Draggendrop Veteran Posted December 9, 2018 Veteran Share Posted December 9, 2018 It's a statement of the type of society we have. Statistically for societal intelligence.....you know where I'm going... In the end...his worth to society will be appreciated...decades after his death...just the reality we are in. For those in the loop...it's a treat of a lifetime...I am really enjoying it. DocM 1 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1369670-tesla-vehiclegigafactorysolarcitysolar-roof-news-and-updates-megathread/page/5/#findComment-598395762 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draggendrop Veteran Posted December 10, 2018 Veteran Share Posted December 10, 2018 Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1369670-tesla-vehiclegigafactorysolarcitysolar-roof-news-and-updates-megathread/page/5/#findComment-598395930 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocM Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 (edited) Not good news for Whistleblowerville, https://www.cnbc.com/2018/12/11/tesla-seeks-167-million-in-damages-from-ex-employee-martin-tripp.html Quote Tesla is seeking more than $167 million in a lawsuit against former employee Martin Tripp, recent legal filings revealed. In the lawsuit, which was filed by the electric car maker in June, Tesla alleges that Tripp, a former process engineer, had illegally exported data and made false claims to reporters, among other things. Tripp had earlier claimed in a number of press interviews that Tesla engaged in poor manufacturing practices at its massive battery plant outside of Reno, Nevada, and that it may have used damaged battery modules in its Model 3 vehicles, posing a risk to drivers. > > The suit in Nevada is separate from a whistleblower complaint involving Tripp. In early July, Tripp filed a formal complaint with the Securities and Exchange Commission alleging that Tesla made "material omissions and misstatements" to investors relating to its flawed manufacturing practices and handling of scrap at the Gigafactory. Tripp was represented by Meissner Associates in the whistleblower matter earlier, but is now representing himself, attorney Stuart Meissner told CNBC. Meissner declined to comment further. Tripp also declined requests for comment. Expand Edited December 12, 2018 by DocM Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1369670-tesla-vehiclegigafactorysolarcitysolar-roof-news-and-updates-megathread/page/5/#findComment-598396659 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+FloatingFatMan Subscriber¹ Posted December 12, 2018 Subscriber¹ Share Posted December 12, 2018 On 09/12/2018 at 04:36, Unobscured Vision said: ... ... Who could hate this guy? Well, except for the short-sellers and shills who think he's a lunatic. He's my kind of lunatic. Expand Hate? Far from it, but he's also far from a perfect individual. That whole thing over those missing kids in the caves and calling the lead dive team guy a pedophile was WAAAAAY out of order... bguy_1986, BetaguyGZT and Jim K 3 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1369670-tesla-vehiclegigafactorysolarcitysolar-roof-news-and-updates-megathread/page/5/#findComment-598396665 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BetaguyGZT Posted December 12, 2018 Author Share Posted December 12, 2018 I agree, that was bad form. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1369670-tesla-vehiclegigafactorysolarcitysolar-roof-news-and-updates-megathread/page/5/#findComment-598396668 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draggendrop Veteran Posted December 14, 2018 Veteran Share Posted December 14, 2018 Usually I will stay out of this...but... Elon was wrong to tag someone...but at the same time...this was not the lead dive team member. This person did the initial mapping of the cave and was not present during the rescue. That persons remarks to Elon were goading and we know were it went. Overall...the capsule was verified as being able to make it through the passages. The excellent job by the pumps, which failed shortly after the last bunch was out, was what kept it as a handy backup. The Thai Navy now has the units for search and rescue. This was a chapter which portrayed Elon the worse for wear when both individuals needed a "time out". That is all I will say on the "sad" situation. DocM 1 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1369670-tesla-vehiclegigafactorysolarcitysolar-roof-news-and-updates-megathread/page/5/#findComment-598397473 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocM Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 BetaguyGZT 1 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1369670-tesla-vehiclegigafactorysolarcitysolar-roof-news-and-updates-megathread/page/5/#findComment-598397870 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocM Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 (edited) Wow.... California's PG&E utility will be using the new container-size Tesla MegaPack storage system. 