The Evil Overlord Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 3 hours ago, Hariljox12 said: I doubt my golf has an amp because is a stock comfort model with only 2 speakers ... If that IS the case, why go to the trouble of running 2 amps? Would the amp built in to your head unit not suffice? Most bass booted setups aren't all about sound purity, as often they're built for power, my old golf, you could hear me on my street, long before I actually turned onto my street. With a front speaker only set up, and subs in the boot, I feel I should recommend just using the stereo's own amp to power the door speakers, unless you have aftermarket speakers, some nice 6X9's in the parcel shelf would improve the music as well. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1353326-werid-popping-noise-when-changing-a-headunit/page/2/#findComment-598162246 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hariljox12 Posted January 16, 2018 Author Share Posted January 16, 2018 i bought some aftermarket speakers 16 cm because i blow the originals a year ago with sub... I dont know really which brand they are but they are 70w rms with seperate tweeters. They do a good job even at the highest volume with no distortion. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1353326-werid-popping-noise-when-changing-a-headunit/page/2/#findComment-598162252 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hariljox12 Posted January 16, 2018 Author Share Posted January 16, 2018 unfortunatly my radio doesn't have any options to turn off internal amp. But i think that this could be a ground problem, maybe i damaged the wire because there is so little room to work on and the cables are too short and i was doing a little rearragin and maybe exspose the connector idk.. i think i will try to use cigaret ligher ground or maybe make my own. But thanks guys again for the helps and the ideas Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1353326-werid-popping-noise-when-changing-a-headunit/page/2/#findComment-598162504 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Evil Overlord Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 2 hours ago, Hariljox12 said: unfortunatly my radio doesn't have any options to turn off internal amp. But i think that this could be a ground problem, maybe i damaged the wire because there is so little room to work on and the cables are too short and i was doing a little rearragin and maybe exspose the connector idk.. i think i will try to use cigaret ligher ground or maybe make my own. But thanks guys again for the helps and the ideas Personally, I'd recommend dropping the speaker amp for a moment, and try running the front speaker from the head unit, just to see how you find it, as for the subwoofer amp, assuming it's in the boot, with the sub, there are plenty of grounding points, any of the smaller bolt fittings near the wheel arch, or near the tail light cluster will serve well enough as a ground point. (Unless you're running high end speakers, and not the usual JBL, Kicker, or JLAudio, the in built amp in the stereo can suffice, it's just about adjusting the levels, then setting the sub) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1353326-werid-popping-noise-when-changing-a-headunit/page/2/#findComment-598162582 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hariljox12 Posted January 16, 2018 Author Share Posted January 16, 2018 I could try that yes but i already tried running speakers without ampd and they were really quiet.. Their brand is Impact and they were around 70€ here in EU with tweeters. With an amp there is really a big diffrence than with hu Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1353326-werid-popping-noise-when-changing-a-headunit/page/2/#findComment-598162714 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hariljox12 Posted January 16, 2018 Author Share Posted January 16, 2018 The sad thing is that i like sound from these radio so much more than the jvc already even if some songs dont play some frequancis... I never could get jvc to sound the way i wanted it and my friend has a blaupunkt thats why i bought it and it makes so much of a diffrence...I meand thats just my personal oppinion but damn Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1353326-werid-popping-noise-when-changing-a-headunit/page/2/#findComment-598162728 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Evil Overlord Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 There are other brands available, you might have a case regarding a refund if it indeed doesn't correctly play content your old JVC did as per one of your previous posts (assuming it's legally bought) Most of the major players will have single or double din units to suit your requirements. On a side note, I'm beginning to think having a y splitter might be one of your troubles, as you're effectively halving the line output. (hence why I suggested not using both amps just to see if that makes a difference) Does the amp that runs your speakers have a line out? As running an RCA from the speaker amp's line out to the subwoofer amp would be a whole lot cleaner, and simpler. Hariljox12 1 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1353326-werid-popping-noise-when-changing-a-headunit/page/2/#findComment-598162790 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sc302 Veteran Posted January 16, 2018 Veteran Share Posted January 16, 2018 Issues that pre-existed only get amplified. You said you have amps powering your speakers. I am guessing you arent using the factory wiring then, bypassing them