adrynalyne Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Brandon H said: good to know how much difference is there in potential speeds between SATA3 and PCIE? I've heard PCIE drives can be a bit faster but I've never looked into how much. On average, 4 to 5 times faster, when looking at sequential transfer speeds. Could also raid 0 sata3 SSDs and not bottleneck the 10Gb connection. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1393041-home-10gb-switch/page/2/#findComment-598529032 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon H Supervisor Posted March 12, 2020 Supervisor Share Posted March 12, 2020 Just now, adrynalyne said: On average, 4 to 5 times faster, when looking at sequential transfer speeds. dang, didn't realize it was that substantial of a difference. I'll keep that in mind if I ever decide to build my own NAS server. I've thought about it a few times just don't have the money to justify doing it right now. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1393041-home-10gb-switch/page/2/#findComment-598529033 Share on other sites More sharing options...
adrynalyne Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 Just now, Brandon H said: dang, didn't realize it was that substantial of a difference. I'll keep that in mind if I ever decide to build my own NAS server. I've thought about it a few times just don't have the money to justify doing it right now. I mean, there is also the question as to whether you can notice the difference too. I "feel" the difference going from Sata3 HDD to Sata3 SSD. I slightly notice the difference when going from Sata 3 SSD to NVME. UNLESS its data transfer with a big file. Then I notice a HUGE difference. Brandon H 1 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1393041-home-10gb-switch/page/2/#findComment-598529035 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon H Supervisor Posted March 12, 2020 Supervisor Share Posted March 12, 2020 1 minute ago, adrynalyne said: I mean, there is also the question as to whether you can notice the difference too. I "feel" the difference going from Sata3 HDD to Sata3 SSD. I slightly notice the difference when going from Sata 3 SSD to NVME. UNLESS its data transfer with a big file. Then I notice a HUGE difference. very true Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1393041-home-10gb-switch/page/2/#findComment-598529036 Share on other sites More sharing options...
forster Posted March 12, 2020 Author Share Posted March 12, 2020 I have NVME in my main PC, but unfortunately only Iron Wolf drives as mass storage on my Freenas server - 5900rpm SATA3 Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1393041-home-10gb-switch/page/2/#findComment-598529047 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon H Supervisor Posted March 12, 2020 Supervisor Share Posted March 12, 2020 2 minutes ago, forster said: I have NVME in my main PC, but unfortunately only Iron Wolf drives as mass storage on my Freenas server - 5900rpm SATA3 just out of personal curiosity, what kind of CPU and how much RAM do you have on your FreeNAS build? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1393041-home-10gb-switch/page/2/#findComment-598529052 Share on other sites More sharing options...
forster Posted March 12, 2020 Author Share Posted March 12, 2020 4 minutes ago, Brandon H said: just out of personal curiosity, what kind of CPU and how much RAM do you have on your FreeNAS build? It's my old gaming PC, repurposed - I have this really bad habit of having an answer for a question that I really dont need to ask and spending money that's ultimately wasted haha so thats why I didnt pull the trigger. As of right now I have a dedicated WD Pro NAS, but its just on a 1 gig connection. My Freenas build has a 4770k and 16gb DDR3 - I appreciate 10gb is overkill, but my reasoning would be that whatever I would buy network wise would be 'scaled up' as the rest of my gear dies/is replaced with better spec items. I'm probably going to replace the Freenas build with a Ryzen based DDR4 system, I'm not going threadripper, but eventually I'd like a rack with dedicated blades. Its just that I'm sharing living space at the moment and I dont have the autonomy to replace everything all in one go. I tend to operate in drips and drabs. Brandon H 1 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1393041-home-10gb-switch/page/2/#findComment-598529055 Share on other sites More sharing options...
forster Posted March 15, 2020 Author Share Posted March 15, 2020 Just as an update, I didnt realise the difference between used and new hardware - Ive picked up two of these, and one of these cables so hopefully by the end of the week Ill have everything installed and running to at least the speed of the drives in the machines. Will feed back with speeds and opinions adrynalyne 1 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1393041-home-10gb-switch/page/2/#findComment-598529859 Share on other sites More sharing options...
grunger106 Posted March 15, 2020 Share Posted March 15, 2020 On 3/12/2020 at 2:59 PM, forster said: It's my old gaming PC, repurposed - I have this really bad habit of having an answer for a question that I really dont need to ask and spending money that's ultimately wasted haha so thats why I didnt pull the trigger. As of right now I have a dedicated WD Pro NAS, but its just on a 1 gig connection. My Freenas build has a 4770k and 16gb DDR3 - I appreciate 10gb is overkill, but my reasoning would be that whatever I would buy network wise would be 'scaled up' as the rest of my gear dies/is replaced with better spec items. I'm probably going to replace the Freenas build with a Ryzen based DDR4 system, I'm not going threadripper, but eventually I'd like a rack with dedicated blades. Its just that I'm sharing living space at the moment and I dont have the autonomy to replace everything all in one go. I tend to operate in drips and drabs. I wouldn't recommend blades, if you actually mean blades - an affordable used blade chassis and a bunch of real blades will drink power. If you simply mean 1 or 2U servers then go for it, that is much more via-able (Owner of a 1xR230, 2xDL360G8, and 1x R710 here) Regarding speeds down to your NAS it would depend on what you were doing with it to see a real-world benefit to 10Gbe, if you're just serving files then I doubt you'd see much actual performance increase unless there was a very specific use case. However if you're using your NAS to store VHDs which are connected to ESXI or Hyper-V via iSCSI or NFS then you certainly would see a gain (assuming the storage was fast enough to saturate >1Gb/s) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1393041-home-10gb-switch/page/2/#findComment-598529863 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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