2,673 kWh each. Electrek... Quote Teslas new Megapack to debut at giant energy storage project in California Electrek has learned some exclusive information about Teslas Megapack, the companys upcoming new stationary energy storage product. The big new battery system is going to debut at Teslas giant 1.2 GWh energy storage project with PG&E in California. > According to the document, a Tesla Megapack consists of long 23′-5″ (7.14m) x 5′-3″ (1.60m) battery system, which the company mostly installs back to back with another unit: > According to Teslas plan, they will deploy 449 Megapacks at the site: > Tesla is listing the project as having a total capacity of 1,200 MWh, which would mean that each Megapack has a capacity of 2,673 kWh. Thats more than 12 times the capacity of Powerpack 2 in a package that could potentially fit about 8 Powerpacks. > PG&E says that they aim to bring the energy project online by the end of 2020. > Expand BetaguyGZT 1 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1369670-tesla-vehiclegigafactorysolarcitysolar-roof-news-and-updates-megathread/page/5/#findComment-598398150 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BetaguyGZT Posted December 17, 2018 Author Share Posted December 17, 2018 These need to be everywhere, imo. It's a fantastic innovation that's already proven its' reliability and worth in Australia. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1369670-tesla-vehiclegigafactorysolarcitysolar-roof-news-and-updates-megathread/page/5/#findComment-598398234 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bguy_1986 Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 What are the environmental effects of making these batteries and disposing of them when they get old? I've read some stuff online, but you can never be sure that what you read is correct or not. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1369670-tesla-vehiclegigafactorysolarcitysolar-roof-news-and-updates-megathread/page/5/#findComment-598398259 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocM Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 (edited) On 17/12/2018 at 11:47, bguy_1986 said: What are the environmental effects of making these batteries and disposing of them when they get old? I've read some stuff online, but you can never be sure that what you read is correct or not. Expand Tesla recycles about everything but the lithium to raw materials or reuse (battery pack cases etc), and they're working on the lithium. Its waste currently goes into concrete etc. Recycling has been done using outside companies, but AIUI they'll close the cycle by doing it all in-house. BetaguyGZT 1 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1369670-tesla-vehiclegigafactorysolarcitysolar-roof-news-and-updates-megathread/page/5/#findComment-598398435 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocM Posted December 21, 2018 Share Posted December 21, 2018 Ohio Governor John Kasich would like Tesla to take over GM's closing Lordstown Assembly plant. BetaguyGZT 1 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1369670-tesla-vehiclegigafactorysolarcitysolar-roof-news-and-updates-megathread/page/5/#findComment-598400277 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beittil Posted December 21, 2018 Share Posted December 21, 2018 I guess assembly line work will be assembly line work, but it would still be a culture shock for such seasoned auto workers if they were to end up in a Tesla factory bguy_1986 1 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1369670-tesla-vehiclegigafactorysolarcitysolar-roof-news-and-updates-megathread/page/5/#findComment-598400333 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocM Posted December 21, 2018 Share Posted December 21, 2018 On 21/12/2018 at 22:04, Beittil said: I guess assembly line work will be assembly line work, but it would still be a culture shock for such seasoned auto workers if they were to end up in a Tesla factory Expand Starting with the number of assembly stations. According to the UK analyst Evercore ISI Model 3 only has 43 stations, which is about 3-4 times fewer than a "normal" line. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1369670-tesla-vehiclegigafactorysolarcitysolar-roof-news-and-updates-megathread/page/5/#findComment-598400348 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocM Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 (edited) 👍👍 Edited January 7, 2019 by DocM BetaguyGZT 1 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1369670-tesla-vehiclegigafactorysolarcitysolar-roof-news-and-updates-megathread/page/5/#findComment-598404770 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocM Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 BetaguyGZT and bguy_1986 2 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1369670-tesla-vehiclegigafactorysolarcitysolar-roof-news-and-updates-megathread/page/5/#findComment-598404773 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocM Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 (edited) Gigafactory 3's groundbreaking was just a few days ago 😵 The site is 865,000 square meters. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1369670-tesla-vehiclegigafactorysolarcitysolar-roof-news-and-updates-megathread/page/5/#findComment-598408970 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BetaguyGZT Posted January 17, 2019 Author Share Posted January 17, 2019 I have some concerns, myself. Likely unfounded. I'm gonna take the "wait and see" position on the whole "Tesla in China" thing. bguy_1986 1 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1369670-tesla-vehiclegigafactorysolarcitysolar-roof-news-and-updates-megathread/page/5/#findComment-598409014 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocM Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 We'll see how wrong I am at 2:00 PM PT / 5:00 PM ET tomorrow 😁 BetaguyGZT 1 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1369670-tesla-vehiclegigafactorysolarcitysolar-roof-news-and-updates-megathread/page/5/#findComment-598422708 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BetaguyGZT Posted March 1, 2019 Author Share Posted March 1, 2019 $35,000 Teslas ... The U.S. automakers can't compete with that. They'll need to either streamline/improve manufacturing processes to get costs down or they're gonna close up plants. I can't support people losing their jobs. And we already know which one the muckety mucks will go with. Rippleman 1 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1369670-tesla-vehiclegigafactorysolarcitysolar-roof-news-and-updates-megathread/page/5/#findComment-598422727 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BetaguyGZT Posted March 1, 2019 Author Share Posted March 1, 2019 And now the news that Tesla will close most physical stores and primarily sell them online. /sigh ... I really, really wanted Tesla Dealerships in Michigan. Dammit. