Rippleman Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 Honestly, this may get me banned but I couldn't care at this point. You can clearly tell on this board who is black from their consistent whining and hatred of everything white. The mods are joke to allow such a hateful racist post. News to you all... it's OK to be white. YOU may not think so, but it really is. +Warwagon, trag3dy, DConnell and 4 others 2 2 3 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DConnell Member Posted August 10, 2018 Member Share Posted August 10, 2018 10 minutes ago, Mockingbird said: Trump administration moves to block victims of gang violence and domestic abuse from claiming asylum http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-pol-sessions-asylum-20180611-story.html Well, the reasoning presented is sound. For domestic abuse there are usually resources local to the nation of the asylum seeker. Honestly, your example seemed a bit odd to me. As the child of an abusive husband, I can certainly sympathize, but the the US isn't obligated to let anyone in. psmoked and Nogib 2 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DConnell Member Posted August 10, 2018 Member Share Posted August 10, 2018 6 minutes ago, DConnell said: Well, the reasoning presented is sound. For domestic abuse there are usually resources local to the nation of the asylum seeker. Honestly, your example seemed a bit odd to me. As the child of an abusive husband, I can certainly sympathize, but the the US isn't obligated to let anyone in. @primortal do you seriously find the fact that my father was abusive amusing? I'm sure my mother would love to have a talk with you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+primortal Subscriber² Posted August 10, 2018 Subscriber² Share Posted August 10, 2018 Just now, DConnell said: @primortal do you seriously find the fact that my father was abusive amusing? I'm sure my mother would love to have a talk with you. No offense but you constantly my posts as funny. Shoe fits, wear it. Side note my step-father was VERY abusive to my mother as well. Nogib and SecretAgentMan 1 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DConnell Member Posted August 10, 2018 Member Share Posted August 10, 2018 2 minutes ago, primortal said: No offense but you constantly my posts as funny. Shoe fits, wear it. Side note my step-father was VERY abusive to my mother as well. When it's warranted. I don't if you make a good point, even if I don't agree with it. This is just being a jerk, man. If your father was abusive than you should be able to relate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mockingbird Posted August 10, 2018 Author Share Posted August 10, 2018 (edited) 13 minutes ago, DConnell said: Well, the reasoning presented is sound. For domestic abuse there are usually resources local to the nation of the asylum seeker. Honestly, your example seemed a bit odd to me. As the child of an abusive husband, I can certainly sympathize, but the the US isn't obligated to let anyone in. You keep moving the goalposts. You blame the parents for endangering their kids' life. After I point out that they are running away from gang violence and trying to save their kids... you blame them for not seeking asylum right away. After I point out that the Trump administration ordered immigration judges to deny asylum to those suffering from gang violence... you said that the US shouldn't accept them anyway SecretAgentMan and Nogib 1 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wakjak Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 1 hour ago, DConnell said: You're claiming that all the illegal immigrants sneaking across the border are seeking asylum No. 1 hour ago, DConnell said: I'm reasonably sure if they presented themselves as asylum seekers their kids wouldn't be taken away, even if they weren't granted asylum. Bull**** because that is EXACTLY what's been happening with Jeff Sessions' no tolerance policy. Have you been asleep since May? No wonder you have the views you do. You don't actually read news that disagrees with your views. It is 100% clear now. You don't want facts. You want your agenda, in your face, all the time. Gotcha. No need to reply. We won't agree on anything. Nogib, DConnell, Mockingbird and 2 others 3 2 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DConnell Member Posted August 10, 2018 Member Share Posted August 10, 2018 1 minute ago, wakjak said: We won't agree on anything. Have we ever? ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wakjak Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 (edited) 19 minutes ago, Rippleman said: You can clearly tell on this board who is black from their consistent whining and hatred of everything white This is possibly the most obtuse thing ever posted on this website. Ever. 19 minutes ago, Rippleman said: it's OK to be white. YOU may not think so, but it really is. Who said otherwise? SecretAgentMan 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+primortal Subscriber² Posted August 10, 2018 Subscriber² Share Posted August 10, 2018 36 minutes ago, DConnell said: When it's warranted. I don't if you make a good point, even if I don't agree with it. This is just being a jerk, man. If your father was abusive than you should be able to relate. 1 If you don't like my points talk it out instead of drive-by tagging it as HaHa. This goes for you to @Nogib Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DConnell Member Posted August 10, 2018 Member Share Posted August 10, 2018 Just now, primortal said: If you don't like my points talk it out instead of drive-by tagging it as HaHa. Likewise. Nogib 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mockingbird Posted August 10, 2018 Author Share Posted August 10, 2018 20 minutes ago, Rippleman said: Honestly, this may get me banned but I couldn't care at this point. You can clearly tell on this board who is black from their consistent whining and hatred of everything white. The mods are joke to allow such a hateful racist post. News to you all... it's OK to be white. YOU may not think so, but it really is. LOL I am not black nor do I hate everything about being white. +primortal and SecretAgentMan 2 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DConnell Member Posted August 10, 2018 Member Share Posted August 10, 2018 5 minutes ago, Mockingbird