed, and functionality of the XB1 itself on release was a clear step backwards from what the 360 had established. I sold off that PoS console and then this trend began of consoles being re-released, insulting the true fans who were suckered into buying rushed versions of inferior hardware and half-assed software. It is gross, is sickens me. I returned to PC gaming and have watched from the sideline as this non-sense continues. It isn't just MS and Sony. Apple do it with every device, the iPad being the one that comes to mind. It's Apple that started the inferior release craze AFAIK, so you've got them to thank for the rest of the stupid industry following the control freaks yet again. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1334576-xbox-one-x/page/3/#findComment-598012838 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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