Ultra Frosty Posted February 7, 2004 Share Posted February 7, 2004 If you want a fast, secure email client, than PocoMail is the best thing in the world. I like the GUI the best, but this thing is way better than Outlook 2003. http://www.pocomail.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IlliniPi Posted February 7, 2004 Share Posted February 7, 2004 In my opinion, PocoMail sucks. The interface is way too cluttered with buttons filling up the majority of the screen. I don't need a box of emoticons just for email. Outlook Express does what I want it to - download, read, and send emails. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bangbang023 Veteran Posted February 7, 2004 Veteran Share Posted February 7, 2004 you obviously havent used outlook 2003 if you think pocomail beats it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redestium Posted February 7, 2004 Share Posted February 7, 2004 Ughh, fine you like it. Why do you feel the need to make an announcement? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasandoro Posted February 7, 2004 Share Posted February 7, 2004 If it worked with Exchange, I'd switch in a second. :) --Kas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MxxCon Posted February 7, 2004 Share Posted February 7, 2004 Outlook Express does what I want it to - download, read, and send emails. don't forget it's absolutly awesome ability to get infected and spread viruses/worms/trojans :x Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IlliniPi Posted February 7, 2004 Share Posted February 7, 2004 don't forget it's absolutly awesome ability to get infected and spread viruses/worms/trojans :x If you have the option selected to automatically download the files. Fortunately for me, I know what I'm doing, and I choose what I download. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nazgul Posted February 7, 2004 Share Posted February 7, 2004 Outlook 2003 for me as well, although I'm heavily considering switching to Mozilla Thunderbird... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MxxCon Posted February 7, 2004 Share Posted February 7, 2004 If you have the option selected to automatically download the files. Fortunately for me, I know what I'm doing, and I choose what I download. unfortunatly for you outlook gets infected JUST FROM RECEIVING AN EMAIL, not opening or downloading attachments or even reading email. just the fact that you connect to your email server and download a message is enough for you to be infected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redestium Posted February 7, 2004 Share Posted February 7, 2004 unfortunatly for you outlook gets infected JUST FROM RECEIVING AN EMAIL, not opening or downloading attachments or even reading email. just the fact that you connect to your email server and download a message is enough for you to be infected. HTML email that is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pagal Posted February 7, 2004 Share Posted February 7, 2004 MxxCon: do you have any proof to back it up or is it one of your wise opinions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bangbang023 Veteran Posted February 7, 2004 Veteran Share Posted February 7, 2004 unfortunatly for you outlook gets infected JUST FROM RECEIVING AN EMAIL, not opening or downloading attachments or even reading email. just the fact that you connect to your email server and download a message is enough for you to be infected. turning off the preview pane is enough for most viruses Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redestium Posted February 7, 2004 Share Posted February 7, 2004 Just a little something I came across. http://www.pcmag.com/category2/0,4148,4810,00.asp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluebsh Posted February 7, 2004 Share Posted February 7, 2004 unfortunatly for you outlook gets infected JUST FROM RECEIVING AN EMAIL, not opening or downloading attachments or even reading email. just the fact that you connect to your email server and download a message is enough for you to be infected. how about no, stop makeing crap up... OE does not execute anything in an email automaticly on download, you have to manually open or click on the email when the preview plain is turned on to have ANYTHING in OE execute by itself... emails dont just run as they download... that would be idiotic... and OE DOES NOT DO THAT.. just another person that has no idea of what they are talking about and trying to spread rumors about a MS product agian... anyways on this email app.. my personal opinion thats a horrible rip of a UI there... they tried to make it look like Outlook 2003 but did so horribly and it just looks hidious... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pagal Posted February 7, 2004 Share Posted February 7, 2004 yup, the UI is a fugly version of OE2003... