Haggis Veteran Posted July 19, 2017 Veteran Share Posted July 19, 2017 Ok having a strange issue so i have main router with internet coming into the house, i have another router connected via cable to it that i am using as a wifi access point when i am connected to the 2nd wifi i cant seem to access the devices connected to the main router so looks like this 192.168.0.1 (Main router, does DHCP) 192.168.0.2 (Second router connected via ethernet to Main Router, DHCP Turned off 192.168.0.3 Gigabit Switch connected to main router 192.168.0.4 PLex Media center connected to switch So if i am on the second router wifi and try to access PLex for example it appears as it does not exist. If i connect to the main router wifi it works fine All hosts on 192.168.0.0/24 Also does anyone have a good dedicated wifi access point i could switch the second router for instead that provide wifi ac thats not gonna break the bank i have no use for vlan or anythin like that so just a basic one Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1337010-network-issue-with-wifi/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
dipsylalapo Supervisor Posted July 19, 2017 Supervisor Share Posted July 19, 2017 Can't help you with your problem, I'm useless with networking but am doing my best to learn But on the AP, a few people on here and most of the people I know highly recommend the UniFi stuff. Not sure what breaking the bank for you is.... Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1337010-network-issue-with-wifi/#findComment-597966288 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haggis Veteran Posted July 19, 2017 Author Veteran Share Posted July 19, 2017 thanks, was looking at https://www.amazon.co.uk/Ubiquiti-Networks-UAP-AC-LR-802-11ac-Dual-Radio/dp/B016K5A06C/ref=sr_1_fkmr0_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1500478015&sr=8-1-fkmr0&keywords=Ubiquiti+UAP-AC-LR+UniFi+Long+Range+AC1300+Simultaneous+Dual-Band+WiFi+PoE+Access+Point+(1300Mbps+AC) this one, would still like to know the issue though, i am wondering if its double natting Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1337010-network-issue-with-wifi/#findComment-597966302 Share on other sites More sharing options...
farmeunit Posted July 19, 2017 Share Posted July 19, 2017 Are you using the Internet/WAN port on the 2nd router or another port? You might use this for a guide, as well: https://www.labnol.org/software/add-router-to-wireless-network/19716/ And did you change from gateway to router? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1337010-network-issue-with-wifi/#findComment-597966346 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sc302 Veteran Posted July 21, 2017 Veteran Share Posted July 21, 2017 You must plug into the lan port on router 2 to a lan port on router 1. Do not plug anything into the wan/internet port this will mess things up. Any subsequent routers that you add onto the network behind router 1, put a piece of tape over the wan/internet port so that you aren't tempted to use it. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1337010-network-issue-with-wifi/#findComment-597969908 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+BudMan MVC Posted July 22, 2017 MVC Share Posted July 22, 2017 On 7/19/2017 at 10:14 AM, Haggis said: have no use for vlan or anythin like that so just a basic one Wow this sort of statement makes me just cringe with pain.. You have no use to isolate devices on your network? You have any iot devices at all? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1337010-network-issue-with-wifi/#findComment-597970082 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haggis Veteran Posted July 23, 2017 Author Veteran Share Posted July 23, 2017 Nothing on my network that i need to split no. Only devices that connnect to it are all trusted. So on my network i have smart tvs. Mobile phone. Laptops. Server and one cctv camera. What would you segregate on that and why? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1337010-network-issue-with-wifi/#findComment-597970788 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+BudMan MVC Posted July 24, 2017 MVC Share Posted July 24, 2017 Smart tvs - so you have no idea what could get infected with those.. IP cameras? You do understand there is like 1200 models of those that are open to back doors and such, have no freaking idea about their code, etc. Why would you not isolate those away from your laptops and servers? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1337010-network-issue-with-wifi/#findComment-597971254 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jazmac Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 Where is the modem in your setup? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1337010-network-issue-with-wifi/#findComment-597971272 Share on other sites More sharing options...
nabz0r Veteran Posted July 24, 2017 Veteran Share Posted July 24, 2017 As for suggestion, go with the Ubiquiti, those AP's are rock solid and must have inho. I bought two used ones 2011ish and they worked perfectly well until last month one of them died so I had to upgrade and now I have two Unifi AC-Pro. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1337010-network-issue-with-wifi/#findComment-597972136 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haggis Veteran Posted July 28, 2017 Author Veteran Share Posted July 28, 2017 On 24/07/2017 at 2:45 AM, BudMan said: Smart tvs - so you have no idea what could get infected with those.. IP cameras? You do understand there is like 1200 models of those that are open to back doors and such, have no freaking idea about their code, etc. Why would you not isolate those away from your laptops and servers? The IP Camera is locked down, Not accessible to the outside, has no traffic in or out form the outside world. On 24/07/2017 at 3:20 AM, Jazmac said: Where is the modem in your setup? Its built into the router where the main line comes in On 24/07/2017 at 6:23 PM, nabz0r said: As for suggestion, go with the Ubiquiti, those AP's are rock solid and must have inho. I bought two used ones 2011ish and they worked perfectly well until last month one of them died so I had to upgrade and now I have two Unifi AC-Pro. Cool, i was looking at these already but was not sure if they were as good as they seem. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1337010-network-issue-with-wifi/#findComment-597977552 Share on other sites More sharing options...
adrynalyne Posted July 28, 2017 Share Posted July 28, 2017 14 minutes ago, Haggis said: The IP Camera is locked down, Not accessible to the outside, has no traffic in or out form the outside world. Its built into the router where the main line comes in Cool, i was looking at these already but was not sure if they were as good as they seem. They are a great bang for your buck. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1337010-network-issue-with-wifi/#findComment-597977572 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haggis Veteran Posted July 28, 2017 Author Veteran Share Posted July 28, 2017 @BudMan, this is how my network is just now, the lower switch is only one capable of VLAN So on the switch if i had two VLANS, the server and Internet would need to be shared between them but i could have VLAN1 Server, Smart TV, Smart TV, Sonos, Sonos, Sonos, Pi Hole, IP Camera VLAN2 Everything else including server and internet is it as simple as that? Basic Drawing below Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1337010-network-issue-with-wifi/#findComment-597977592 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+BudMan MVC Posted July 28, 2017 MVC Share Posted July 28, 2017 So the 24 port switch can do vlans? If you can put whatever you want on whatever vlans you want 2, 10, 20 as many really as you would need. the only limitation is if that 8 port switch is dumb. Then anything connected to that switch would be on the same vlan. Your wifi doesn't do vlans (does it) so your limited to all your wifi being on 1 vlan.. What exactly are you using for your current modem/router there? does it even support vlans? If your router does not support vlans - doesn't matter what your switch can do, unless its L3 (router) and then you could isolate everything there and just use a transit to your internet router. But then you would be limited to the ACL controls it has, etc. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1337010-network-issue-with-wifi/#findComment-597977600 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haggis Veteran Posted July 28, 2017 Author Veteran Share Posted July 28, 2017 So the modem/router is currently just the ISP standard and does not do vlans, i plan to change this in the future Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1337010-network-issue-with-wifi/#findComment-597977632 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+BudMan MVC Posted July 28, 2017 MVC Share Posted July 28, 2017 once you change that then yeah your good.. if the 8 porter can not do vlans then all devices connected too it will just be on the vlan you assign the port its uplinked too on the 24 port vlan switch Haggis 1 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1337010-network-issue-with-wifi/#findComment-597977992 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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