Prototype1864 Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 Hi guys. i currently have a ASUS RT-AC88U router in the house connected to a FTTP connection, now my shed in the garden is quite far away, 28+ meters, now my electrition has wired a CAT5e cable from the router to the shed, I crimped both ends, plugged my laptop in the shed end and i had full connection 300+mb, it lasted a couple hours now the connection is dead at both ends, i first thought that maybe i crimped it wrong, so i let the electrition do it this time but it's still dead, the electrition done a test to make sure the cable was still intact and that nothing was wrong with the wire and the wire is fine, so then i got a Ethernet plug socket at both ends to eliminate a bad crimp or connection but there still is no connection, can anyone help?, am i doing something wrong? getting me frustrated now, only thing i haven't tried is to change the router but surely it's not that? any help is much apreshated Sab, Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1340024-need-help-for-network-ap-in-shed-from-house/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
xendrome Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 (edited) So your laptop is only going to get 100Mbit or 1000Mbit over that connection, not 300Mbit. You must mean via a speed test or something. You said you plugged the laptop directly in, but your title says Network AP? Which is it? Can you take a pic of both ends of the network wire so we can see the wiring? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1340024-need-help-for-network-ap-in-shed-from-house/#findComment-598002306 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prototype1864 Posted August 20, 2017 Author Share Posted August 20, 2017 Yeah sorry speed test not actually line speed, yeah im going to install a unifi AP in the shed but i can't do that yet untill the cable is stable and working, as im going to plug it into a network switch in the shed, i'll get a photo in a sec and post it for you Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1340024-need-help-for-network-ap-in-shed-from-house/#findComment-598002308 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prototype1864 Posted August 20, 2017 Author Share Posted August 20, 2017 Here are the images Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1340024-need-help-for-network-ap-in-shed-from-house/#findComment-598002318 Share on other sites More sharing options...
xendrome Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 (edited) Were those pairs installed into the faceplates with a proper punch down tool? And what type of wire is that, are there any markings on it. Additionally is the wire run between building through conduit and if so any others wires in the same conduit like electrical? You might need to invest in an inexpensive CAT5/6 tester to see if there are any open/crossed over wires.. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1340024-need-help-for-network-ap-in-shed-from-house/#findComment-598002322 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prototype1864 Posted August 20, 2017 Author Share Posted August 20, 2017 Yes i burrowed the punch tool from a friend who works for openreach, it's a CAT5e i looked down the length of the wire to try and find any pinch marks or something to suggest foul play but nothing noticeable, when the wire is outside its on its on, its only with other wires when it goes outside through the same hole the fibre cable comes into the house, would you suggest me making another cable but just connect them without tacking it or feeding it through any walls? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1340024-need-help-for-network-ap-in-shed-from-house/#findComment-598002324 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prototype1864 Posted August 20, 2017 Author Share Posted August 20, 2017 Well the electrition said wire is fine he tested it but is that a diffrent test than the CAT5/6 tester? sorry for the noobish questions Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1340024-need-help-for-network-ap-in-shed-from-house/#findComment-598002344 Share on other sites More sharing options...
xendrome Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 Well a couple of things, You could have bad faceplates, did you try putting CAT5 ends on each end instead? I think you said you did. But yes there is a CAT5/6 tester that will show you not just if there is a cut in the wire but if each pin lines up on each end of the line once they are terminated. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1340024-need-help-for-network-ap-in-shed-from-house/#findComment-598002346 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+John Teacake MVC Posted August 20, 2017 MVC Share Posted August 20, 2017 You need something to check for CRC errors, For me it would be a Cisco switch where I could check the interface stats. Also what are your ping times/latency like on a device on end of that. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1340024-need-help-for-network-ap-in-shed-from-house/#findComment-598002404 Share on other sites More sharing options...
xendrome Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 (edited) 2 minutes ago, John Teacake said: You need something to check for CRC errors, For me it would be a Cisco switch where I could check the interface stats. Also what are your ping times/latency like on a device on end of that. A $20 cable tester that can give pass/straight through and pin assignment is going to be a lot easier/less expensive then a Cisco switch. This isn't a logical/interface error if he is not getting any connection, it's a physical. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1340024-need-help-for-network-ap-in-shed-from-house/#findComment-598002408 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+John Teacake MVC Posted August 20, 2017 MVC Share Posted August 20, 2017 Just now, xendrome said: A $20 cable tester that can give pass/straight through and pin assignment is going to be a lot easier/less expensive then a Cisco switch. This isn't a logical/interface error if he is not getting any connection, it's a physical. Oh sorry my bad, Thought he was getting rubbish speeds. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1340024-need-help-for-network-ap-in-shed-from-house/#findComment-598002410 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prototype1864 Posted August 20, 2017 Author Share Posted August 20, 2017 Just orderd a cat5/6 tester, yes i did crimp ends on it before i used faceplate, i used faceplates because i thourt i was crimping or wiring them wrong, but i got a feeling theres a break in the line somwhere Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1340024-need-help-for-network-ap-in-shed-from-house/#findComment-598002472 Share on other sites More sharing options...
helpifIcan Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 If you find a break you can use different pairs, they do not have to be the standard just in the correct locations. Pin 1,2,one pair Pin3,6 for the other pair. Make sure you are using the colored pairs and not splitting pairs. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1340024-need-help-for-network-ap-in-shed-from-house/#findComment-598002550 Share on other sites More sharing options...
xendrome Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 (edited) 15 minutes ago, helpifIcan said: If you find a break you can use different pairs, they do not have to be the standard just in the correct locations. Pin 1,2,one pair Pin3,6 for the other pair. Make sure you are using the colored pairs and not splitting pairs. Gigabit requires all 4 pairs per proper spec. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1340024-need-help-for-network-ap-in-shed-from-house/#findComment-598002558 Share on other sites More sharing options...
helpifIcan Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 Yep forgot about that obviously I don't have access to Gigabit. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1340024-need-help-for-network-ap-in-shed-from-house/#findComment-598003392 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sc302 Veteran Posted August 24, 2017 Veteran Share Posted August 24, 2017 the punch looks good from what I can see. can you plug in another device to see if it works? if it doesn't work, there is something wrong with the cable, you aren't plugged in at the other end, or a patch cable is bad between computer and jack or between router and jack. FWIW, continuity test does not guarantee a functional cable run or patch. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1340024-need-help-for-network-ap-in-shed-from-house/#findComment-598007426 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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