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1369670-tesla-vehiclegigafactorysolarcitysolar-roof-news-and-updates-megathread/page/5/#findComment-598423020 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocM Posted March 2, 2019 Share Posted March 2, 2019 (edited) Ford, GM and Hyundai are starting online sales too, so it looks like the Amazon Effect is spreading. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1369670-tesla-vehiclegigafactorysolarcitysolar-roof-news-and-updates-megathread/page/5/#findComment-598423051 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PGHammer Posted March 2, 2019 Share Posted March 2, 2019 On 07/08/2018 at 21:36, Unobscured Vision said: Yup. Elon's cash position is astounding right now. At any given time he could buy Bigelow Aerospace and ULA outright -- including patents and IP -- and he'd still be totally fine cash-wise. He could buy his way onto the Board of Directors for Lockheed-Martin and Boeing at any time he wished simply because he CAN. Hostile takeover, baby. Know why he doesn't? Because he chooses NOT to. Elon's not "that guy". He does what he does how he does it because he's smart. Impossibly smart. He's got ideas, damn good ones, and he wants to make good on those ideas for the benefit of everyone else and to satisfy his own intellectual curiosity. So yeah. Elon's got the talent and the tools and the money to make it happen. And better yet he will absolutely troll the naysayers and the short-sellers that are messing with his stuff. That's why he's gonna do this. And those of us in the so-called "Cult of Elon" will cheer him on in his endeavours, helping any way we can. Expand True - Tony Stark he isn't. (*Howard* Stark he isn't - Howard Stark WOULD do it - who was the CEO that drove the merger between Lockheed and Martin Marietta - the company that is the model for Stark Industries in the MCU?) He's not Nick Fury, either - Fury was the one that drove the original SI going private in the Marvel COMICS Universe. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1369670-tesla-vehiclegigafactorysolarcitysolar-roof-news-and-updates-megathread/page/5/#findComment-598423053 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rippleman Posted March 2, 2019 Share Posted March 2, 2019 (edited) On 01/03/2019 at 01:31, Unobscured Vision said: $35,000 Teslas ... The U.S. automakers can't compete with that. They'll need to either streamline/improve manufacturing processes to get costs down or they're gonna close up plants. I can't support people losing their jobs. And we already know which one the muckety mucks will go with. Expand The mother of all invention is necessity. It's a "must change now" thing for the big 3 and other imports. I really hope they come out with some real competition now. I am looking forward to Toyota's reply to the new electric market. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1369670-tesla-vehiclegigafactorysolarcitysolar-roof-news-and-updates-megathread/page/5/#findComment-598423055 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PGHammer Posted March 2, 2019 Share Posted March 2, 2019 On 21/12/2018 at 19:58, DocM said: Ohio Governor John Kasich would like Tesla to take over GM's closing Lordstown Assembly plant. Expand If Tesla ever does SUVs, GM Baltimore is also a possibility - though it would certainly sting (for GM, that is) to see Musk swallow the original home of #TeamSuburban (GM Baltimore is also scheduled to shutter, along with Lordstown). Like Lordstown, GM Baltimore was developed to produce specific vehicles (in Baltimore's case, the Chevrolet/GMC Suburban). Suburbans have been a fixture in Presidential motorcades since the vehicle first came off the production line - and not merely in USSS trim - the USAF (and specifically the 89th AIrlift Wing and its two most famous subsidiaries, 1st Helicopter and 2nd Airlift - which transports the Vice-President) - have THEIR lot of Suburbans as well; I'm wondering if GM Baltimore will actually be ALLOWED to shutter for that reason alone. (I still would not mind purchasing one of the ex-USSS or USAF Suburbans; either would be a major example of a well-kept *cream puff* Suburban. As to why I said *cream puff*, crack maintainers (in both cases, the best mechanics the USAF or DHS has to offer; they COMPETE to end up there) and low mileage for their usage. Therefore *cream puff*. That means a trip to Baltimore, though (regional GSA Sales offices - NOT DC itself, oddly enough). Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1369670-tesla-vehiclegigafactorysolarcitysolar-roof-news-and-updates-megathread/page/5/#findComment-598423056 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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