all. If that is the case, and you are getting popping, there could be several issues. But if it happens when switching tracks and stations that is a head unit issue. That is internal to the radio, if it were a ground issue you would hear it randomly or always. If it were a power issue you would hear it when they powered up. A possibility that it could be is the remote wire. Try bypassing that line temporarily to see if it is the cause. You just need positive voltage to that recepticle, perhaps the radio is turning off the amps and back on when switching stations/tracks....sometimes a pop can be heard during and on off process. You probabaly want to turn your gains down if that is the case and see if it continues or turn them all the way down and see if it still pops. Hariljox12 1 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1353326-werid-popping-noise-when-changing-a-headunit/page/2/#findComment-598162840 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hariljox12 Posted January 16, 2018 Author Share Posted January 16, 2018 I'll check for those line out connectors... It makes me so mad cause its raining and i dont have enough time because of college yes im bypassing them all and popping happens randomly not every time.. i noticed that even some song start playing with a delay maybe a second or 2 into the song.. but not all of them and always the same ones...some times when i take the key out of the ignition they pop sometimes they dont...and i think maybe i heard some el. static today Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1353326-werid-popping-noise-when-changing-a-headunit/page/2/#findComment-598163058 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sc302 Veteran Posted January 16, 2018 Veteran Share Posted January 16, 2018 Could be faulty/break in remote power line to amps. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1353326-werid-popping-noise-when-changing-a-headunit/page/2/#findComment-598163062 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hariljox12 Posted January 16, 2018 Author Share Posted January 16, 2018 Maybe because thats the only wire that i changed because my previous radio had his own remote wire and now i used a car wire, it might be a possibility that i wired a wrong one... Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1353326-werid-popping-noise-when-changing-a-headunit/page/2/#findComment-598163070 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Evil Overlord Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 Always try to use the remote wire from the head unit if it's possible, wiring from the fusebox just fires up the amp even if the stereo isn't on. Wired incorrectly can result in a flat battery, or in worse case scenarios, a fire. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1353326-werid-popping-noise-when-changing-a-headunit/page/2/#findComment-598163092 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sc302 Veteran Posted January 16, 2018 Veteran Share Posted January 16, 2018 You def want to wire to a key on power on fuse. Headlight switch, 12v accessory/cigarette lighter, or even jump onto your head unit key on wire. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1353326-werid-popping-noise-when-changing-a-headunit/page/2/#findComment-598163266 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hariljox12 Posted January 17, 2018 Author Share Posted January 17, 2018 How do you mean run rca from line in to other amp? My speaker amp has line in.. what do you get from that and do you still need to connectem to the radio? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1353326-werid-popping-noise-when-changing-a-headunit/page/2/#findComment-598163934 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sc302 Veteran Posted January 17, 2018 Veteran Share Posted January 17, 2018 You can Jump the remote together, but no clue where you are going with the rca. You shouldn’t do a Y, the radio should have enough outputs for what you are trying to hook up. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1353326-werid-popping-noise-when-changing-a-headunit/page/2/#findComment-598164426 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astra.Xtreme Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 16 minutes ago, sc302 said: You can Jump the remote together, but no clue where you are going with the rca. You shouldn’t do a Y, the radio should have enough outputs for what you are trying to hook up. The radio he's using only has the two RCA inputs. Every install I've done has had separate inputs for the sub, but I have heard that you can use the Y adapter to feed them all together. Since he said the one of the Amps has a line-in, maybe he can daisy chain the amps together and then eliminate the Y adapter: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1353326-werid-popping-noise-when-changing-a-headunit/page/2/#findComment-598164478 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hariljox12 Posted January 17, 2018 Author Share Posted January 17, 2018 Today i tried almost everything...i connected the ground cable to cigaret lighter switch , turn one of the amps off than ghe other then i changed the rca cables of one another amp zhen i found out one of the red rca cable was baf but it was the same when i changed it.... i called the shop where i bought the radio , they gave me some the same tips as you guys but nothing works...they told me to come back to them and then we will try to experiment what mighr be the problem...i alonee will try to change back to jvc hu and if the popping is still there then i know i ruiened a wire or something.. connecring both amps that i didnt try but im getting an 7 band equalizer so there is going to be only one rca pair to the head unit instead of 2 Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1353326-werid-popping-noise-when-changing-a-headunit/page/2/#findComment-598164688 Share on other sites More sharing options...