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freakyfriday Posted February 7, 2004 Share Posted February 7, 2004 unfortunatly for you outlook gets infected JUST FROM RECEIVING AN EMAIL, not opening or downloading attachments or even reading email. just the fact that you connect to your email server and download a message is enough for you to be infected. i never get a virus in my e-mail... my ISP uses a spam and virus filter :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MxxCon Posted February 7, 2004 Share Posted February 7, 2004 how about no, stop makeing crap up...OE does not execute anything in an email automaticly on download, you have to manually open or click on the email when the preview plain is turned on to have ANYTHING in OE execute by itself... emails dont just run as they download... that would be idiotic... and OE DOES NOT DO THAT.. just another person that has no idea of what they are talking about and trying to spread rumors about a MS product agian... how about you shut the **** up and go educate your ass. for starters get your ass to read bulletin MS01-020 or how about you go educate your ass on Popup Object Exploit works i can't seem to locate that exact virus on sarc.com it was going around recently. it exploited another hole in outlook/outlookexpress executing itself upon receiving email, not opening attachments or reading email. and w/ ms's ****** up once-a-month patches that hole is still open. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Warwagon MVC Posted February 7, 2004 MVC Share Posted February 7, 2004 Good ole MxxCon always in a good mood lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IlliniPi Posted February 8, 2004 Share Posted February 8, 2004 I swear, he gets angry about the dumbest things. STFU N00B, YOU'RE GONNA GET VIRUSES!! BLAAH!!! I KNOW ALL!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morganpugh84 Posted February 8, 2004 Share Posted February 8, 2004 In my opinion, PocoMail sucks. The interface is way too cluttered with buttons filling up the majority of the screen. I don't need a box of emoticons just for email. Outlook Express does what I want it to - download, read, and send emails. I agree also I spent ages looking for a way to change the ports used for POP and SMTP but they are nowhere :( such a simple thing as well. Crappy program IMO The Bat! and Outlook 2003 are better, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morganpugh84 Posted February 8, 2004 Share Posted February 8, 2004 I agree with MxxCon about Outlook and Outlook Express executing code without having to read it, etc. Technically isn't it a bug in IE though with HTML email and because Outlook uses the IE engine it executes the virus. I might be wrong but I think that is how it works. Can't remember TBH. MxxCon gets vexed pretty quickly however I can understand why when people post **** when they obviously have no idea what they are talking about. MxxCon is all good in my book tho (Y) go get them n00b's :yes: Sometimes the MxxCon way is the only way :shifty: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galley Posted February 9, 2004 Share Posted February 9, 2004 PocoMail WAS better than Outlook before the 2003 version came out. I still use PocoMail on my USB flash drive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluebsh Posted February 9, 2004 Share Posted February 9, 2004 Because HTML e-mails are simply web pages, IE can render them andopen binary attachments in a way that is appropriate to their MIME types. However, a flaw exists in the type of processing that is specified for certain unusual MIME types. If an attacker created an HTML e-mail containing an executable attachment, then modified the MIME header information to specify that the attachment was one of the unusual MIME types that IE handles incorrectly, IE would launch the attachment automatically when it rendered the e-mail. An attacker could use this vulnerability in either of two scenarios. She could host an affected HTML e-mail on a web site and try to persuade another user to visit it, at which point script on a web page could open the mail and initiate the executable. Alternatively, she could send the HTML mail directly to the user. In either case, the executable attachment, if it ran, would be limited only by user's permissions on the system. that in no way says an email will execute if downloaded... OE does not process emails as they are downloaded in the way it would need to have that happen.. the site it's self even goes to say that you would have to manually open or do something to cause the execution of the exploit.. such as open it.. when OE processes headers to put them into the dbx file it uses to store messages it reads the to line, from, subject, sent, and the list of attachments, it does not actually process anything past that or process the attachment list.... the keyword in that list is RENDER, OE does not render emails until they are opened. it has a preprocessor for putting them into a dbx database, but does not use MSHTML.DLL for that at all... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluebsh Posted February 9, 2004 Share Posted February 9, 2004 mxxcon every single thing I've looked up to try to back up your claim that it runs on download has all said that you have to manually open the email to start the HTML rendering process, every single one has stated it's caused by the HTML rendering, of which is not used at all to retrieve MIME headers from an email attachment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stingray Posted February 9, 2004 Share Posted February 9, 2004 Disabling the preview pane and being careful with what attachments you open is enough, contrary to what some people would like others to believe. A good, updated antivirus is nowadays also essential. Pocomail may be a good e-mail client, but it sure is ugly and cluttered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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