said: After I point out that the Trump administration ordered immigration judges to deny asylum to those suffering from gang violence... you said that the US shouldn't accept them anyway Where? I said the US wasn't obligated to take them in, not it shouldn't. Not the same thing. psmoked 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wakjak Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 1 hour ago, trag3dy said: Then you haven't been paying very much attention. Still waiting on who is advocating for Open Borders. As I am still waiting for the proof for need of Voter ID. SecretAgentMan and Randy B 2 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mockingbird Posted August 10, 2018 Author Share Posted August 10, 2018 1 minute ago, DConnell said: Where? I said the US wasn't obligated to take them in, not it shouldn't. Not the same thing. Why do you keep shifting the goalposts? I thought you said that the parents are irresponsible for endangering their children's lives and blame them for not claiming asylum. SecretAgentMan and Nogib 1 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rippleman Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 6 minutes ago, Mockingbird said: LOL I am not black nor do I hate everything about being white. I reject your claim. psmoked and DConnell 2 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DConnell Member Posted August 10, 2018 Member Share Posted August 10, 2018 Just now, Mockingbird said: Why do you keep shifting the goalposts? I thought you said that the parents are irresponsible for endangering their children's lives and blame them for not claiming asylum. They are. Bringing your child along when breaking the law is usually considered child endangerment. Granted in the case you present it may be justified, but as Wakjak so helpfully pointed out, not every case of illegal immigration is asylum seeking. Why are YOU shifting the goalposts? And why are you acting as if this case and ones like it justify all illegal immigration? SecretAgentMan, psmoked and Nogib 2 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mockingbird Posted August 10, 2018 Author Share Posted August 10, 2018 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Rippleman said: I reject your claim. cool story bro Edited August 10, 2018 by Mockingbird Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mockingbird Posted August 10, 2018 Author Share Posted August 10, 2018 (edited) 4 minutes ago, DConnell said: They are. Bringing your child along when breaking the law is usually considered child endangerment. Granted in the case you present it may be justified, but as Wakjak so helpfully pointed out, not every case of illegal immigration is asylum seeking. Why are YOU shifting the goalposts? And why are you acting as if this case and ones like it justify all illegal immigration? It's not child endangerment to try to save your child from gang violence and certain death. SecretAgentMan, Randy B and Nogib 2 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DConnell Member Posted August 10, 2018 Member Share Posted August 10, 2018 2 minutes ago, Mockingbird said: It's not child endangerment to try to save your child from gang violence and certain death. But it is child endangerment to take them along when doing something against the law, such as crossing the border illegally. While it may be a justified risk in the case you present, it is still putting the kid in danger. Nogib, psmoked and SecretAgentMan 2 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+primortal Subscriber² Posted August 10, 2018 Subscriber² Share Posted August 10, 2018 14 minutes ago, DConnell said: Where? I said the US wasn't obligated to take them in, not it shouldn't. Not the same thing. Yes the US is obligated to takin asylum seeker, https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/8/1158 Also, https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/6/5/17428640/border-families-asylum-illegal Nogib, DConnell and SecretAgentMan 2 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mockingbird Posted August 10, 2018 Author Share Posted August 10, 2018 Just now, DConnell said: But it is child endangerment to take them along when doing something against the law, such as crossing the border illegally. Wrong. Taking children away from gang violence in hope of them being in a safer place is NOT child endangerment SecretAgentMan 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DConnell Member Posted August 10, 2018 Member Share Posted August 10, 2018 1 minute ago, primortal said: Yes the US is obligated to takin asylum seeker, https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/8/1158 Also, https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/6/5/17428640/border-families-asylum-illegal Fair enough. I stand corrected. +primortal 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trag3dy Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 2 hours ago, theyarecomingforyou said: You misunderstand. Socialism is about rewarding the worker class for their economic output rather than syphoning value to the wealth class. Executives and shareholders don't deserve to be paid thousands of times more than the workers producing value for a company. Capitalism deprives workers of the recognition for their hard work. McDonald's would have ZERO value without workers in their restaurants preparing food, serving customers and cleaning their stores, yet those doing the work are deprived of the value of their economic output so that executives can live in obscene opulence. If you think capitalism rewards hard work then you are grossly mistaken. And here I thought the only thing socialism has achieved is getting hundreds of millions of people killed. That's my bad. You're right, my misunderstanding. psmoked, Nogib, theyarecomingforyou and 2 others 2 1 2 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theyarecomingforyou Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 21 minutes ago, trag3dy said: And here I thought the only thing socialism has achieved is getting hundreds of millions of people killed. That's my bad. You're right, my misunderstanding. You say that as if capitalism hasn't killed more people. Learn your history. wakjak, +Raze, Nogib and 2 others 4 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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