satukoro Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 (edited) Cabling cabling cabling. If you're hearing popping sounds from these when changing tracks, it sounds like you have a bad ground somewhere and you're hearing some amplified EMI. You should ground your amp(s) to a nice solid grounding point such as a seat mount or screw through the chassis. Also I'd send that head unit back and get something with at least two sets of preamp outputs so that you don't have to use y-splitters. If you're looking at the only Clarion 7-band EQ on crutchfield, it's junk. I have one. Send it back. I strongly recommend getting a Pioneer head unit as even the cheap ones come with 3 sets of preamp outputs and a decent graphical eq. Edited January 17, 2018 by satukoro Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1353326-werid-popping-noise-when-changing-a-headunit/page/2/#findComment-598164706 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sc302 Veteran Posted January 17, 2018 Veteran Share Posted January 17, 2018 3 hours ago, Astra.Xtreme said: The radio he's using only has the two RCA inputs. Every install I've done has had separate inputs for the sub, but I have heard that you can use the Y adapter to feed them all together. Since he said the one of the Amps has a line-in, maybe he can daisy chain the amps together and then eliminate the Y adapter: The amps would have to have a line in and a line out to daisy chain them. You won't see line outs on most amps, only inputs. You have to hook up output (sound going out) to inputs (sound coming in from an outside source). You would need an output on the amp to relay the sound out to another input. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1353326-werid-popping-noise-when-changing-a-headunit/page/2/#findComment-598164752 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hariljox12 Posted January 17, 2018 Author Share Posted January 17, 2018 I have both amps to a screw of the rear seats and i brushed the paint off... i dont know where the bad wire could be i even changed the ground wire to cigaret lighter as i said... the memory wire is from the cigaret lighter also only power wire is original... taking it back might be a problem from all scratches thah radio cage made and the upper drawer i have in a car... Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1353326-werid-popping-noise-when-changing-a-headunit/page/2/#findComment-598164754 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mando Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 2 minutes ago, Hariljox12 said: I have both amps to a screw of the rear seats and i brushed the paint off... i dont know where the bad wire could be i even changed the ground wire to cigaret lighter as i said... the memory wire is from the cigaret lighter also only power wire is original... taking it back might be a problem from all scratches thah radio cage made and the upper drawer i have in a car... an earth to the back of the car seats isnt enough mate. Run an earth line to engine block\chassis or neg battery terminal worst case, are you using your car manufacturers ISO connector? if so buy the right Terminal adapter to fit your unit with that. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1353326-werid-popping-noise-when-changing-a-headunit/page/2/#findComment-598164762 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hariljox12 Posted January 17, 2018 Author Share Posted January 17, 2018 Well my both amps have line in and line out... the speaker amp has rca connectors for both ow them and my sub amp has input with rca connectors and output with some other connectors... you need some kind of adaptera Yeah but why does it only do this with this headunit... befor this hu grounding was ok .... its all the same i didnt change anything sc302 1 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1353326-werid-popping-noise-when-changing-a-headunit/page/2/#findComment-598164764 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sc302 Veteran Posted January 17, 2018 Veteran Share Posted January 17, 2018 you got this https://www.amazon.co.uk/Blaupunkt-Amsterdam-130-Radio-Tuner/dp/B00KXWY0GA I would return it. Immediately. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1353326-werid-popping-noise-when-changing-a-headunit/page/2/#findComment-598164778 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hariljox12 Posted January 17, 2018 Author Share Posted January 17, 2018 Also some tracks and always those when they start they make like some screaching noise and then they play normal... Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1353326-werid-popping-noise-when-changing-a-headunit/page/2/#findComment-598164800 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hariljox12 Posted January 17, 2018 Author Share Posted January 17, 2018 I'll see what i can do with this radio...it was either this one or pioneer.. my budget was arroubf 100€ or around 120$ and both radios had only one pair oc rca's unfortunatly... Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1353326-werid-popping-noise-when-changing-a-headunit/page/2/#findComment-598164804 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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